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2009-03-21 Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Margelov: The MIG 29 aid to Lebanon is a message to Israel
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Posted by Fred 2009-03-21 00:00|| || Front Page|| [10 views ]  Top

#1 Targets?
Posted by tipover 2009-03-21 00:42||   2009-03-21 00:42|| Front Page Top

#2 And Israel has the right to treat active threats as an act of war and respond accordingly. Israeli pilots have recently had lots and lots of practice hitting their targets. I hope Russia was paid upfront.
Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife  2009-03-21 00:46||   2009-03-21 00:46|| Front Page Top

#3 Reminder to MiG pilots: Your most important piece of equipment is your ejection seat.
Posted by ed 2009-03-21 00:53||   2009-03-21 00:53|| Front Page Top

#4 The MiG 29 is not the best aircraft in the world, especially if it goes up against the latest model of F16 or F15. And most definitely not if it is piloted by an Arab - some of the worst pilots in the world. Of course, ins'allah maintenance on the planes does not help any.
Posted by Shieldwolf 2009-03-21 02:35||   2009-03-21 02:35|| Front Page Top

#5 USAF people I know say it's a very good plane that was designed to go up against F15s and F16s. A lot depends on whether they gave the Lebanese upgraded avionics and Russian pilots and maintenance crews.
Posted by lotp 2009-03-21 07:21||   2009-03-21 07:21|| Front Page Top

#6 Let's remember that the Indian Air Force flies the MiG-29, and our guys found the Indians to be very, very capable.
Posted by Steve White 2009-03-21 11:13||   2009-03-21 11:13|| Front Page Top

#7 And the Rooskies shot down several US planes over 'Nam.
Posted by Bobby 2009-03-21 11:19||   2009-03-21 11:19|| Front Page Top

#8 I can't recall the last time a Russian aircraft shot down a U.S. manufactured aircraft

Thinking it was a Mig-25(?) take down of that F-18 on the opening night of Desert Storm.
Posted by Shipman 2009-03-21 11:28|| www.cybernations.net]">[www.cybernations.net]  2009-03-21 11:28|| Front Page Top

#9 A lot depends on whether they gave the Lebanese upgraded avionics and Russian pilots and maintenance crews.

If the Russians also gave pilots and crews, I'd worry, because they ought to be well-trained. If the Lebanese are doing either, not nearly so many worries. Either way: targets.
Posted by trailing wife  2009-03-21 14:47||   2009-03-21 14:47|| Front Page Top

#10 tw, I don't think the Russians expect payment. The chance to cause Israel problems was enough for them.

I would expect them to withdraw maintenance (which would really make these migs targets) should the Lebanese get too uppity about wanting the Syrian proxies out of the country.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2009-03-21 19:11||   2009-03-21 19:11|| Front Page Top

#11 And I expect the main use these planes will see is in bombing potentially pro-western areas in the next battles of the civil war. I would expect in that case that not only would Israel not do anything about it, but that you'd see people posting here that it was really a good thing or that it's just one group of animals killing another or something like that while the Syrians were consolidating their power.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2009-03-21 19:15||   2009-03-21 19:15|| Front Page Top

#12 Putin to Obama: Your move.
Posted by DoDo 2009-03-21 21:50||   2009-03-21 21:50|| Front Page Top

#13 I remember hearing stories from the '73 Arab-Israeli war about how Syrian pilots, flying Russian MiGs would bail out the second they got painted by Israeli pilots' radar.
The Israeli pilots are the best in the world, and have been for a long time.
Posted by Rambler in Virginia">Rambler in Virginia  2009-03-21 21:52||   2009-03-21 21:52|| Front Page Top

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