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2004-03-08 Afghanistan/South Asia
Group Decries U.S. Actions in Afghanistan
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Posted by Steve White 2004-03-08 00:03|| || Front Page|| [11135 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Must be fund-raising time again...
Posted by Pappy 2004-3-8 12:07:28 AM||   2004-3-8 12:07:28 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Do I get a tote bag? Can't have enough of them.
Posted by tu3031 2004-3-8 12:50:25 AM||   2004-3-8 12:50:25 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 tu, with your donation you also get a HRW rain poncho, a mousepad, one of those letter opener thingies and a VHS tape of "Riverdance"!
Posted by Seafarious  2004-3-8 1:18:49 AM||   2004-3-8 1:18:49 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 The men said they were held awake, exposed to cold and forced to stand for long periods, measures "amounting to torture or other mistreatment in violation of international law,"

Let's see now, when I enlisted in the man's Army right before the SHTF in SE Asia I was stationed at Ft. Hood, Tx, and seem to remember the same treatment. I liked it and thought to myself, "damn these guy's are going to make a man out of me." They did too, let me tell you. I'd like to do it again and become a better man. I guess what I'm trying to say is fuck the Human Rights Watch and all their ilk. Chiner
Posted by Chiner 2004-3-8 4:31:08 AM||   2004-3-8 4:31:08 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 I wonder how many people from "Human Rights Watch" have ever actually been outside the United States and seen how the rest of the world lives. I wonder how many of them have ever read anything that talks about real human rights abuses, like the history of the Soviet Union, or NAZI Germany's behaviors during World War II. I wonder if they have a clue at all how Muslims - especially Arab Muslims - treat Christians and Jews in their countries. Didn't they read about Timor? Haven't they heard about the Sudan?

They have no credibility, and their words have no credibility, until they first complain about the attrocities that occur on a daily basis elsewhere. Until they show they are against ALL "human rights abuses", they'll be lumped in with the rest of the "hate America first, last, and always" crowd that is part of the problem, not part of the solution.
Posted by Old Patriot  2004-3-8 9:20:53 AM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm]  2004-3-8 9:20:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Only countries with 5-Star Hotels are criticized. You can't say they don't have their standards...
Posted by .com 2004-3-8 9:34:48 AM||   2004-3-8 9:34:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Can't we be graded on a curve with the Taliban being a C (and Kim being an F.) I wonder how many prisoners that Dostum has flayed while we have subjected prisoners falled to install heat pumps in our jail cells. Dostum probably doesn't invite the Red Thingy in for a visit, though.
Posted by Super Hose  2004-3-8 11:30:23 AM||   2004-3-8 11:30:23 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 I am probably going to regret saying this, but I think that this is entirely true. However the actions taken by the U.S. Military rarely resemble a ‘criminal investigation’ and look more like a military operation. The reason being is that they ARE military operations. As far as blowing down doors instead of knocking politely. Well that is what SpecOps does when the situation calls for it. Maybe if Human Rights Watch would send someone with them to knock on doors they would not have to blow them open. Human Rights Watch did point out in their article that “Americans are opposed by armed groups which pay little heed to humanitarian law or human rights.” The times they are a changing!
Posted by Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter)  2004-3-8 12:34:31 PM||   2004-3-8 12:34:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Sarge makes a good point. We shouldn't take civilian casualties lightly, even if there's just no getting around the fact that in any war, civilians are going to die. I don't see that changing. However I have a HUGE problem with HRW's coverage. Sure, they point out that we are opposed by groups which pay little attention to humanitarian law...well hell that should be job #1 for those asshats then. Instead, it's a footnote. If civilians die as a result of our action, it's a tragic mistake and we try to learn from it. If the fundos kill civilians, it's a job well done. If HRW can't see the difference, then they should STFU.
Posted by Rex Mundi 2004-3-8 1:25:41 PM||   2004-3-8 1:25:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 If we shaved them all and then hung them in the soccer stadium for being beardless, would we raise our grade?
Posted by Super Hose  2004-3-8 1:45:32 PM||   2004-3-8 1:45:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 RE: #3, Seafarious, is that a real poncho or is that a Sears poncho?
Posted by Xbalanke 2004-3-8 3:05:09 PM||   2004-3-8 3:05:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 When it's fund raising time in Georgia,
Dough raising time in Tennessee,
When all the little saps just keep on rising,
When all the little kerries pick on me.


(Take it AP)

Posted by TheKerryLastBlueYodler 2004-3-8 6:15:46 PM||   2004-3-8 6:15:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 For comparison, maybe these human rights clowns ought to read the Newday article, Iraq Group Gives Example of Militant Rule. The piece describes the conditions that the locals lived under in the are of Kurdistan where Ansar al-Isam held sway.
Posted by Super Hose  2004-3-8 10:55:50 PM||   2004-3-8 10:55:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Perhaps we should apologize profusely and put the Taliban back in charge. That should make the HRW happy. Then the Taliban could get back to killing people with short beards and stoning women who revealed an ankle. And HRW could get back to ignoring atrocities committed by despots.
Posted by A Jackson 2004-3-8 11:22:11 PM||   2004-3-8 11:22:11 PM|| Front Page Top

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