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2012-04-12 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Russia Plans to Flatten Georgia if Israel Attacks Iran
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Posted by Chique Unock2033 2012-04-12 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11131 views ]  Top

#1 "By one swift strike ... may ensure control of ALL ..." > Methinks Beijing = Rising China is thinking the same thingy over in East-Asia + Pacific side - iff it can't achieve "sole" andor "sovereign" Base Rights diplomatically for the PLA vee Taiwan + the "First Island Chain", it will do so FORCIBLY.

Said it before - China sees itself as the World's ONE-N-ONLY Successor to the "weak/declining" superpower USA, Not unlike many other wannabes in World Histoire', IT WANTS ITS POWER + INFLUENCE ASAP AMAP ALAP, + ITS NOT TAKING "NO" FOR AN ANSWER.

Ditto Neo-Persian, OWG Caliphate, + Nuke-happy Rising Iran; ditto ditto again as per Radical Islam = MilTerrs/NGOS.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2012-04-12 00:43||   2012-04-12 00:43|| Front Page Top

#2 Dey N-O-T be waiting until after 2050, 2080, 2100, or 2200.

D *** NG IT, SONG > "DEY WANT IT ALL, DEY WANT IT ALL, DEY WANT IT ALL, + DEY WANT IT NOW"!

[QUEEN > "WE WILL ROCK YOU" here].
Posted by JosephMendiola 2012-04-12 00:48||   2012-04-12 00:48|| Front Page Top

#3 Wow.... That could start an n-way world war.
Posted by Water Modem 2012-04-12 01:45||   2012-04-12 01:45|| Front Page Top

#4 Some people will look for an excuse to try and stop Israel defending self anywhere.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2012-04-12 01:58||   2012-04-12 01:58|| Front Page Top

#5 Maybe, g(r)omgoru, but Russia's been wanting to reassert control of Georgia for some time now quite apart from Israeli concerns. Among other things, Georgia currently hosts some counterWMD activities in collaboration with the US, which Russians like Putin see as an infringement on their desired sphere of influence.
Posted by uite  2012-04-12 08:37||   2012-04-12 08:37|| Front Page Top

#6 How does that contradicts what I said, uite?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2012-04-12 09:11||   2012-04-12 09:11|| Front Page Top

#7 ..and the Poles go nuclear for their own defense.
Posted by Procopius2k 2012-04-12 09:15||   2012-04-12 09:15|| Front Page Top

#8 Okay, I have no idea how/why my nym showed up as uite above, but that was me FWIW.

I read your comment to suggest that Russian plans were in response to potential Israeli attacks per se. My response is that it is quite likely that this would be true only in a superficial sense, i.e. insofar as an attack on Iran provides a pretext for doing what they want to do to advance their own goals.
Posted by lotp 2012-04-12 09:40||   2012-04-12 09:40|| Front Page Top

#9 This article comes from Iran. Do you think they have a motive for predicting dire consequences for an attack on Iran?

The Russians will do what is good for Russia, not for anybody else, and flattening Georgia will not help Russia. Russia invaded Georgia to gain territory with large ethnic Russian populations. Mission accomplished. Going any further will not gain them anything except enemies.

I would expect them to go into northern Kazakhstan or eastern Ukraine where large numbers of ethnic Russians still live.
Posted by Frozen Al 2012-04-12 09:47||   2012-04-12 09:47|| Front Page Top

#10 Question? If both Iran and China are posing for World Power, will there be an Iran vs China conflict?
Posted by Sherry 2012-04-12 11:12||   2012-04-12 11:12|| Front Page Top

#11 :-)
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2012-04-12 11:34||   2012-04-12 11:34|| Front Page Top

#12 "I would expect them to go into northern Kazakhstan or eastern Ukraine where large numbers of ethnic Russians still live."

They don't have to. Russia just hands out passports there.
Posted by newc 2012-04-12 12:05||   2012-04-12 12:05|| Front Page Top

#13 More
Posted by newc 2012-04-12 15:55||   2012-04-12 15:55|| Front Page Top

#14 Simple answer.

If we can't stop Iran from getting nukes, you can't stop us from giving Georgia nukes.

(push your chips to the center of the table)
Posted by flash91 2012-04-12 17:06||   2012-04-12 17:06|| Front Page Top

#15 Actually .. if you looked at the history of Israeli nukes... they always made sure Moscow and the dacha regions were within target range. So much so that some arguments state that the USSR was the only reason Israel developed nukes.

Now.. if the armies of the USSR Russia are massing in Armenia that's much closer than Moscow and must be starting to look pretty tasty to Israel's strategic war planners...
Posted by Water Modem 2012-04-12 17:57||   2012-04-12 17:57|| Front Page Top

#16 Take over Georgia Black Sea coast, blocking route for Azerbaijan and other Caspian states oil and gas to Western markets would be in both Russia and Iran's interest.
Posted by phil_b 2012-04-12 19:45||   2012-04-12 19:45|| Front Page Top

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