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2004-03-08 Iraq-Jordan

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Posted by Dar 2004-03-08 11:07:00 AM|| || Front Page|| [11136 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Islam will be the official religion of the State and will be considered a source of legislation

That sends chills down my spine.
I guess there was just no way to make Iraq secular. I still think Sistani is trouble.

Posted by JerseyMike 2004-3-8 11:43:03 AM|| 2004-3-8 11:43:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 He probably is, but he's the Iraqis problem and not ours. All we can do is give 'em a good start, what they do with it is out of our hands.

I highly advise that they don't make us come back. That would REALLY piss us off.

Posted by mojo 2004-3-8 11:50:26 AM|| 2004-3-8 11:50:26 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Hmmm... not precisely what I'd have liked, particularly about the state religion; but it's not a bad start. Better something like this, anyway, than that pile of ordure passed off as a draft EU Constitution. What was that, 300 pages or thereabouts?

Posted by Dave D. 2004-3-8 11:56:54 AM|| 2004-3-8 11:56:54 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Has anyone read what the status of the US forces will be during Transitional period? What activities can they pursue and what present activities will be forbidden, if any?

Posted by GK 2004-3-8 12:14:57 PM|| 2004-3-8 12:14:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 As a compromise, I don't think the "source of legislation" clause is bad at all. For one thing, it implies that there are other sources of legislation. But the proof will be in the pudding.

Posted by Matt 2004-3-8 12:35:07 PM|| 2004-3-8 12:35:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Reason to chill:here in Finland,the Lutheran church is still the official Church of the State,its status established by law.However,Finnish society has become so secular that the opinion of the clergy has no weight at all in national politics.If the secular parties can overcome the Mullahs at the polls,Iraq will be safe.

Posted by El Id 2004-3-8 12:39:50 PM|| 2004-3-8 12:39:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Full text of Constitution here.

Posted by Dar 2004-3-8 1:28:20 PM|| 2004-3-8 1:28:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Now Bush should invite all the Council to Crawford and show some Texas hospitality. What do you think? Get them out for a vacation, work the room, etc.
One of the main drafters of the constitution is an Iraqi-American lawyer from nearby Valparaiso, Indiana. He was profiled in Chi Trib. A lot of folks have sacrificed much to see this day. Let's give them an opportunity to relax and not have to worry about being shot. Might pay big dividends.

Posted by Michael 2004-3-8 2:37:16 PM|| 2004-3-8 2:37:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Just checked Le Monde website. 3 main stories are: Israel, Aristide, and more money for research budget. Constitution story is on the right just under a story of the travails of a judge. How about BBC?

Liberation has it as a headline.

Posted by Michael 2004-3-8 3:03:09 PM|| 2004-3-8 3:03:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 BBC seems to talk about the delays concerning it and gives some pre-digested 'Q&A' (which doesn't explain anything....) but does not report the actual content itself.

CNN has a link to the actual text (at findlaw).

I think this very good news for the people of Iraq.

Posted by CrazyFool 2004-3-8 3:18:55 PM|| 2004-3-8 3:18:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Yeah, I've been highly critical &pretty down on the Iraqi Constitution. And yet, this is certainly better than I thought it was going to be. It is not, all in all, a bad start. We've gotta wish them well.

Posted by Traveller 2004-3-8 3:59:47 PM|| 2004-3-8 3:59:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Direct link to text from the source: http://www.iraqcoalition.org/government/TAL.html

Posted by RussSchultz 2004-3-8 5:18:58 PM|| 2004-3-8 5:18:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Let's be real. The only reason why Christianity and English are not in the US Constitution is that James Madison could never have envisioned the ACLU in his worst nightmare. I am glad that Islam and Arabic/Kurdish are in the Iraqi constitution so that 200 years down the road the poor citizens of Kirkuk won't have to print their ballots in 20 languages and provide their driver's tests in Farsi. In their schools most of the focus of the curriculum will never become finding an alternative name for Ramadan. I would only wish the future PC conundrum on the Saudis. They deserve it.

Posted by Super Hose 2004-3-8 11:44:57 PM|| 2004-3-8 11:44:57 PM|| Front Page Top

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