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2007-03-04 Europe

Islam Can't Be Reformed, Says Founder of Ex-Muslim Group

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Posted by Fred 2007-03-04 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11136 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Mina will find, like Hirsi Ali has found, that the feminist left has a particular hatred of woman who ask tough questions about Islam and who expose the conditions of the muslimah.

Posted by mhw 2007-03-04 00:26|| 2007-03-04 00:26|| Front Page Top

#2 1. Water is wet.
2. Death is certain.
3. Aids in incurable.
4. The sun is hot.
5. There is no known cure for the common cold.
6. Islam cannot be reformed.

Posted by Besoeker 2007-03-04 05:11|| 2007-03-04 05:11|| Front Page Top

#3 I don't think that Germany is a purely secular state. Church and state are quite separate here, although I'm very critical of religion in Germany.

Religion is a branch of the German government, and has been since the 30 Years War (? is that the one I mean?) when by treaty each principality became exclusively the religion of the reigning prince. Catholic priests, Lutheran ministers, and Jewish rabbis are on the government payroll, and Church buildings and synagogues are maintained at government expense.. and the government informs them what may and may not be said. Registered members of those religions pay an extra tax for this, assessed on the income tax form. This is why the German government is so keen to train up its own mullahs, rather than allow outsiders from the Old Country to handle it. Presumably the situation is the same in France.

Posted by trailing wife 2007-03-04 05:28|| 2007-03-04 05:28|| Front Page Top

#4 If the German government is smart, the ones they train up will be telling their Muzzy congregations that it really IS okay to convert to something else and that they'd be wise to do so before they get deported back to country of ethnic origin.

Posted by mac 2007-03-04 13:13|| 2007-03-04 13:13|| Front Page Top

#5 All of the religious scholars who work out of the politically correct box, believe that the al-Qaeda ideology is identical to that of that proclaimed by the founder of the Muslim murder cult.

Posted by Sneaze 2007-03-04 14:02|| 2007-03-04 14:02|| Front Page Top

#6 Because taqqiya so rightly condemns Islam to a complete lack of credibility, mere reformation will not be enough to salvage it. For the last few years I have maintained that only Radical Reformation can save Islam. If they wish to harbor even the least hope of survival, moderate Muslims must rise up and begin stacking dead jihadis behind their mosques like so much cordwood.

Anything less is highly unlikely to satisfy the West's suspicions. Islam's perfidy has so permeated its reputation that moderation no longer carries sufficient weight to convince an intelligent person of any genuine sincerity whatsoever. A Spanish journalist once said:

After a while, silence is no longer consent. To remain silent is to lie.

The deafening silence of moderate Muslims has forced upon themselves the obligation of pursuing Radical Reformation. That elements within Islam actually exhort or threaten moderates to remain silent only seals their fate. Silence merely allows the jihadis to play for time as they continue steering Islam towards its final destruction. The silence of moderate Muslims has become the lie of taqqiya and its only destination is the silence of the grave.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-03-04 18:22|| 2007-03-04 18:22|| Front Page Top

#7 Zenster:

If Muslims told the truth, they would admit massive support for al-Qaeda. Bin Laden is a clone of the phony "prophet" Mohammad and Muslims hide their belief in the authenticity of the al-Qaeda ideology.

Posted by Sneaze 2007-03-04 22:48|| 2007-03-04 22:48|| Front Page Top

#8 moderate muslims aren't really silent

they cry out to the infidel that their coreligionists don't understand Islam.

Of course they don't dare speak out to these coreligionists because, guess what, jihadists kill people who criticize them

Posted by mhw 2007-03-04 22:59|| 2007-03-04 22:59|| Front Page Top

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