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2004-04-14 Home Front: WoT

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Posted by tipper 2004-04-14 5:45:07 AM|| || Front Page|| [11127 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 The man is right! Excepting the UK the other coalition members don't have the capacity to do a serious amount of fighting. Irrespective of whether they have the political will. The damage is being done to reconstruction efforts not to military capabilities.

Posted by Phil B 2004-04-14 6:06:51 AM|| 2004-04-14 6:06:51 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Powerful stuff. But we dont have enough soldiers to do all the occupation stuff. He is wrong on that score. We can tear down a Saddam with less then we used, but we can not police it all, and be prepared to fight another regional war if a Kim Jong gets froggy. Allies help fill the gaps.

And I would also include the Aussies with the Brits, Aussies can fight.

Posted by kbr 2004-04-14 6:21:43 AM|| 2004-04-14 6:21:43 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Doh, and dont forget the Poles.

Posted by kbr 2004-04-14 6:24:02 AM|| 2004-04-14 6:24:02 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Can anyone point me to any instance of Kerry stating plainly why he considers this coalition "fraudulent?" Or to any instance of him specifying precisely which nations would have to be added to it, to correct whatever deficiency he's claiming exists? I can't find a thing. All I can find are vague generalities about having the U.N. "take the lead" or some such nonsense. When has the U.N. ever taken the lead, anywhere, and succeeded? Certainly not in Kosovo; I don't think they've even restored electrical service there yet, after years of U.N. administration.

Posted by Dave D. 2004-04-14 6:26:12 AM|| 2004-04-14 6:26:12 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 DaveD, unless we are serving Frog and Kraut, it is fraudulent to him and his socialist buddies.

Posted by badanov 2004-04-14 6:49:58 AM|| [http://www.rkka.org] 2004-04-14 6:49:58 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Yeah, that's the conclusion I came to long ago; but I'm wondering if he's ever said anything to the contrary.

So this pussy is afraid to utter the words "France" and "Germany" in his speeches, but he keeps whining that their absence renders the coalition "fraudulent." What a leader!

Posted by Dave D. 2004-04-14 6:54:36 AM|| 2004-04-14 6:54:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 The second largest military group in Iraq, after the United States, is the Iraqi army and civil defense forces. There have been some problems with the existing Iraqi security forces, but since they number over 150,000, it is truly apparent that the numbers giving problems are small.

I would not expect the Iraqi police to stand up to a much better equipped militia, and withdrawing was both a prudent and a reasonable choice when they were faced with Sadr's thugs. American police are not equipped and trained for such a task, either.

The unit that refused to go to Fallujah was poorly led. Unit failures are nearly always leadership failures; see 1st Cav in Korea or Kasserine Pass in North Africa. The Iraqis were being told that theirs was a defense of the nation role, and they were understandably anxious to be placed into a position they were not prepared for in advance, fighting their fellow Iraqis.

Don't forget that two batllns. of Iraqis are serving well in Fallujah. Police, Facility Security, Border Guards and Civil Defense forces are all at their posts and serving their nation throughout Iraq today. That's something I wish Bush had said last night.

Posted by Chuck Simmins 2004-04-14 10:15:02 AM|| [http://blog.simmins.org] 2004-04-14 10:15:02 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Dave D -

#4 Can anyone point me to any instance of Kerry stating plainly why he considers this coalition "fraudulent?"

#6 So this pussy is afraid to utter the words "France" and "Germany" in his speeches

Wasn't Kerry's mother from France????
We've been talking about connecting the dots y'all.

Posted by Anonymous4052 2004-04-14 11:43:45 AM|| 2004-04-14 11:43:45 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Anon4052: I'm perfectly aware that France and Germany are what Kerry means when he talks about the so-called "allies" who've allegedly made the coalition "fraudulent" by not being a part of it.

What I'm asking is, is there any documented instance of Kerry having the balls to actually call them by NAME instead of hiding behind the generic term "allies".

To the best of my knowledge, he never has.

Posted by Dave D. 2004-04-14 11:52:02 AM|| 2004-04-14 11:52:02 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 Dave D. - I agree with you: Kerry never made any such statements. My point is to add to yours- I believe that Kerry's failures are as a result of his upbringing, and not to expect him to give the answer you and I would like to see!

Posted by Anonymous4052 2004-04-14 12:16:21 PM|| 2004-04-14 12:16:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 i would just like to hear from anyone who said the same about wars in the past ..in bosnia/yugo it was an american show. basically the same breakdown of percentages..with americans the majority as in iraq today..hell the last war where our allies?? were a majority was in WWI!

Posted by Dan 2004-04-14 12:24:08 PM|| 2004-04-14 12:24:08 PM|| Front Page Top

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