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2008-03-28 Iraq

Iraqi police in Basra shed their uniforms, kept their rifles and switched sides

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Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2008-03-28 12:45|| || Front Page|| [11132 views ] Top

#1 The freedom to make stupid choices. TV Entertainment in America, lethal in Iraq. That's what civilization is all about.

Posted by Harcourt Jush7795 2008-03-28 13:35|| 2008-03-28 13:35|| Front Page Top

#2 Swine-On-Line, Gloom, Doom and the finest BullSh*t slopped right here.

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Abu Iman, working hand and glove with "Swine on Line"

His response, while swift, was not what British and US military trainers who have spent the past five years schooling the Iraqi security forces would have hoped for. He and 15 of his comrades took off their uniforms, kept their government-issued rifles and went over to the other side without a second thought.

Such turncoats are the thread that could unravel the British Armys policy in southern Iraq..

Abu Iman, If we go back a bit, everyone remembers the fight with the US in Najaf and the damage and defeat we inflicted on them. Do you think the Iraqi Army is better than those armies? We are right and the Government is wrong. [Nouri al] Maliki [the Iraqi Prime Minister] is driving his Government into the ground.

without the slightest pause for an honest breath of oxygen "Swine on line" prints that Lie to glorify doom, gloom and disaster in Iraq.

Posted by RD">RD 2008-03-28 14:15|| 2008-03-28 14:15|| Front Page Top

#3 "everyone remembers the fight with the US in Najaf and the damage and defeat we inflicted on them."

Yes, everyone remembers Najaf and the 50:1 kill ratio. We also remember how the JAM hid in the mosque to keep from being wiped out.

If the Marines ever show up in Basra, Abu Iman better wear an extra set of pampers 'cause 1 might not be enough.

Al

Posted by Frozen Al 2008-03-28 14:49|| 2008-03-28 14:49|| Front Page Top

#4 it's been know for years they the police force in Basra was infiltrated by the militia's and criminals this isn't news, this is the situation resulting from the "go softly" approach the British military leadership has taken.

The solution is to kill anyone seen in the streets with a gun or rpg, it's not rocket science. This same method should apply to Sadar City and any other place the Madi army goes into open revolt.

If police men are caught working for the other side they should be shot on the spot. Loyalty to the elected government needs to be absolute unless it is acting in a criminal fashion.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2008-03-28 15:11|| 2008-03-28 15:11|| Front Page Top

#5 Abu Iman and fellow turncoats are in a world of hurt. It's not like the the gov doesn't know who they are or where they live. Or have 400,000 under arms and a reliable supply line. Be sure to say hello to Uday and Qusay for me.

Posted by ed 2008-03-28 15:26|| 2008-03-28 15:26|| Front Page Top

#6 Why does the Times seem to have exclusive access to insurgents, cutthroats, turncoats, doomsayers and other such miserable skidmarks? Birds of a feather I guess.

Posted by bigjim-ky 2008-03-28 15:48|| 2008-03-28 15:48|| Front Page Top

#7 from what I can gather theyre using Baghdad based units in the lead precisely cause they are aware of this problem

Posted by liberalhawk 2008-03-28 16:06|| 2008-03-28 16:06|| Front Page Top

#8 If I understand this correctly, Maliki has fully committed the government to ending these Shiite militias and to cleaning up the mess left by the British in the south. He has fully engaged Iraqi military and police toward that end. He has asked for and gotten full American support. Yes! There is a God. Maliki could also use our prayers.

Posted by Titus Cloling7944 2008-03-28 16:12|| 2008-03-28 16:12|| Front Page Top

#9 The British went into the situation full of confidence that they "understood Arabs and the Arab way", and sneered at "cowboy" Americans who looked at the situation objectively.

Now we see that the American way of having few preconceived notions and trusting only those who earn that trust has turned out to have been the far wiser tack.

Posted by Anonymoose 2008-03-28 16:36|| 2008-03-28 16:36|| Front Page Top

#10 Well no shit. I guess they arn't police after all. Now you know which side whom is on, adjust appropriately, and kick their butts.

Posted by swksvolFF 2008-03-28 16:53|| 2008-03-28 16:53|| Front Page Top

#11 Count is 79 dead terrs in Baghdad and 25 in Hillah and Kut. 5 Americans and about 15 Iraqis. IP took it on the chin in Kut before rebounding and kicking butt.

Posted by Chuck Simmins">Chuck Simmins 2008-03-28 19:37|| http://northshorejournal.org]">[http://northshorejournal.org] 2008-03-28 19:37|| Front Page Top

#12 Find the turncoat triator quoted int he article. Drumhead court martial. Hang him and the others from a lamppost in the public square - and do not allow them to take him down until the crows have had their fill.

Treason has a price.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-03-28 22:29|| 2008-03-28 22:29|| Front Page Top

#13 "We know the outcome of the fighting in advance because we already defeated the British in the streets of Basra and forced them to withdraw to their base, Abu Iman told The Times."

In other words, like I and many other who know the culture ther said, the Brits are setting themselves up for failure with the "soft" approach.

All the locals learned from that is the Brits leaders are pussies and retreat when challenged.

They are about to learn differently from US and the better Iraqi Army units that will mow these turncoat cops down. Welcome to "boom goes my house" starring the Iraqi troops, US Spotters, and the USAF 500lb JDAM.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-03-28 22:33|| 2008-03-28 22:33|| Front Page Top

#14 OS - good point - "all gringos look/fight alike" may have some consequences :-)

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-03-28 22:44|| 2008-03-28 22:44|| Front Page Top

#15 Keep in mind that it is the Brit command structure and not necessarily the grunt who constitute the problem.

Posted by tipover 2008-03-28 23:58|| 2008-03-28 23:58|| Front Page Top

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