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2006-03-15 China-Japan-Koreas
China to create Aircraft Carrier fleet
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Posted by Anonymoose 2006-03-15 20:58|| || Front Page|| [11135 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 "Wang said the carrier fleet will not be complete for another three to five years."

LOL. They must have a fleet of towed barges in mind.

I can't believe you didn't take the opportunity to fisk this one, Anonymoose. Juicy, LOL.
Posted by Glert Thetch2165 2006-03-15 21:08||   2006-03-15 21:08|| Front Page Top

#2 "Wang said the carrier fleet will not be complete for another three to five years."


Yay so the USN gets to wait for 3-5 years for more target practice. I'm sure they'll appreciate it.
Posted by Valentine 2006-03-15 21:27||   2006-03-15 21:27|| Front Page Top

#3 Will say again that both Russia and China Navies have given priority to boomer and attack sub construction as primary defense against America's CVBG's, with so-called "arsenal ships" as backup. The carriers are there for littoral/area defense, i.e. to escort and protect the subs and amphibs from US air- and LR tactical missle naval strikes, besides of course feel-good "showing the flag" Until such time that China succeeds in overtaking the USA as global hyper-power circa Year 2030 - 2050 but more likely closer to Year 2100, its doubtful the above missions will change for China's PLAN even iff China did decide to busting its budget and build one or a few NIMITZ-sized indigens flattop(s).
Posted by JosephMendiola 2006-03-15 21:51||   2006-03-15 21:51|| Front Page Top

#4 Glert: This one is way beyond me. I think they are going to offend Poseidon himself with this effort. And you know what a beatch he can be when angered.
Posted by Anonymoose 2006-03-15 22:14||   2006-03-15 22:14|| Front Page Top

#5 Yay so the USN gets to wait for 3-5 years for more target practice. I'm sure they'll appreciate it.

Don't be so sure. The US is busy outsourcing software development and computer hardware manufacturing to mainland China. At the same time, the US military is moving to off-the-shelf tech to lower costs. Of course, the Chinese government would NEVER interfere with commercial enterprises in order to achieve a strategic advantage.
Posted by DMFD 2006-03-15 22:22||   2006-03-15 22:22|| Front Page Top

#6 The claim that an aircraft carrier is necessary for coastal defense is absurd.


Russia and China have identical doctrine for naval power, especially naval air power. Defense of coastlines will be accomplished by land based naval aviation.

The aircraft carrier is first and foremost a first strike weapon system.

Posted by badanov 2006-03-15 22:49|| http://www.freefirezone.org/cgi-bin/index.pl]">[http://www.freefirezone.org/cgi-bin/index.pl]  2006-03-15 22:49|| Front Page Top

#7 Lol, Anonymoose! Even if they've purloined 90% from us and/or others in the West, I'm sure you're right. Just having some specs does not make something as complex as a carrier into an efficient machine of war. Imagining them working out the wrinkles in their flight ops generate grizzly flaming death scenes - and trapped pilots going to the bottom - for me...
Posted by Glert Thetch2165 2006-03-15 23:14||   2006-03-15 23:14|| Front Page Top

#8 LOL. They must have a fleet of towed barges in mind.

Actually, it's not that farfetched. And badanov isn't that far off.

It's quite likely that the Chinese CVs would be used more as mobile airfields for rearming and refueling, than as 'aircraft carriers' per se.
Posted by Pappy 2006-03-15 23:16||   2006-03-15 23:16|| Front Page Top

#9 I've seen some documentary stuff about Churchill and Roosevelt seeking a similar solution during WW-II to give air cover the range needed for the convoys. My favorite proffered idea used wood pulp / shavings frozen in ice to create a monstrous floating airfield. It would've been impervious to torpedoes. Heh.
Posted by Glert Thetch2165 2006-03-15 23:23||   2006-03-15 23:23|| Front Page Top

#10 Chinese SST's : spectacular torpedo targets
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-03-15 23:40||   2006-03-15 23:40|| Front Page Top

#11 or STT's ...crap.... PIMF
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-03-15 23:40||   2006-03-15 23:40|| Front Page Top

#12 A couple of posters on FREEREPUBLIC.com, on Russia's = Putin's new desire to build a group of "elite" new submarines, are asking how can Russia can do this with an economy the size of NORWAY, vs size of HOLLAND. Awhile back it was BELGIUM, the nation reported in the 'Burg's articles today about women and children begging alongst its streets. Despite their awesome America-challenging, America-devastating economies. remember its Russia-China whom both say that war against America, and only Amerikkka, is not only desired but preferred, circa 2015-2018, which is roughly consistent wid the US Left's desire to use any means necessary, violent or non-violent, legal or illegal, etc. to force Socialism, Anti-sovereignty, and OWG on America after 2015-2020!? Thanx to eight years of CLintonian Rightism-Capitalism-Free Trade - Republicanism, the Left doesn't have to prove neither the merits or superiority of Leftism-Socialism anymore, forever and eveeer!
Posted by JosephMendiola 2006-03-15 23:57||   2006-03-15 23:57|| Front Page Top

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