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2007-03-30 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

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Posted by Seafarious 2007-03-30 01:43|| || Front Page|| [11134 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Too bad their holy book doesn't spell it out plainly like in the Bible.

THOU SHALT NOT STEAL.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-03-30 02:47|| 2007-03-30 02:47|| Front Page Top

#2 This displeases allah.

Posted by Sneaze 2007-03-30 03:42|| 2007-03-30 03:42|| Front Page Top

#3 Meanwhile in Michigan 15 million gallons of sewage have mysteriously vanished. Where has it gone?

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2007-03-30 04:33|| 2007-03-30 04:33|| Front Page Top

#4 But with the burgeoning population producing nearly four times as much waste as the plant could treat...

Worst. Genocide. Ever.

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2007-03-30 05:20|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2007-03-30 05:20|| Front Page Top

#5 forced to store the overflow in the nearby dunes

In addition to the bit in the Bible about thou shalt not steal, I'm pretty sure there is something in there about a house (or sewage lagoon) built on sand will not stand.

Posted by SteveS 2007-03-30 05:58|| 2007-03-30 05:58|| Front Page Top

#6 Sweage is that sewage does.

Posted by newc">newc 2007-03-30 06:08|| 2007-03-30 06:08|| Front Page Top

#7 "A 2004 United Nations report warned that the sewage facility, built to service a population of 50,000, was handling waste from 190,000 people, and flooding was inevitable. It warned that the lake created by the overflow from the seven basins posed a serious health hazard, providing a breeding ground for mosquitoes and waterborne diseases."

gotta go a bit further from the link ... but it's just a big joke for U.S.

Posted by Bruce from MS">Bruce from MS 2007-03-30 07:08|| 2007-03-30 07:08|| Front Page Top

#8 I feel so sorry for the sewerage , being released into Gaza . I bet its gutted .

:p

Posted by MAcNails 2007-03-30 07:11|| 2007-03-30 07:11|| Front Page Top

#9 Poor Mr. Hanky.

Posted by Deacon Blues 2007-03-30 07:19|| 2007-03-30 07:19|| Front Page Top

#10 "... but it's just a big joke for U.S."

As it should be, along with all the neurotic liberals who think everything wrong with the world's chronic shitholes is somehow our problem.

IT'S THE PALESTINIANS, STUPID!!!!!

Posted by Dave D.">Dave D. 2007-03-30 07:19|| 2007-03-30 07:19|| Front Page Top

#11 "... but it's just a big joke for U.S."

Damn straight, skippy. I think it's hilarious. ALL of Gaza should be swept away in a tidal wave of sewage. And no Paleo should gripe about it either because the sewage is just exercising its legitimate "right of return."

The stupid Gaza bastards have, as Abba Eban said about all Paleos, "never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity." They could have had peace DECADES ago if they had really wanted it. Instead, they prefer to live this barbarous existence whose sole reason for being is the destruction of Israel. It's long past just stupid and self-destructive; it's arguably mass insanity, probably caused by their attachment to the moon god cult.

That said, I am constantly amazed at the self-restraint the Israelis show in the face of such flagrant and continuing provocation. Even using conventional weapons they could make Gaza and Gazans cease to exist any afternoon they chose to do so and still be home for dinner. Maybe one day, when they've finally had enough of Paleos murdering innocent people, they will.

If they do, the Paleos will have no one but themselves to blame because they could have changed the path leading to that outcome at any time--but absolutely refused to do so.

Posted by Mac 2007-03-30 07:50|| 2007-03-30 07:50|| Front Page Top

#12 ...officials were forced to store the overflow in the nearby dunes, creating a lake of sewage covering nearly 45 hectares...

I think we found a new site for the United Nations Building.....

Posted by CrazyFool 2007-03-30 08:18|| 2007-03-30 08:18|| Front Page Top

#13 Here's another possible cause...

Jerusalem Post 3/4/07

It took seven years, but the Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency) has finally put a stop to one of the more ironic aspects on Israel's war on terror: Kassam rockets made of Israeli metal. A Palestinian from the Gaza Strip who worked as a metal merchant at the Karni crossing between Israel and the Strip was arrested by the Shin Bet last month for allegedly selling pipes he bought in Israel to terrorist groups that used them to manufacture Kassams, it was released for publication on Sunday.

On February 9, the Shin Bet arrested Amar Azk, 37. During his interrogation, he confessed selling the pipes to Hamas and other terrorist organizations that manufactured Kassam rockets, fired almost daily at Israel. The Shin Bet said Azk's activities began with the start of the second intifada in 2000 and were only brought to a halt by his arrest. The agency could not say how much metal Azk traded, except that it was "significant."

