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2009-04-13 Home Front: Culture Wars
War Veterans Seen As Particular Threat To The Government
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Posted by Anonymoose 2009-04-13 10:17|| || Front Page|| [11129 views ]  Top

#1 Government seen as growing threat to the US Constitution.

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Posted by Anon4021 2009-04-13 10:49||   2009-04-13 10:49|| Front Page Top

#2 This article is a single dimensional analysis of a multi-dimensional problem. The government needs to make provisions for the worst case scenario that our country goes into a depression, for sure, but blaming veterans or the right wing leaves out much. If the governments puts the country into the toilet, the ensuing bloodbath wont be from Vets. I venture to say, Vets will be back at the recruiting stations signing back up as Reserves to fight rioters or going to weekend drills. The real rioters will probably come from all segments of society. Vets will be the least pervasive segment.

Veterans, in my opinion FWIW, are less of a threat than fringe lunatics, obviously. Veterans were willing subjects serving the state, and in many senses are more loyal to protecting the US on that count alone. Second thing this analysis leaves out is that many Vets are prescribed happy pills nowadays. Thirdly, any Vet that I've talked to is ecstatic to be back in the United States after consecutive tours in hellhole environments. Also, combat vets have considerable family and community support for their valor in most cases, something that this article completely ignores.

An important point is that our government (which apparently have short memory since Viet Nam) should not be prejudiced against the very people who fought for them, or they risk creating the beast they are so afraid of. They have nothing to fear but fear itself. If indeed the country goes into a depression, and homelessness and lack of credit liquidity is the precursor to "insanity" of the citizens of the United States, they have as much if not more to fear from non-vets such as inner city thugs, illegal immigrant gang members and disillusioned citizenry as well as opportunistic foreign terrorists in general as they do from "right wing extremists or vets"

What the goverment should be on the look out for is placing blame on Conservatives in general, and making them into a fringe element by categorically discriminating against religion, or the gun owning churchgoer. This article is quite ridiculous.


Posted by GirlThursday 2009-04-13 11:33||   2009-04-13 11:33|| Front Page Top

#3 I thought they were talking about Zimbabwe.
Silly me...
Posted by tu3031 2009-04-13 11:37||   2009-04-13 11:37|| Front Page Top

#4 Inaccurate "themes" are they?

(U//FOUO) Rightwing extremist views bemoan the decline of U.S. stature and have recently focused on themes such as the loss of U.S. manufacturing capability to China and India, Russia’s control of energy resources and use of these to pressure other countries, and China’s investment in U.S. real estate and corporations as a part of subversion strategy.
Posted by Besoeker 2009-04-13 11:43||   2009-04-13 11:43|| Front Page Top

#5 The threat is from the Left. The Left will be frustrated when the economy truly hits the dumper and the masses then DON'T turn to them for salvation.

Right wing extremists are ineffectual. The so-called militia movement was a joke. But the Left likes to use these folks as their straw-men.

The threat has always been from the Left.
Posted by Steve White 2009-04-13 12:31||   2009-04-13 12:31|| Front Page Top

#6  I thought they were talking about Zimbabwe.

I had the same thought when I clicked on the link.

Posted by john frum 2009-04-13 13:35||   2009-04-13 13:35|| Front Page Top

#7 The despicable thing about this article is that it DOESN'T see illegal immigration, loss of sovereignty and restrictions on firearms as a valid and important concern.

That these are only the concern of "right-wing extremists" means that the authors are down with the whole concept of tyranny by the "correct" people.

Hey Babi, pitchforks are for politicians.
Posted by AlanC 2009-04-13 13:52||   2009-04-13 13:52|| Front Page Top

#8 Name the right wing extreme group that staged any armed insurrection. If you want to start naming far to center left wing groups, now that's another story and a very long list. Here's the problem, folks do not know their left from their right when it comes to the political spectrum. The farther left you move from the center, the more blood thirsty, violent and authoritarian they become. "threats from white supremacist and violent anti-government groups" sound like descriptors of the democrat party.
Posted by Last Breath Farm Resident 2009-04-13 13:53||   2009-04-13 13:53|| Front Page Top

#9 If you want to start naming far to center left wing groups, now that's another story and a very long list.

Yeah. Just ask Bill Ayers.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2009-04-13 15:35||   2009-04-13 15:35|| Front Page Top

#10 The government has nothing to fear from Right-wing Extremism(tm).

