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2011-03-16 Africa North

No consensus after UN talks on Libya no-fly zone

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Posted by Fred 2011-03-16 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11128 views ] Top

#1 NObody is going to DO anything no matter how "urgent" it gets.
NATO is going to squat and squeal and Britain and France and Germany and Russia are "going to study the problem." The UN will be as effective as it always is which is less than the Post Office in a blizzard. And Libya is gonna smell like something under the porch.
KaDaffy is gonna win as far as he is concerned because he will still BE there like the Palestinians are still there after they "lose" the wars but still keep their smell.

If you were some soldier being sent into Libya by your govt. what woold YOU be dying for? What's YOUR motivation for going down that Libyan street with your gun locked and loaded? How many aircraft are gonna be needed to patrol Libya and prep it so you dont meet anybody popping caps?
Does ANYbody besides France recognize the Rebel resistance as legitimate enough to deal with in PLACE of KaDAffy?

What's the PLAN for AFTER KaDffy folds? If he cries uncle who gets him? Are you gonna spank him?

NObody is going to do squat. KaDaffy is gonna kill people today, tomorrow and the next day. And NObody is gonna stop him. Obama should give a speech. And the UN and NATO can look at the pretty wallpaper and the Arab League can get its Arab "respect" back in a Turkish toilet.

Its all Bush's fault. Hello, Sailor.

Posted by Dribble2716 2011-03-16 01:22|| 2011-03-16 01:22|| Front Page Top

#2 Hitler Turns East

Stymied in his attempt to invade Britain in 1940, Hitler refocused his attention on opening an eastern front and conquering the Soviet Union. Since the 1920s, he had advocated seeking additional Lebensraum (living space) for the German people in the east. Believing the Slavs and Russians to be racially inferior, Hitler sought to establish a New Order in which German Aryans would control Eastern Europe and use it for their benefit. To prepare the German people for an attack on the Soviets, Hitler unleashed a broad propaganda campaign that focused on the atrocities perpetrated by Stalin's regime and the horrors of Communism.

Posted by Besoeker 2011-03-16 04:51|| 2011-03-16 04:51|| Front Page Top

#3 History is replete with despotic themes such as those highlighte in the Operation Barbarosso excerpt above. I generally look for the themes and patterns. In the end, I doubt anyone would deny, operation Barbarosso saved countless American lives.

Posted by Besoeker 2011-03-16 04:57|| 2011-03-16 04:57|| Front Page Top

#4 Permanent members
China
France
Russia
United Kingdom
United States
Non-permanent members
Bosnia-Hercegovina - until end of 2011
Brazil - until end of 2011
Gabon - until end of 2011
Lebanon - until end of 2011
Nigeria - until end of 2011
Colombia - until end of 2012
Germany - until end of 2012
India - until end of 2012
Portugal - until end of 2012
South Africa - until end of 2012

On substantive issues, 9 votes are required to pass a resolution. What constitutes a substantive is debatable.

I see continued debate for quite awhile. I dont see much national interest by many of these members on the Libyan no-fly decision. Those who do have national interest seem to be hamstrung with regards to decision-making.

Posted by JohnQC 2011-03-16 09:08|| 2011-03-16 09:08|| Front Page Top

#5 The missing item is leadership. The US has none. The scumbag Obama should curl up and die due to what he has allowed to happen passively during his watch, in Iran and in Libya and elsehwere. We have never had a bigger coward in office.

Posted by No I am The Other Beldar 2011-03-16 09:36|| 2011-03-16 09:36|| Front Page Top

#6 Do you really want our skin in this game?

Posted by newc 2011-03-16 10:17|| 2011-03-16 10:17|| Front Page Top

#7 "Our skin" is already in this "game", whether you want it to be or not.

Posted by Pappy 2011-03-16 14:03|| 2011-03-16 14:03|| Front Page Top

#8 Kuwait 1991

President HW Bush allowed Saddam to run back to Baghdad.

That worked out well.

Posted by Skunky Glin**** 2011-03-16 14:51|| 2011-03-16 14:51|| Front Page Top

#9 RUSSIA + GERMANY + TURKEY are repor formally agz the imposition of any NFZ over Libyuh.

* CNN AM Segment > IIRC, repor that the UNSC has instead voted in favor of imposing an ARMS EMBARGO, + ECON/FINANCIAL SANCTIONS agz Gaddafi.

* WORLDTRIBUNE > [NATO]REPORT: [Libyan]NO-FLY ZONE WOULD MEAN DESTROYING 500 TARGETS AT US$1-2.0MILYUN EACH [target], according to NATO's Center for Strategic + Budgetary Assessments.

More difficult + costly than for Saddam + Iraq, NATO must determine iff impos such a NFZ will indir help Gaddafi or not.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2011-03-16 20:52|| 2011-03-16 20:52|| Front Page Top

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