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2007-04-21 Iraq
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Posted by Steve White 2007-04-21 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11125 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Found it here and you don't have to subscribe to anything! :-)
Posted by gorb 2007-04-21 01:39||   2007-04-21 01:39|| Front Page Top

#2 Yay! Gorb saves the Doc from slings and arrows.
Posted by Shipman">Shipman  2007-04-21 01:40||   2007-04-21 01:40|| Front Page Top

#3 Here's the gist of the article....

“Yep,” said one of the colonels, “that’s one dead son of a bitch.”
Posted by Shipman">Shipman  2007-04-21 01:43||   2007-04-21 01:43|| Front Page Top

#4 Nice work, 'gators, despite having both hands and one foot tied behind your backs! Hooah!
Posted by Mac 2007-04-21 05:04||   2007-04-21 05:04|| Front Page Top

#5 Wonder how much time these hard-core terrorists types [sic al-Qaeda in Mesopotamia] are getting when sentenced.

WOT: Exacally how the hell are we going to prevail using PC ROE while battling Muslim Splodeydopes and al-Qaeda in Mesopotamia?
Posted by RD">RD  2007-04-21 05:48||   2007-04-21 05:48|| Front Page Top

#6 RD, it seems that quite a few of them jihadis are geting a short... rope. But that is the Iraqi judicial branch meting out the sentences.
Posted by twobyfour 2007-04-21 06:00||   2007-04-21 06:00|| Front Page Top

#7 "And so here he was, stretched out on the floor, stiff, pale, gray, and swollen in death, his “spiritual adviser,” Sheikh al-Rahman, lying alongside him. The men had been killed, along with two women and two small children, when an American F-16 had steered first one and then another 500-pound bomb into the house they occupied "

TF 145 caused the deaths of 4 'innocent' women and children in getting Zarqawi. To many that is unacceptable collateral damage. In the context of the article preceding this (head-chopping Tali-kid) I think it should be considered a feature and not a bug.
Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore  2007-04-21 09:09||   2007-04-21 09:09|| Front Page Top

#8 Glenmore,

You took the words right out of my keyboard:) That summarizes quite nicely the whole problem with the media, progressives and other sorted ilk. War kills people, duh?
Posted by Jack is Back!">Jack is Back!  2007-04-21 10:00||   2007-04-21 10:00|| Front Page Top

#9 TF 145 caused the deaths of 4 'innocent' women and children in getting Zarqawi. To many that is unacceptable collateral damage. In the context of the article preceding this (head-chopping Tali-kid) I think it should be considered a feature and not a bug.

If someone bleats about Geneva in connection to this, point out that under the Geneva Conventions, Zarqawi is responsible for the deaths of the women and children. By hiding among non-combatants, he was committing a war crime.

They'll either sputter about how we should be above all that, or that it doesn't matter, or that that's not really what the Conventions say.
Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford  2007-04-21 10:34|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2007-04-21 10:34|| Front Page Top

#10 If they were in the ame house as Zarqui, they were NOT "Innocent Victims".
Posted by Redneck Jim 2007-04-21 11:57||   2007-04-21 11:57|| Front Page Top

#11 IIRC one of the "children" was Zarq's young wife, aged 14, whom he used for delivering messages. Innocent child, yes. I doubt if she had any say in the matter. Zarqawi is still responsible for her death.
Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues  2007-04-21 13:28||   2007-04-21 13:28|| Front Page Top

#12 No one is innocent, right Chief?

Posted by Proud American Technocrat 2007-04-21 13:40||   2007-04-21 13:40|| Front Page Top

#13 No one is innocent, right Chief?

Some are, some aren't. We don't claim to be perfect in trying to figure out who is who, but we sure do try hard.

More importantly, recognizing that we can't be perfect in this regard, we're still going to go after those who mean us great harm.

I suppose that makes us less in your eyes.
Posted by Steve White">Steve White  2007-04-21 14:01||   2007-04-21 14:01|| Front Page Top

#14 Technocrat tell that to the thousands of women and children your Muslim hero slaughtered, on purpose.

My only problem with the story is an open ended question. How many pig skins did they bury the bastard with?
Posted by Icerigger">Icerigger  2007-04-21 14:17||   2007-04-21 14:17|| Front Page Top

#15 The rest of you may not be, but trailing daughter #2 believes I'm too innocent to be allowed out without protectors. She keeps translating vocabulary for me, too. I keep telling her that since I found Rantburg I've learned lots of keen new words, but she just smiles gently.
Posted by trailing wife 2007-04-21 14:20||   2007-04-21 14:20|| Front Page Top

#16 This detailed exposure of our methods and their results is disturbing. This could have waited. I am sure every senior insurgent will now have a translated copy of this article and know what to expect in interrogation. Damnit.
Posted by Angoling Borgia8717 2007-04-21 15:03||   2007-04-21 15:03|| Front Page Top

#17 To #16. I think the improvements in MRI lie detector technology has made this kind of interrogation a thing of the past for real suspects.
Posted by Penguin 2007-04-21 15:38||   2007-04-21 15:38|| Front Page Top

#18  This detailed exposure of our methods and their results is disturbing.

all the better reason to sub-contract the real interrogations to the egyptians.. knowing those methods won't really help you.
Posted by Abu do you love 2007-04-21 17:33||   2007-04-21 17:33|| Front Page Top

#19 Steve White & Icerigger

re: #'s 13 & 14 - Sorry, didn't mean it like that...

#12 was a slam (unfortunately lacking referential context) on the piece of puke, Chief Ward Churchill, for his ideal that no westerner (technocrat) is innocent, and therefore deserving of a 9-11 fate. The scumbags who screech and wail about the conduct of our brave, honorable, and EXTREMELY RESTRAINED US military (hey Joe M, that FELT pretty good!) in situations like Zarq’s comeuppance are simply using the same disgusting strategy.

And for what it’s worth, just to grind it in their faces, the T-shirt I’ve worn when confronting and challenging Churchill, his supporters, and the CU administration for protecting and promoting that wet bag-of-shit, displays on the back “Proud American Technocrat”, and on the front a photo of my high school buddy who died in the North Tower.

I will never forgive, and never forget.

Posted by Hyper 2007-04-21 21:46||   2007-04-21 21:46|| Front Page Top

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