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2005-04-05 Iraq-Jordan

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Posted by ed 2005-04-05 6:49:54 AM|| || Front Page|| [11129 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 What a friggin loser. I think this relates to the jihadis' inability to deal with western women. Turns them into homicidial maniacs willing to commit despicable sex crimes (kill many innocents, get your 72 doe eyed virgins).

Posted by Classical_Liberal 2005-04-05 9:51:28 AM|| 2005-04-05 9:51:28 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Wait just a friggin second! We don't need to import any Jihadis from Arab countries, we have our own homegrown whack jobs here in California. The connection to California was a miniscule part of Banna's life (sounds like the best part). He was probably pre-disposed to be a Jihadist or maybe he was one waiting for the best time to strike here in California.

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2005-04-05 10:14:19 AM|| 2005-04-05 10:14:19 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 I still think most, if not all of these jihadiis are acting out sexual abuse trauma--I keep reading how "quiet" they are, how "soft spoken," how "emotional" and how "focused" on their future they are, but underneath is the rage and the desire to lash out at an enemy they think they can control through reliance on the tenets of an exacting religion promising utopia and the restoration of "honor." Structure and restoration are a powerful duo in the lives of those who have been humiliated and shattered.

"Moving to the West often spurs Muslims to despise the West more than they did before they got there."

Wonder why that is. Perhaps America is oriented toward the individual compared with their countries, which are generally oriented toward social groups, that they feel more isolated and unimportant than ever, which translate into further "humiliation." Fuel for the fire . . .

Other thoughts, anyone?

Posted by ex-lib 2005-04-05 10:43:17 AM|| 2005-04-05 10:43:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Congenital schizophrenia.

Posted by raptor 2005-04-05 10:51:48 AM|| 2005-04-05 10:51:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 I have an anecdote which applies. I knew a Saudi guy who had lived in America for almost 15 years. He loved talking to me and other expats because he was "so American" that the other Saudis almost shunned him. He was in his mid-twenties, his parents were obviously well-connected Saudis (to get such a long stay / assignment) and he had just returned to Saudi -- to get married.

It seems he wasn't very attractive to American femalians - who resented his hyper-authoritarian Saudi Wahhabi Muzzy approach. So his Daddy had arranged a marriage for him with a good Saudi girl he could own and utterly dominate. I can't remember specific phrases, probably because it was waay over the top, but it was clear she was going to be his pet and slave. He giggled, described his planned exploits - leaving nothing to the imagination, and I gasped - yeah, me, gasping... who'da thunk it? I was appalled and realized, over time, that everything he was saying was pretty common stuff for the Saudi men - it's just that he felt comfortable telling me in detail where others would only imply. BTW, he was amused by my disdain and discomfort with his gleeful hand-rubbing (yes, he did - with a twinkle and a giggle) over how he would dominate her. Luckily, I soon relocated to another part of Aramco and did not run into him but once or twice afterwards.

It's bad. That they can't do the same with American femalians unless they can sucker them into going to their homeland as their wife, where she will immediately be relieved of her separate US Passport, you can bet, is likely very frustrating. I picture this guy when I read these articles and get nauseated all over again.

FWIW.

Posted by .com 2005-04-05 11:01:45 AM|| 2005-04-05 11:01:45 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 (2) Moving to the West often spurs Muslims to despise the West more than they did before they got there. This appears to be what happened with Banna.

Sounds like jealousy to me.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-04-05 11:08:53 AM|| 2005-04-05 11:08:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 "Moving to the West often spurs Muslims to despise the West more than they did before they got there."

The West is about choice and discipline to avoid the bad ones. Islam is about lack of choices so that discipline is not even needed, a fact that makes them ill prepared for the West. That is why Atta and company got lap dances, and it is also why so many Muslim men cannot stand to see a woman uncovered.

I think many communists have a similar problem. You here many complain about too many choices or the lies and duplicity of ads because they have trouble making the commercial decisions themselves and would like someone else to do so for them so they can avoid making the wrong one.

Posted by rjschwarz 2005-04-05 11:42:51 AM|| [http://rjschwarz.com] 2005-04-05 11:42:51 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 I can think of several reasons why visiting the West would make a Muslim despise us more than before.

We reject the "True Faith" and yet are apparently successful, and this gets rubbed in daily. Either God isn't doing His job or the devil is supporting us: the faithful Muslim had best get cracking fighting for the True Way.
We not only support Israel, when we think about the MidEast at all, but until recently we pretty much ignored the rest of the countries. It is bad enough to be hated, but to be ignored as irrelevant?
We're abundant in vices he's not used to seeing displayed so prominently, and a bit short on some virtues he's used to expecting (like looking out for your family). We shock him. He doesn't realize how shocking his country is to us.

I wonder, .com: did you like the Saudis more before you actually knew some? :-)

Posted by James 2005-04-05 1:36:39 PM|| [http://www.idontknowbut.blogspot.com] 2005-04-05 1:36:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 I dunno. Sounds like another queer jihadi. Eating crabs in California? Probably before his hajj to Mecca, he went on hajj to Castro street in SF.

Couldn't get a visa to get back to to his lover in time for Gavin Newsome to officiate at their wedding, so he decided to go to Iraq and murder people for Allah.

The dude was a friggin' lawyer. He could have had a good life in Jordan.

Posted by Penguin 2005-04-05 2:28:14 PM|| 2005-04-05 2:28:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 These Saudis need Jesus in their Wahhabi lives, can I say that on Rantburg?

Posted by Adam 2005-04-05 3:50:41 PM|| 2005-04-05 3:50:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 James - Well, I know no one will believe it, lol!, but I was once a romantic. I actually went over the first time thinking neutrally and considering it my very own Arabian Adventure. Sheesh! That lasted about an hour - I arrived in the early afternoon during Ramadan that first trip. Man, if you smoke, Ramadan sucks the big one, heh. I was quickly disabused of all my other silly ideas in very short order. It's the same old story - one on one you think you're talking to a regular Joe / Yagoub. Over time you realize they are not your friends. Period. Never were. Never will be. And there goes the last of the delusions.

Posted by .com 2005-04-05 4:10:01 PM|| 2005-04-05 4:10:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 PD are you telling me you didn't try on a sheet? I mean that's brought over thousands to the true faith. Think about Toole O'toole prancing on the dunes..... and what did happened to Larry in that train station anyway?

Posted by Shipman 2005-04-05 6:18:23 PM|| 2005-04-05 6:18:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Sooo, let's nuke Saudi Arabia, build a Hooters and a WalMart SuperCenter, in that order; to take the place of Mecca.

Posted by badanov 2005-04-05 6:25:07 PM|| [http://www.rkka.org] 2005-04-05 6:25:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Thanks .com for both posts. "Arabia" is better left to the imagination, cuz the real thing is nothing anybody would like to experience, it sounds like. Everybody should listen to .com. Americans can be naive when associating with Arabs, and it's good to be forewarned.

About the "vices" in America (the sleeze factor)--it was my experience that most Arab/Moslem males think EVERYBODY in America is participating in these things, when really, it's a small percentage. Most people are plugged into their families and are just trying to pay the mortgage. . . . At least in the red states!

"The West is about choice and discipline to avoid the bad ones. Islam is about lack of choices so that discipline is not even needed, a fact that makes them ill prepared for the West."

Great comment, rjschwarz. They can't navigate our society and it pisses them off. Poor babies.

Posted by ex-lib 2005-04-05 8:47:36 PM|| 2005-04-05 8:47:36 PM|| Front Page Top

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