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2007-04-01 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

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Posted by Dave D. 2007-04-01 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11129 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Diplomatic Attack = Pacifist Insurgency

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-04-01 00:32|| 2007-04-01 00:32|| Front Page Top

#2 Whoever put the words diplomatic attack together deserves to get bitchslapped.

Posted by Mike N. 2007-04-01 00:37|| 2007-04-01 00:37|| Front Page Top

#3 against the WEST: since August 1988 the A$$otollas have collective batting average of .938

Posted by RD 2007-04-01 00:43|| 2007-04-01 00:43|| Front Page Top

#4 of course we did have a proper payback for Jihmmuh Cartiers hostage failure 1979 - November 4, 1979.

the previously alluded to period of the Iran Iraq War, September 1980 to August 1988.

Posted by RD 2007-04-01 00:57|| 2007-04-01 00:57|| Front Page Top

#5 We are not going to do anything overt. covert, but not overt.

Posted by anymouse">anymouse 2007-04-01 01:46|| 2007-04-01 01:46|| Front Page Top

Posted by gorb 2007-04-01 03:12|| 2007-04-01 03:12|| Front Page Top

#7 Mullahs have already won. Because the question is no longer their nuke ambitions, but the release of hostages.

Posted by gromgoru 2007-04-01 06:25|| 2007-04-01 06:25|| Front Page Top

#8 Yep, fire up the rhetoric bombs in lethal measure. Then toss some verbal jabs. That will send 'em a message.

Posted by Sneaze 2007-04-01 08:14|| 2007-04-01 08:14|| Front Page Top

#9 What we need is the kind of global tsunami against Iranian assets that I recommended for Al Qaeda in 2001.
Within the space of 24 hours, the following should happen:
B-2s and ballistic missiles take out the nuclear facility at Bushehr (its vaunted 75 foot depth is pie-crust to our new weapons).
Carrier forces, land-based tac-air, and cruise missile destroy Iran's handful of overworked gasoline refineries.
Submarines, surface ships and other air assets sink the entire Iranian navy, at its moorings or at sea, even if this is the middle of the Atlantic. (Ideally, I would like to catch one of their scows off Cherbourg or Brest, just outside the Froggistan dhimmi-zone, er, territorial limit so its demise could have a certain instructive value.)
Every Iranian merchant vessel on the high seas is boarded or sunk.
Every Iranian citizen in the US or the UK is rounded up and sent to a processing center, where those with anti-mullah sympathies will be sorted out and sent on their way, and the rest held until the crisis is resolved.
Prominent pro-Iranian propagandists arrested and charged with failure to register as a foreign agent.
All Iranian assets within our reach confiscated.
Iranian UN mission closed and its accredited diplomats expelled, with non-accredited personnel to be arrested.
Iranian owned satellites destroyed if possible and jammed if not.

Once this is done, we contact Dinnerjacket and his mullah bosses (assuming the outraged populace hasn't lynched them) and offer to talk.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2007-04-01 10:52|| 2007-04-01 10:52|| Front Page Top

#10 Works for me AC, it works for me... Oh, and presumably said seized Iranian assets could be used to pay for this display? (heh!)

Posted by Tony (UK) 2007-04-01 11:49|| 2007-04-01 11:49|| Front Page Top

#11 Speaking of diplomats, all countries should pull their Ambassadors and staffs out of Iran most rikky tik.

Posted by wxjames 2007-04-01 12:21|| 2007-04-01 12:21|| Front Page Top

#12 That's a big go, AC. Hit the Iranians so hard and from so many different directions that only their hair won't hurt.

Oh, and presumably said seized Iranian assets could be used to pay for this display?

Tony, it needs to be made standard procedure that after subjecting rogue nations to the usual "break the bad boys toys sans nation-building", they also get sent a bill for the ops. Iran has plenty of oil to finance their own comeuppance. Pump them dry for all I care.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-04-01 13:07|| 2007-04-01 13:07|| Front Page Top

#13 Zenster

Oh I concur completely matey. None of this bollox about 'rebuilding your cities', oh no. In my opinion, there's far too much of 'living by the sword' and far too bloody little of 'dying by the sword' going on at the moment.

Preferably the latter should come before the former. Or as I reminded by the comic version of Judge Dredd; "Next time we get our retaliation in first".

Bastards.

Posted by Tony (UK) 2007-04-01 18:12|| 2007-04-01 18:12|| Front Page Top

#14 I really think that seeing Rosie locked up as an unregistered foreign agent would break them but it is admittedly a very tall order.
This is all about media. The media industrial complex is not a tool of terrorism, it is the other way around.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2007-04-01 18:27|| 2007-04-01 18:27|| Front Page Top

#15 Mullahs have already won. Because the question is no longer their nuke ambitions, but the release of hostages.

I'm not so sure that will be true this time around. While it is true that they got the focus off their nuke ambitions, what the Mullahs seem to be missing is that they are enhancing our ambitions to nuke them.

It seems like I am seeing the same signals that we sent before Afghanistan and Iraq. I don't think this will fizzle out. I think that they may be hoping to use these hostages as shields. IE: Nuke the reactor and the lady gets it. Having the sailors as sheilds may give them some leverage, but I don't think it is enough to prevent a strike, it just gives us more justification to do so.

The MSM has been doing a daily body/atrocity count since the war began. The idea was to wear everyone down. But after enough time, it seems that, sadly, everyone is just starting to tune it out as status quo.

Posted by Angaiger Tojo1904 2007-04-01 19:19|| 2007-04-01 19:19|| Front Page Top

#16 C'mon, this is going into its second week and all that has happened is the fable 'Diplomatic Attack.'
Where's the Hell frozen over sign? That will happen before the UK does anything. And GWB is so-Pelosi-whipped he won't say shit even with a mouth full.

Posted by USN, ret. 2007-04-01 19:46|| 2007-04-01 19:46|| Front Page Top

#17 In my opinion, there's far too much of 'living by the sword' and far too bloody little of 'dying by the sword' going on at the moment.

Brilliant, Tony, gobsmacking brilliant! Same goes for:

"Next time we get our retaliation in first". [guffaw]

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-04-01 19:48|| 2007-04-01 19:48|| Front Page Top

#18 And GWB is so-Pelosi-whipped he won't say shit even with a mouth full.

Say it ain't so, USN, Ret.! Bush simply must find the grit to at least censure, if not arrest, Pelosi for violating the Logan act. This one single act might finally make the American public aware of what sort of treason is being fomented within the Democratic party's camp.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-04-01 19:53|| 2007-04-01 19:53|| Front Page Top

#19 I don't underestimate the power of the western world to wimp out. But if we have a plan in action to wipe out their reactor, I doubt that we would allow this incident to cause much in the way of a change of plans.

I suspect there is a plan because we seem to be going down the check list of items that they went through before.

Posted by Angaiger Tojo1904 2007-04-01 19:56|| 2007-04-01 19:56|| Front Page Top

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