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2009-03-20 Syria-Lebanon-Iran
US Navy: 2 vessels collide in Strait of Hormuz
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Posted by tu3031 2009-03-20 10:46|| || Front Page|| [11128 views ]  Top

#1 http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/mluphoup/turkey_farm.jpg

Adventures in turkey farming.
Posted by Anonymoose 2009-03-20 11:15||   2009-03-20 11:15|| Front Page Top

#2 Oil prices rise after news of Hormuz collision
AP article
Posted by Anon4021 2009-03-20 11:28||   2009-03-20 11:28|| Front Page Top

#3 Oil prices rise after news of Hormuz collision
AP article
Posted by Anon4021 2009-03-20 11:28||   2009-03-20 11:28|| Front Page Top

#4 Should be some openings soon for Navy promotions. You spend your whole life getting a ship command, then just mess up one time and run into another ship (or run into anything, for that matter) and the whole career is shot.
Posted by Glenmore 2009-03-20 12:42||   2009-03-20 12:42|| Front Page Top

#5 mess up one time and ... the whole career is shot.

Too bad that doesn't apply to politicians, too...
Posted by M. Murcek">M. Murcek  2009-03-20 14:03||   2009-03-20 14:03|| Front Page Top

#6 OK USN R'burgers - who hit whom here. The article says the sub was submerged, and both were heading to port (Bahrain? - inbound through the straits?) so where was the FUBAR?
Posted by Halliburton - Mysterious Conspiracy Division 2009-03-20 15:38||   2009-03-20 15:38|| Front Page Top

#7 Too bad that doesn't apply to politicians, too...

No kidding. They usually get re-elected and promoted.
Posted by DarthVader 2009-03-20 16:20||   2009-03-20 16:20|| Front Page Top

#8 Considering that the amphib shouldn't have been able to spot the submarine, I'm thinking blame is going to land right on the sub commander for this. The amphib's captain will prolly still lose his command, but the majority of blame is going to be on the sub commander.
Posted by Silentbrick">Silentbrick  2009-03-20 18:32||   2009-03-20 18:32|| Front Page Top

#9 I'll remind y'all that Submarines work very hard at NOT being detected, I'd chalk this one as a major success. (Sorta)
Posted by Redneck Jim">Redneck Jim  2009-03-20 18:42||   2009-03-20 18:42|| Front Page Top

#10 so where was the FUBAR?

I'd sumrise the sub was using the 'gator as a shadow to mask its signature. Sounds like a matter of either getting too close or a mis-communication before/during maneuvering.
Posted by Pappy 2009-03-20 19:09||   2009-03-20 19:09|| Front Page Top

#11 Drat Pappy - sounds likely, which would put the sub at fault for the assured clear distance rule, yes?. Also, given the fuel spill - would the tank be somewhere aft on the New Orleans?
Posted by Halliburton - Mysterious Conspiracy Division 2009-03-20 20:22||   2009-03-20 20:22|| Front Page Top

#12 No, I don't think it'd be that. Subs have used the shadowing tactic before, using merchants.

The question is whether or not it was a coordinated action that went awry, or that the 'gator was unaware.
Posted by Pappy 2009-03-20 22:18||   2009-03-20 22:18|| Front Page Top

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