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2007-03-05 Down Under

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Posted by Snuling Gloling9123 2007-03-05 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11127 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 D *** ng it, we're de facto hurting their feelings by not letting them control or destroy us. Clintonian America = Amerika, Hated DEspicable Fascist = Well-Meaning but Errorful Limited Communist, USSA = SSR/USR, etc G ** D**** have to do a btter job of SAVING ISLAM FOR THE ISLAMISTS, besides SAVING SOCIALISM FOR THE SOCIALISTS, LEFTISM FOR LEFTIES, ..............@.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-03-05 00:59|| 2007-03-05 00:59|| Front Page Top

#2 I'm offended that you think I'm easily offended! Behead the infidel!

Posted by muslims 2007-03-05 07:33|| 2007-03-05 07:33|| Front Page Top

#3 The Catholic hierarchy (or some of them, at least) are taking their cue from the Pope in publicly confronting unacceptable Islamic attitudes. And the Australians are taking their cue from the Prime Minister. Such plain speaking triggers changes.

Posted by trailing wife 2007-03-05 07:59|| 2007-03-05 07:59|| Front Page Top

#4 TW:

Couldn't agree more. I believe that this process, though, needs to go through stages. First, confront islam. The reaction, initially, was/will be outrage in the islamic community (cartoons, anyone?). Ultimately, though, consistent, rational confrontational pressure will (should?) trigger muslims themselves to challenge their own assumptions.

The other side of that is what we've been doing, for the most part in the face of muslim anger. Appease. Understand. Accept. Rationalize. Basic psychology says that when a behavior (even unpleasant behavior) is followed by a desired outcome, it is more likely to be repeated. We've done a helluva good job at reinforcing the very behavior we say we hate. Whenever muslims get upset, are offended, demand unreasonable accomodations, etc., we comply. Positive reinforcement. Couldn't get much plainer.

However, if we stop giving in and reinforce more desired responses within the muslim community, we might eventually begin to see more acceptable behavior.

Understand, though, that when you take reinforcement away, it doesn't go peaceably. Think about how we shut a tantruming child up (we give in) vs. how we make the kid more angry (we hold out).

Europe needs a remedial psych class.

Posted by PlanetDan">PlanetDan 2007-03-05 08:39|| 2007-03-05 08:39|| Front Page Top

#5 "Europe needs a remedial psych class."

Amen, Planet Dan.

Posted by Jules 2007-03-05 09:23|| 2007-03-05 09:23|| Front Page Top

#6 MUSLIMS are overly sensitive and are the only migrants who have plotted violence against Australia, Catholic Archbishop Cardinal George Pell has claimed.

Only the migrants? Ever been to one of your own beaches Pell?

Dr Pell said a fear of Muslims had been "created" by the September 11 attacks in 2001, the Bali bombings of 2002 and 2005 and the attacks on London transport in 2005.

What Pell doesn't get it that Islam created the Muslim terrorist simply by teaching Muahammad's own actions. Clue bat Pell.

The rest of his stances are refreshingly right on.

Posted by Icerigger 2007-03-05 12:08|| 2007-03-05 12:08|| Front Page Top

#7 I can kinda sorta understand muslim sensitivity. If I belonged to a culture that produced nothing of value for half a millennium or so, I'd be a little sensitive too.

Posted by SteveS 2007-03-05 12:21|| 2007-03-05 12:21|| Front Page Top

#8 Ratzi's the right man at the right time, hope God gives him enough time to fortify the base.

Posted by anonymous2u 2007-03-05 13:24|| 2007-03-05 13:24|| Front Page Top

#9 Only the migrants? Ever been to one of your own beaches Pell?

Are you saying locals or other migrants are responsible for troubles on the beaches? Maybe I misunderstood what happened on Bondi last year.

Posted by rjschwarz 2007-03-05 14:31|| 2007-03-05 14:31|| Front Page Top

#10 Should've read the article before I posted. Sorry. While what you said is true, Planet Dan, this article is about Australia.

I loved this quote:

"Flexibility and adaptability are called for when refugees and immigrants arrive in our country but there is a limit in (adopting) minority demands beyond which a democratic host society cannot go without losing its identity ."

Posted by Jules 2007-03-05 16:32|| 2007-03-05 16:32|| Front Page Top

#11 I know it's about Australia, Jules. But they seem to get it. Eurabia doesn't. I should have made that clearer.

Posted by PlanetDan">PlanetDan 2007-03-05 17:40|| 2007-03-05 17:40|| Front Page Top

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