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2004-03-16 Europe

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Posted by busan-kim 2004-03-16 1:39:58 PM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 i thinkin the link is a not work.

Posted by muck4doo 2004-3-16 1:44:03 PM|| 2004-3-16 1:44:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 thinkin not work? hmmmmm.... confirms a lot

Posted by Frank G 2004-3-16 1:47:47 PM|| 2004-3-16 1:47:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 I don't know about the rest of the Rantburgers, but I'm about ready for Fred to grant posting rights by invitation-only. Reading illiterate crap like this, and antisemitic screeds from the likes of that psychotic ADL guy, is getting to be too much.

Posted by Dave D. 2004-3-16 1:55:20 PM|| 2004-3-16 1:55:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 I don't know, this reads like a good ops plan to me. Many of these points are already well under way. If Binny had followed this plan, rather than attacking on 9-11 and waking us up, much of Europe would have been swallowed before anyone noticed. Some of it still may.

Posted by Steve 2004-3-16 2:13:42 PM|| 2004-3-16 2:13:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 This is a blog entry, not news.

Posted by Scott 2004-3-16 2:38:25 PM|| [http://tacoflavoredkisses.com/tfkblog/] 2004-3-16 2:38:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 "promote complete secularism in the government "

Oh, yeah, *that's* what Islamofascism and Sharia is all about, it's all about having secularism. Silly me, and I thought that secularism and religious fascism were natural enemies...

Guess that the Founding Fathers of the US were all islamofascists at heart, right?

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"-b) promote EU
--i) the bigger the EU the better it is to manipulate --ii) just as in UN, the weakest link will determine the course of action"

Ah! But that only applies in the kind of EU that *Britain* has been after -- weakening EU by demanding every country retains a veto, and sabotaging every defense pact in the continent.

Now, if *I* was Osama, I'd have possibly urged the West to invade Iraq and justify it through false WMD intelligence. It:

a) takes down a secular dictator, leaving the field open for decades of future islamofascist action with a Shiite majority connected to Iranian mullahs like Sistani and Madr.
b) keeps more than half the available American army tied down, so that for many long years they won't be able to move to the support of any democratic rebellions within Syria or Iran.
c) Manages to disarm MEK, opponents to the mullahs of Iran.
d) Fuels the whole jihadi movement throughout the world with thousands of new recruits who see this action as an unjustified invasion.
e) Tears apart the European-American alliance, gradually bringing down philo-American governments throughout the continent, and bringing up anti-American ones.
f) Makes completely untrustworthy to the global populace any future intelligence that US and Britain may bring to the public -- even if that future intelligence is actually accurate.

Second course of action, if I was Osama, would have been to play the role Britain has played in the EU -- preventing among other things any defense alliance and any solidarity clause between the member states (even on a fully voluntary basis), or any deepening of the Union.

We must *divide* Western civilisation -- Allah forbid that they ever stand united in politics or defense.

Third suggested course of action would be to play France's part who, undisciplined and rhetorically insane, helped divide up Western civilisation even further -- not nearly as much as US and Britain had already managed to, ofcourse, but nonetheless still shares in the blame.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2004-3-16 3:10:51 PM|| 2004-3-16 3:10:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Aris, you really aren't all that clear on why Iraq was liberated, are you?

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-3-16 4:37:28 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com] 2004-3-16 4:37:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Robert> Well, 12 percent of Britons think it had something to do with the War on Terror. :-) Larger percentages think it had to do with human rights, and several people think that WMDs were an issue.

We don't know yet to what direction a new Iraqi government will blow.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2004-3-16 5:31:23 PM|| 2004-3-16 5:31:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 "promote..secularism"
Aris, it's called a 'feignt' or a 'ploy'.
See, the Islamists promote secularism (since, in their minds, nature abhors a vacuum); then when there is no more religion (and nature is a-busy abhorring), they promote their form of Islam.
I thought you would have caught that.

Posted by Les Nessman 2004-3-16 6:23:42 PM|| 2004-3-16 6:23:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Dave D. -
I don't think this post belongs here either (it's not a 'real' news item), but it ain't illiterate either.

It sounds like a pretty good plan, and unfortunately most parts of it are already underway.

Posted by Les Nessman 2004-3-16 6:30:28 PM|| 2004-3-16 6:30:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 "See, the Islamists promote secularism "

Except that they don't. They never have, they never will. Check out Turkey if you don't believe me. Or any other place in the world.

"then when there is no more religion"

You don't really have a clue what "secularism" means, do you?

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2004-3-16 7:31:24 PM|| 2004-3-16 7:31:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 "Except that they don't. etc..."
The title of this post is "If I were Osama..." not "A complete and detailed account of what Islamists are up to lately..." See, Aris, it's a posting about what the author would do if he was Osama bin Laden. I thought you would have understood that.
Yes, I know what secularism is, do you? I was summarising some of the points of this post in the style of the author. I figured you would have got that.

Posted by Les Nessman 2004-3-17 12:03:50 AM|| 2004-3-17 12:03:50 AM|| Front Page Top

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