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2006-02-13 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by Dan Darling 2006-02-13 03:35|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 What ever happened to the rat that let out the big secret anyway?

Posted by Spairong Elmoluque3235 2006-02-13 08:24|| 2006-02-13 08:24|| Front Page Top

#2 Rep. Jane Harman (Calif.), ranking Democrat on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, and former Senate majority leader Thomas A. Daschle (S.D.) said Republicans are trying to create a political issue over Democrats' concern on the constitutional questions raised by the spying program.

Talk about Orwellian Newspeak. It was the Dems and their fawning agents in the MSM running around like a chicken with its head cut off, that this was a serious breach of the Constitution, that it was illegal, that it was grounds for impeachment. Now that the polls have increased in supporting the program, they now do an about face and claim its the Republicans that are trying to create the storm. No shame. No honor. Just a plain base lust for power by any means possible.

Posted by Angogum Glaith2605 2006-02-13 09:37|| 2006-02-13 09:37|| Front Page Top

#3 Spot-on, AG. Plot another data point on the timeline, then back off and look at the trend of where this behavior eventually leads, whether intentionally or not.

I think I know. I hope I'm wrong, but if I actually thought I was, obviously, I'd think something else, lol.

Something (very) ugly this way comes.

Posted by .com 2006-02-13 09:46|| 2006-02-13 09:46|| Front Page Top

#4 The WSJ editorial last Friday covered this well. Consider that the head judge at FISA "refused" to accept any data collected from (in her mind) tainted sources.

Since when is an unelected (unaccountable) judge get to decide on what is "permissable" in the protection of American citizens?

Dems are merely trying to slice the baloney, per their leader Howie the Duck

Posted by Captain America 2006-02-13 12:13|| 2006-02-13 12:13|| Front Page Top

#5 Harman said: "... Yes, everyone agreed there was WMD in Iraq, but the weight of the [intelligence community's] recommendation was Saddam was contained and he wasn't going to use it.

Except that he wasn't exactly contained, he was able to spend his money and buy a lot of what he wanted. And the containment was destined to fail as the sanctions were going to go away. The French and Russians had been suitably bribed, and they were just waiting to wear the US/UK down. Remember, the only thing the Left got correct was that the only people harmed by the sanctions was the innocent people of Iraq. Mr. Pillar never quite got that.

Posted by Steve White">Steve White 2006-02-13 12:41|| 2006-02-13 12:41|| Front Page Top

#6 "It was the Dems and their fawning agents in the MSM running around like a chicken with its head cut off, that this was a serious breach of the Constitution, that it was illegal, that it was grounds for impeachment. Now that the polls have increased in supporting the program, they now do an about face and claim its the Republicans that are trying to create the storm. No shame. No honor. Just a plain base lust for power by any means possible. "

It may be illegal. It may be a breach of the Constitution. Its almost certainly not impeachable, given that the admin almost certainly thought that it was legal and constitutional. And opposing the failure to A. use the FISA courts and B. To change the law, if the existing FISA law was a problem is NOT the same as opposing the spying itself. It may be wrong, if the admin is correct that the law couldnt be changed without giving away key aspects of the program, but its not the same. All of which needs to be investigated by Spectors commitee.

Posted by liberalhawk 2006-02-13 14:59|| 2006-02-13 14:59|| Front Page Top

#7 The unanswered question however is, are democrats "necessary?"

Posted by Besoeker 2006-02-13 21:53|| 2006-02-13 21:53|| Front Page Top

#8 Harman knew for years yet never voiced her disagreement - political asshole or stupid - you choose

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2006-02-13 22:14|| 2006-02-13 22:14|| Front Page Top

#9 political asshole or stupid - you choose

You forgot option "C" -- "all of the above/Democrat".

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2006-02-13 22:17|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2006-02-13 22:17|| Front Page Top

#10 liberalhawks, you and yours continue to ignor -

One Hundred Seventh Congress

of the

United States of America

AT THE FIRST SESSION

Begun and held at the City of Washington on Wednesday,

the third day of January, two thousand and one

Joint Resolution

To authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against those responsible for the recent attacks launched against the United States.

Whereas, on September 11, 2001, acts of treacherous violence were committed against the United States and its citizens; and

Whereas, such acts render it both necessary and appropriate that the United States exercise its rights to self-defense and to protect United States citizens both at home and abroad; and

Whereas, in light of the threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States posed by these grave acts of violence; and

Whereas, such acts continue to pose an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States; and

Whereas, the President has authority under the Constitution to take action to deter and prevent acts of international terrorism against the United States: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This joint resolution may be cited as the `Authorization for Use of Military Force'.

SEC. 2. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.

(a) IN GENERAL- That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.

(b) War Powers Resolution Requirements-

(1) SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION- Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution.

(2) APPLICABILITY OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS- Nothing in this resolution supercedes any requirement of the War Powers Resolution.

Speaker of the House of Representatives.

Vice President of the United States and

President of the Senate.

Posted by Ebboth Hupuper2982 2006-02-13 23:01|| 2006-02-13 23:01|| Front Page Top

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