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2009-02-27 Afghanistan
US thinks the unthinkable: asking Iran for help with supply routes
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Posted by Ebboter Omotch6256 2009-02-27 02:23|| || Front Page|| [4 views ]  Top

#1 I'd say it's a toss up which of Russia/central asia, Pakistan and Iran is the least reliable logistics partner.
Posted by phil_b 2009-02-27 08:22||   2009-02-27 08:22|| Front Page Top

#2 Short Round just found the bargaining chip he needed ...
Posted by Steve White 2009-02-27 09:49||   2009-02-27 09:49|| Front Page Top

#3 Note to Barry:

You get in the way, they don't give a flying phuech!

The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a neutral United States Navy technical research ship, USS Liberty, by Israeli jet fighter planes and motor torpedo boats on June 8, 1967, during the Six-Day War. The combined air and sea attack killed 34 and wounded more than 170 crew members, and damaged the ship severely. The ship was in international waters north of the Sinai Peninsula, about 25.5 nautical miles (47.2 km) northwest from the Egyptian city of Arish./em>
Posted by Besoeker 2009-02-27 10:08||   2009-02-27 10:08|| Front Page Top

#4 Keep Your Friends Close ... And Your Enemies Closer.

Posted by William Marcy Tweed 2009-02-27 10:16||   2009-02-27 10:16|| Front Page Top

#5 Insanity! Insanity!
Posted by mojo 2009-02-27 12:13||   2009-02-27 12:13|| Front Page Top

#6 So we're going to give leverage against us to an enemy soon to be armed with nukes so that we can continue to dominate a nation of goatherders.

Brilliant, Barry. Just brilliant. /sarcasm
Posted by Ho Chi Glusoque7625 2009-02-27 12:34||   2009-02-27 12:34|| Front Page Top

#7  Earlier this month President Medvedev said that Moscow was ready for “fully-fledged, comprehensive co-operation” on Afghanistan but went on to imply that its help was contingent on US concessions on NATO expansion and US plans for a missile defense system in Eastern Europe.

So get on with the negations. Russia is not the enemy, Islam is, both Shia and Sunni i.e Islamic countries and groups controlled from either Iran or Saudi Arabia.
Posted by tipper 2009-02-27 13:38||   2009-02-27 13:38|| Front Page Top

#8 Err...negotiations.
Posted by tipper 2009-02-27 13:40||   2009-02-27 13:40|| Front Page Top

#9 NATO spokesmen have been talking about this for weeks. Thus the U.S. has to consider the possibility. I think it's a bloody awful idea, but nobody consults me on important matters.
Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife  2009-02-27 14:01||   2009-02-27 14:01|| Front Page Top

#10 I'm going into suspended animation for four years. Let me know how the negotiations it works out. Forget it, I probably already know.
Posted by JohnQC 2009-02-27 16:57||   2009-02-27 16:57|| Front Page Top

#11 The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a neutral United States Navy technical research ship, USS Liberty, by Israeli jet fighter planes and motor torpedo boats on June 8, 1967, during the Six-Day War. The combined air and sea attack killed 34 and wounded more than 170 crew members, and damaged the ship severely.

As coincidence would have it, while in the Navy I met a sailor (No name or rank please) who was aboard the Liberty, he said the Israelis knew who they were and tried hard o sink them, until two jets at supersonic blasted over the mast and climbed to attack, all of a sudden they were as friendly and helpful as they could be, it's a damn good thing they were because the fighters were recalled (He found this out later)
I trust him, he was there and provided much The Govt has not released. (Hence the no name or rank)
Posted by Redneck Jim">Redneck Jim  2009-02-27 20:18||   2009-02-27 20:18|| Front Page Top

#12 One can pretty much infer what the Iranian terms are going to be, especially when it comes to the western Med.
Posted by Pappy 2009-02-27 22:41||   2009-02-27 22:41|| Front Page Top

#13 Re the Liberty, the Pueblo, etc.:

The AGIs were bastard stepchildren. They didn't fall under direct Naval command, nor were they seconded to any of the Fleet commands. Their reporting chain was quite convoluted. What they did was very much to the distaste of the then-officers-and-gentlemen-don't-read-each-others'-mail naval leadership (kind of like the way close-air support is to the USAF, but more...emphatic). They operated outside of any known naval forces. The Navy also had other indirectly-contributing problems during that era.

Which is why when both the Pueblo and the Liberty were attacked, naval support was either never activated or came quite late. And why any after-action results were low-key or not for general consumption.
Posted by Pappy 2009-02-27 22:50||   2009-02-27 22:50|| Front Page Top

#14 prolly better to let the Klingon govern. She's got bigger balls
Posted by Frank G 2009-02-27 22:50||   2009-02-27 22:50|| Front Page Top

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