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2006-03-17 Home Front: WoT
Witness Tampering Cited in Moussaoui Case
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Posted by Steve 2006-03-17 11:00|| || Front Page|| [11136 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 What this says is American and United conspired with Martin to tank the US case for the death penalty for Moussaoui!

If this is true, it should push the victims' families suit over the top.

And this from two airlines that have been scrounging off the taxpayaers and hiding behind bankruptcy for years. They should be liquidated.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-03-17 11:29||   2006-03-17 11:29|| Front Page Top

#2 And Martin should be investigated for obstruction of justice. How does what Martha Stewart did compare to the actions of the traitor Martin?
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-03-17 11:30||   2006-03-17 11:30|| Front Page Top

#3 How does what Martha Stewart did compare to the actions of the traitor Martin?

They both abused inside information obtained through professional connections. Both of them deserve their respective punishments.
Posted by Zenster 2006-03-17 11:48||   2006-03-17 11:48|| Front Page Top

#4 Wrong, Zenster. The government never made that case against Stewart because they could not make it stick. They convicted her for lying to the sleaze from the FBI.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-03-17 11:55||   2006-03-17 11:55|| Front Page Top

#5 Funny how Stewart took her lumps. Had she been entirely innocent, it would stand to reason that she would have marshalled her considerable resources to fight all charges tooth and nail. She didn't do that. This is a tacit admission of guilt.

And please don't hand me that, "she just wanted to get it over with baloney." Stewart's name is a brand in and of itself. She, of all people, would know its worth and vigorously fight to defend any tarnishing of it if she were fully convinced of her own innocence. I certainly would have done so were it my name involved and similar firepower were within my grasp.

NS, the comments made in your first post remain the most salient. If Martin was a stooge for the airlines, then these industrial parasites need a major spanking. The way large corporations have abandoned their employee benefit programs so they become a taxpayer burden is simply criminal outrageous.
Posted by Zenster 2006-03-17 12:21||   2006-03-17 12:21|| Front Page Top

#6 She was guilty of lying to the FBI, not insider trading. If the governement had a case, they would have made it.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-03-17 12:25||   2006-03-17 12:25|| Front Page Top

#7 Actually, Carla Martin has not gone that far beyond normal witness preparation. What she did wrong was:

- brief witnesses in each other's presence
- send witnesses testimony previously given in court.
- violate a specific court order and,
- used email that was archived and was retrieved

Carla will be facing civil proceedings and maybe even criminal proceedings.

Let's wait to see how she pleads.
Posted by mhw 2006-03-17 13:07||   2006-03-17 13:07|| Front Page Top

#8 It sounds like AMR and UAL should be on the line for co-conspirator and accessory to all those charges.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-03-17 13:38||   2006-03-17 13:38|| Front Page Top

#9 Irrespective of the liability of airlines and airports with repect to potential damages, what does that have to do with Moussaoui's guilt or innocence.

A bank robber cannot be held liable for robbing the bank because the bank had poor security? If I am smart enough to get behind Fred's firewall, it is his problem? Right!
Posted by john">john  2006-03-17 13:52||   2006-03-17 13:52|| Front Page Top

#10 It has nothing to do with his guilt or innocence. He pled guilty. The trial is to determine whether he should get life or be executed.

The problem is the government is talking out of both sides of its mouth in two distinct cases

In the Moussaoui case the government says, If only Moose had told us about the plot we could have saved all those people. So he is as culpable as the 19 who actually killed everybody on 9/11 and should be executed.

In the airline case, the government says, Oh, there's no way we could have detcted the box knives even if we'd known about the plot, so there's no way the airlines can be held liable.

In order to assure that the airlines, for whom Martin no doubt hopes to work after securing her Federal pension, are not held liable, Martin tries to shape the testimony in the Moussaoui trial to protect the airlines contention that nothing could be done. In the process she taints the testimony and jeopardizes the governments chances of executing Moussaoui in order to protect the airlines.

I hope the families take her and the Feds to the cleaners.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-03-17 15:10||   2006-03-17 15:10|| Front Page Top

#11 I hope the families take her and the Feds to the cleaners.

Yes, and I hope that the Feds pay for that settlement out of their own funds instead of taxpayer ones.
Posted by Dreadnought 2006-03-17 15:32||   2006-03-17 15:32|| Front Page Top

#12 All Federal Funds, at one time came from us. so we are going to pay, but i second the motion to have Martin and the airlines' laywers up on charges. Now if it can be shown that they acted without direction from the Feds, then the moneies involved should be from their own pockets and not the fed.
Posted by USN, ret. 2006-03-17 16:08||   2006-03-17 16:08|| Front Page Top

#13 All Federal Funds, at one time came from us.

Glad to see you're paying attention.
Posted by Dreadnought 2006-03-17 17:00||   2006-03-17 17:00|| Front Page Top

#14 I thought we extracted the dough from the poor via tax-osmosis and the lottery.
Posted by 6 2006-03-17 19:19||   2006-03-17 19:19|| Front Page Top

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