The pipes that were sold to Zak were intended for the construction of a sewage system in Gaza. The Shin Bet has been unable to determine the amount of metal that actually made its way to the terror organizations, and how much went to the sewage project.

The Shin Bet arrested Azk after it received numerous reports last year that hollow pipes made in Israel were being used to manufacture Kassam rockets and shoulder-launched missiles.

The Shin Bet found that most of the raw materials used to manufacture Kassams came from Israel. The Israeli companies, the security service said, were used by the terrorist groups without their knowledge. As such, the Shin Bet refused to divulge the names of the firms.

In November 2006, OC Southern Command Maj.-Gen. Yoav Galant issued an order forbidding the sale of hollow pipes of certain sizes to the Gaza Strip.

Put me down for "big joke in the US" also.

Posted by tu3031 2007-03-30 09:37|| 2007-03-30 09:37|| Front Page Top

#14 Wow. Just....wow.

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2007-03-30 09:51|| 2007-03-30 09:51|| Front Page Top

#15 Hoist on their own petards.

Posted by Excalibur 2007-03-30 10:05|| 2007-03-30 10:05|| Front Page Top

#16 The Paleos are living their own metaphor. They have actually pounded sand and are stuck with the consequences. As a sanitary engineer who has designed septic systems, lagoons, and sewage treatment plants, I am in SHOCK and AWE from these events in Gaza.

A Sewage Tsunami. Allan works in mysterious ways.

Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul 2007-03-30 11:01|| 2007-03-30 11:01|| Front Page Top

#17 Actually this kind of shit (pun intended) really gets the Paleos worked up but for the wriong reasons. Just a couple of miles down the the road Israelis have fresh water, indoor plumbing, plenty of food, education, computers, Ipods, cars (without bombs), and a much higher standard of living. The Paleos are still stuck in the middles ages and they blame the problems on the Israelis. Not to sound racial but it's much like Jesse Jackson blaming "White America" for all the ills of Black America. Problem with the paleos is that they have no "Leaders" beyond the murderers in Hamas, PLO, etc.

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2007-03-30 11:06|| 2007-03-30 11:06|| Front Page Top

#18 Apparently it was better to pour their humanitarian funds into terrorism and corruption than to build infrastructure or a meaningful economy.

Think we'll hear any crying about that? I didn't think so. At most it will be just another lesson where corruption ends and undeniable consequences begin, and even that will be hazy to the people doing the embezzling.

The Palestinians are all idiots on this one, from the idiots who lived near the cesspool who stole the sand and thereby created a timebomb(what kind of people steal dirt anyway?), to those who witnessed it and said nothing, to those who owned/oversaw the "facilities" and knew/did nothing.

Posted by gorb 2007-03-30 11:56|| 2007-03-30 11:56|| Front Page Top

#19 I still can't get over the dozen or so greenhouses that were handed to the Gazaians(?) Paleos with the withdrawal of the Israeli settlements a couple of years ago. So, what did the local dysfunctionals do? They trashed them and stole parts to sell to junk dealers.

Gotta love the part about STEALING SAND in a desert. HAAHAAHHAAAHHAAAA!!!!!!!!

Posted by Almost Anonymous5839">Almost Anonymous5839 2007-03-30 12:04|| 2007-03-30 12:04|| Front Page Top

#20 The Christian thing to do would be to help evacuate Gaza but we don't want to be accused of illegally occupying Muslim lands. Perhaps the neighbors could welcome them like Houston did for Katrina survivors?

Posted by Danielle 2007-03-30 12:15|| 2007-03-30 12:15|| Front Page Top

#21 gotta love karma.

brown foam floating on the green-brown rivers of waste

isn't there a song in there somewhere? Great green gobs of greamy grimy gopher guts....
OMG

Posted by Jan from work 2007-03-30 12:38|| 2007-03-30 12:38|| Front Page Top

#22 ALL of Gaza should be swept away in a tidal wave of sewage.

In our dreams, Mac, only in our dreams.

The pipes that were sold to Zak were intended for the construction of a sewage system in Gaza. The Shin Bet has been unable to determine the amount of metal that actually made its way to the terror organizations, and how much went to the sewage project.

How much went to the sewage project? Ooh, ooh, lemme guess! Howabout, zeer-fucking-oh? Only Africa's tribal despots can remotely compete with the Palestinians for routinely squandering such stupendous amounts of money with so little to show for it afterwards.