If, on the other hand, the government is suspicious of the people in general, then maybe it should be frightened.
Posted by Iblis 2009-04-13 16:30||   2009-04-13 16:30|| Front Page Top

#11 Most vets (me included) joined up to serve their nation. They DON'T like some disorganized "community organizer" trying to turn it into another France. Most of us remember our first duty: to support and defend the Constitution, and to bear true faith and allegiance to it. That oath says NOTHING about supporting the Democrap party as it tries to dismantle the Constitution. Most of us with an IQ above the freezing point of water also have read the Declaration of Independence, which provides a guideline of when revolution becomes necessary, and we ain't there yet. As long as OBambi understands that the Constitution limits HIS actions as well as those of Congress, we can get along. If he crosses the line, THEN it will be time to discuss "right-wing extremism".
Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot  2009-04-13 16:33|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]  2009-04-13 16:33|| Front Page Top

#12 feel free to make a note of this on your to-do list O-Team: create jobs Asshats. Thats what the business of your Administration should be all about.

That way when all the Vets come home, you wont be worried about being caught in sniper cross-hairs. And yes, I am a female veteran so I can fully understand the fear of us.
Posted by GirlThursday 2009-04-13 17:36||   2009-04-13 17:36|| Front Page Top

#13 No Constitution For You...

A disturbing story appeared last week in the Washington Times.

On his way home from a conference, the director of Development for Campaign for Liberty, Steve Bierfeldt, was detained “for further screening” at a Saint Louis airport by Transportation Security Administration (TSA) screeners.

The TSA screener was suspicious because Mr. Bierfeldt’s luggage contained a metal box with about $4,700.00 in cash and some Ron Paul bumper stickers. This “evidence” — the “large” amount of cash — seems to have made him some kind of security risk in the mind of the screener, who detained and questioned him for about half an hour:

Mr. Bierfeldt was attending his organization’s regional conference in St. Louis and said he was keenly aware, as the situation unfolded March 29, of a controversial report issued to Missouri law enforcement officials intended to identify members of radical militia members.
Posted by SR-71">SR-71  2009-04-13 18:12||   2009-04-13 18:12|| Front Page Top

#14 War Veterans Seen As Particular Effective Threat to The Government the Consolidation of Power by Entrenched and Evermore Authoritarian Bureaucrats

fixed it for you.
Posted by Procopius2k 2009-04-13 19:07||   2009-04-13 19:07|| Front Page Top

#15 I was expecting something like this to come out, just as during the Clinton Administration, so-called right wing domestic extremists became a top priority. People forget what that was like. It didn't take long for the new political appointees at the top of DHS to order up this report.

In the old days, the civilian population was indeed a threat to the government, and indeed overthrew it, AKA the American Revolution, but nowadays people don't care about constitutions and suchlike, and overthrowing tyrannical government is out of fashion.
Posted by Cynicism Inc 2009-04-13 19:25||   2009-04-13 19:25|| Front Page Top

#16 This isn't a report, it is another axe grinding. You have to plant seeds of doubt before you can demonize. In another couple of years we on the right could be the new "Juden".
Posted by whitecollar redneck 2009-04-13 19:35||   2009-04-13 19:35|| Front Page Top

#17 I stand with the War vets (because I stand because of the War Vets).
Posted by Hyper 2009-04-13 19:55||   2009-04-13 19:55|| Front Page Top

#18 Ooooooo, we're so scary. And I suppose my pepper spray disguised as a lipstick is a threat to the entire eastern seaboard?
Posted by GirlThursday 2009-04-13 20:12||   2009-04-13 20:12|| Front Page Top

#19 Are they getting ready to do a MacArthur and Patton repeat of the murderous attack on the Bonus March?
Bonus Army
NPR with newsreel footage of the attacks
one nice vid Notice the tanks and flamethrowers.. other vids are nasty...
Posted by 3dc 2009-04-13 20:17||   2009-04-13 20:17|| Front Page Top

#20 Are they getting ready to do a MacArthur and Patton repeat of the murderous attack on the Bonus March?
Bonus Army
NPR with newsreel footage of the attacks
one nice vid Notice the tanks and flamethrowers.. other vids are nasty...
Posted by 3dc 2009-04-13 20:18||   2009-04-13 20:18|| Front Page Top

#21 sorry for double post.
Browser crashed...
Posted by 3dc 2009-04-13 20:19||   2009-04-13 20:19|| Front Page Top

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