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2008-02-28 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by Fred 2008-02-28 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11125 views ] Top

#1 Obama plans to disarm America. McCain needs to hammer this home again and again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl32Y7wDVDs

Posted by Clem Sheck9754 2008-02-28 01:17|| 2008-02-28 01:17|| Front Page Top

#2 MCCAIN himself has reportedly said it will be the Iraqis whom will eventually take charge from the US-Brits of combatting any local insurgency, indic that a MCCAIN ADMIN IS ANTICIPATING INSURGENT/ISLAMIST VIOLENCE TO CONTINUE IN IRAQ-AFGHANI FOR A LONG TIME YET. Iff he hasn't already, Johnny should expect the Dems to hit him on this one.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-02-28 01:20|| 2008-02-28 01:20|| Front Page Top

#3 Obama fired back that he knew AlQ was in Iraq, but that they were there only because of W's invasion.

Well, suppose it's entirely true. Then so what? Would you rather they be scattered throughout the world wherever they choose for their own strategic reasons, or would you rather they be brought to a head at the place of your choice where you can deal with them where they should be dealt with: In their own back yards. I'm sure O's next argument would be that if W hadn't attacked, that they would all have remained innocent cobblers or something. I'm curious how O would have dealt with them. Would he deny their existance or the need to deal with them, or would he just wish them away?

Posted by gorb 2008-02-28 02:31|| 2008-02-28 02:31|| Front Page Top

#4 Keep talking Bamby. Even if McCain was drunk as a Kennedy he'd knock that simpleton retort out of the park.

Obama reminds me of an empty diaper. Looks clean but you know what it is for.

Posted by Icerigger">Icerigger 2008-02-28 06:39|| 2008-02-28 06:39|| Front Page Top

#5 Obama fired back that he knew AlQ was in Iraq, but that they were there only because of W's invasion.

Still doesn't change the fact they're still there now [and making our job easier than chasing them down elsewhere]. And let's remember that Saint F Roosevelt invaded French North Africa where there were no Germans either [and Vichy France was a neutral there being no American declaration of war or authorization to use force]. We ended up fighting Germans eventually though.

Posted by Procopius2k 2008-02-28 08:21|| 2008-02-28 08:21|| Front Page Top

#6 Sen Obama is a victim of his own consultants here (who in turn are the victims of their own rhetoric).

However, he is bright enough that he will be expanding his remarks pretty soon to try to blur the Al Qaeda issue. I wouldn't be surprized to have him schedule a major address on this.

Posted by mhw">mhw 2008-02-28 09:00|| http://hypocrisy-incorporated.blogspot.com/]">[http://hypocrisy-incorporated.blogspot.com/] 2008-02-28 09:00|| Front Page Top

#7 I want these 2 jerks to focus the debate on the issue of amnesty. That's the only place McCain can win votes, and he better wake up and take a stand with one foot on Bush's throat.
No amnesty, no illegals, no NAU.
If McCain fails to be absolutly clear on this issue, then he loses.
And good riddance.

Posted by wxjames 2008-02-28 09:34|| 2008-02-28 09:34|| Front Page Top

#8 Captured Document: Zarqawi in Iraq Long Before the War Started
This is a letter from an Iraqi intelligence officer dated August/7/2002 (7/8/2002 per Iraqi date numbering system) talking about the presence of individuals from Al Qaeda inside Iraq and that they possess multiple passports. The has attached pictures of Ahmad Fadil Nazal AlKhalayla that we know him by his nick name of Zarqawi (Abu Musaab Al Zarqawi) and some other individual.

Page 7 translation:

Secretary 384 7/8/2002

In the name of God the Merciful

From I.M 53/1/5

Document No 513387 per our letter 3077 in 23/6/2002 and in reference to proclamation illegible number numbered 9096 in 8/1/2002. Information are available from a trusted source about the individual existence of illegible word our letter above inside the country and they are accused of dealing with the Al Qaeda organization that is lead by the Saudi Osama Bin Laden and they possess more than one passport. illegible word to the respectful Mr. Director of the apparatus illegible word 515 to direct your sources to track the existence of the people mentioned above within your work domain and inform us in case you prove this 515. illegible words your view to inspect the pictures of those mentioned with the pictures of the Jordanian community with your work domain 535 illegible word tourist hotels, residential apartments, rented homes. Relate the subject illegible words with our boss.

Posted by ed 2008-02-28 09:43|| 2008-02-28 09:43|| Front Page Top

#9 Obama is a stupid f**k if he thinks that reasoning means anything.

Fact is AQ is in Iraq. We are KILLING them there. THey are starting to fail.

McCain is talking about how to deal with the facts that exist, and how to win, something vital for the nation.

Obama, the f**king moron, is ignoring what we must do to deal with the facts at hand, and is instead talking about who to blame, something divisive and counterproductive.

Obama is an asshole.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-02-28 10:37|| 2008-02-28 10:37|| Front Page Top

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Posted by Besoeker 2008-02-28 10:39|| 2008-02-28 10:39|| Front Page Top

#11 Obama wants us out of Iraq so he can use the money we spend there to socialize medicine.

McCain, if he has any smarts at all, should make that clear. Then press the point that most of the honest, hard working Americans would rather have tax relief and a balanced budget than socialized medicine for the fat, lazy, stupid, cigarette smoking degenerates who don't have enough ambition to get a job and get their own health insurance.

Obama is so weak on this issue that it's pathetic.

Maybe that's why McCain thinks he can ignore those of us whom he's alienated by his immigration policies. Smart by very, very cynical. I feel sick to my stomach.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2008-02-28 12:30|| 2008-02-28 12:30|| Front Page Top

#12 I have had concerns about the first debate between McCain and the O -- simply how that looks on camera. Kinda that Kennedy - Nixon thing. Young vs Old.

But after listening to McCain talking to the O yesterday and today, maybe McCain will have his (older) Senator Lloyd Bentsen line that he delivered to (younger) Dan Quayle, "Senator, I served with Jack Kennedy: I knew Jack Kennedy; Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy."

Maybe McCain just might have some war image he can deliver to O on this war stuff..... and the press would have to cover it!

Might not help, however, since Quayle and George HW Bush won that election.

Posted by Sherry">Sherry 2008-02-28 16:28|| 2008-02-28 16:28|| Front Page Top

#13 Sherry - I heard that at the time (God help me, I actually listened to a political "debate"), and my first thought was I wish Quayle would have immediately come back with, "Neither was he."

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