The Palestinians' abject refusal to comprehend Cause and Effect makes them a prima facie case in proving Cause and Effect. The profound irony of this is lost solely upon them and their Muslim brethern. For the Palestinians, much like the Iranians, the global community's reaction should be only scorn and hilarious laughter at the puffery and idiocy manifest in their every thought, action and deed.

I have often used the analogy of the cock on the dunghill to describe the Palestinians. That the cock has sunk into the dung is indescribably precious. How often have the Palestinians had free houses built for them, only to use them as sniper outpotsts and had them consequently bulldozed for their troubles? Nonetheless, they have the temerity to go about wringing their hands over their well-deserved homelessness. The Palestinians have worked indefatigueably to turn their turf into a complete shithole. That it is now become one in fact has a sense of poetic justice and fitness that ordinary words simply cannot express with any degree of completeness.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-03-30 14:59|| 2007-03-30 14:59|| Front Page Top

#23 One of the major sanitation issues in Gaza is the raw sewage generated there and how it is disposed of. To the north is the intake for the RO fresh water plant at Ashquelon for Israel. The raw sewage coming off the Gaza Strip will not help this plant.

If the Paleos are going to go on the warpath and be hostile to Israel, then the Oslo Accords will not be valid, and Israel can go ahead and shut down water and power to Gaza. I do not know why they have not started turning off the spigot now. Probably Olmert sez no, being the good liberal that he is.

The collapse of the holding ponds for the raw sewage is just another example of why the Paleos are incapable of governing themselves. This is a human tragedy, all right. It shows what really stupid people, who are purposely kept ignorant, stirred up, and indoctrinated in hate by their Arab taskmasters can do, given 60 years.

Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul 2007-03-30 15:47|| 2007-03-30 15:47|| Front Page Top

#24 How very clever Bruce from MS is. He brings to our attention that the Gaza authorities were informed in 2004 by nothing less than the UN itself that they needed to upgrade their sewage facilities immediately. About which the Gaza authorities clearly did nothing useful (filling in the gaps between non-waterproof sand dunes to form a makeshift sewage swamp is not a useful response)... and he blames US for finding dark humour in the predicted, inevitable, and clearly avoidable result.

Bruce dear, you seem incapable of reading the words your own fingers type. You might want to consider a brain transplant.

Posted by trailing wife 2007-03-30 16:00|| 2007-03-30 16:00|| Front Page Top

#25 Interspersed throughout the many (snark-laden) comments here are many bits of wisdom, that the Paleos, should they ever evolve beyond living in shitty conditions, choose to ruminate over, could actually help them elevate their standard of living. although right now almost anything would be an improvement.
all i can say is that i keep having a mental double-exposure wherein the shit storm that struck the paleos would almost have been funnier if it had happened in New Orleans and then we could listen to ol' Ray bleat. picture, if you will that huge fleet of school busses mired in turds.....

Posted by USN, Ret. 2007-03-30 17:48|| 2007-03-30 17:48|| Front Page Top

#26 Hmmm, not registering on the sympathy meter. I suppose I could 'give a shit', but they seem to be covered in that respect.

Posted by DMFD 2007-03-30 21:16|| 2007-03-30 21:16|| Front Page Top

#27 And Link: HERE is an article from Haaretz about the Israelis sending floating suction pumps to help the Paleos avoid more problems.

Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul 2007-03-30 23:06|| 2007-03-30 23:06|| Front Page Top

#28 And a pic at the Electronic Intifada website showing a building flooded in sewage. Ima gonna write a book about vacationing in the world's most stupid places.

Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul 2007-03-30 23:09|| 2007-03-30 23:09|| Front Page Top

#29 This one says it all , with a pic of the two rescue workers wading through 1 metre + of sewage.

Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul 2007-03-30 23:13|| 2007-03-30 23:13|| Front Page Top

#30 isn't there a song in there somewhere?

I love that muddy water. Ahhhh, Gaza you're my home!

If only Sean had been there to help bail, lives could have been saved.

Posted by KBK 2007-03-30 23:30|| 2007-03-30 23:30|| Front Page Top

#31 Hey Bevis that Gaza is shit holeo...heheheheh... a shit holeo Bevis.. heheheh... heheheeh

Posted by Butt Head 2007-03-30 23:37|| 2007-03-30 23:37|| Front Page Top

#32 Umm Nasser is about 300 yards from the border with Israel, in an area where Palestinians have frequently launched rockets into Israel

The place was litterally awash in terrorists!

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