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2005-02-25 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

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Posted by Fred 2005-02-25 00:00:00 AM|| || Front Page|| [11139 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 As with many revolution-formed governments, quite a few of the Iranian senior officers (like Iranian Navy Commander Abbas Mohtaj) were chosen more for their political/religious standing than military prowness. So it's likely there's a materiel/ leadership disadvantage.

However, a war with Iran may be more difficult in that the populace would likely react from a nationalistic sense, even if they despise the mullahs.

Posted by Pappy 2005-02-25 1:20:33 AM|| 2005-02-25 1:20:33 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 yeah..right.

Posted by 2b 2005-02-25 1:53:33 AM|| 2005-02-25 1:53:33 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 but they do have 25,000 splodeydope volunteers who will fight until the reappearance of the 12th imam--so imho they're number one in assymetrical warfare

Posted by SON OF TOLUI 2005-02-25 2:36:17 AM|| 2005-02-25 2:36:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Unless you let them dictate the form of fighting

Posted by gromgoru 2005-02-25 6:34:48 AM|| 2005-02-25 6:34:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Iran would be harder to occupy unless we fought a real war and not a quickie "disperse the formations" war. If we go in there, we need to make the Atlantans feel happy they got Sherman instead of the guys we send to Tehran. Yeah, I'm talking about you, Gen. Mattis.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-02-25 7:21:56 AM|| 2005-02-25 7:21:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 In other news .. water is wet.

Posted by JerseyMike 2005-02-25 8:08:10 AM|| 2005-02-25 8:08:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 I agree with Pappy. Remember in 1941, the Russians rushed to defend Stalin, for Pete's sake, and that was before they knew what Nazi rule meant.

Now, if we can be seen as aiding patriots in a civil war against the mullahs, that would be good. But a straight up invasion would be an effort. Not as much as oh, liberating Europe in 1944-45, but more than Iraq.

Posted by Jackal 2005-02-25 8:36:14 AM|| [http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html] 2005-02-25 8:36:14 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Ditto with Jackal, I agree with Pappy. "Tactical manuever warfare" makes things easier, but there's no substitute for unconditional surrender and total victory, is there?

*grumble-grumbles about the good old days when the media didn't stir about "atrocities" done for TRUE military necessity -- World War II*

Posted by Edward Yee 2005-02-25 9:09:14 AM|| 2005-02-25 9:09:14 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Many Russians, Ukrainians, Belorussians, etc welcomed the Germans until they experienced German brutality and realized the Germans came not to liberate them, but to occupy, colonize, and replace them.

Posted by ed 2005-02-25 9:14:09 AM|| 2005-02-25 9:14:09 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 The cry, "The Yankees are coming" is probably the only card the mad mullahs have left.

I'm learning something from ed and Jackal this morning. Thank you, gentlemen.

Posted by mom 2005-02-25 9:31:12 AM|| 2005-02-25 9:31:12 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 Whats with this invasion nonsense? Iran will be Serbia revisited not Iraq. Rachet up the pain until they cry enough and do whatever is necessary.

Posted by phil_b 2005-02-25 9:52:50 AM|| 2005-02-25 9:52:50 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 In 1941 the Russians didn't rush to fight for Stalin. Some fought for Russia, some fought because the NKVD shot the guys who tried to flee and many welcomed the Germans. But they discovered what Germans had prepared for Russians: a combination of genocide (in order to gain space for the herrensvolk) and reduction to animal condition: as an example the Germans planned to forbid teaching how to read and write to Russians.

At this point Russians realized their mere survival was at stake. Thay also had plenty of people to avenge.

Posted by JFM 2005-02-25 11:38:02 AM|| 2005-02-25 11:38:02 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 JFM: Also Stalin and Beria at that point were smart enough to restore some of the Orthodox Church's old prestige and to use the NKVD's network of seksoti to start spreading rumors of "liberalization" after a successful conclusion of the war.

Posted by 11A5S 2005-02-25 12:29:10 PM|| 2005-02-25 12:29:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 a certain portion of the iranian public will react nationalistically as in any country...but we have more friends there than the msm will admit..

also in regards to russia and WW2..remember the germans were first greeted as liberators..

Posted by Dan 2005-02-25 1:31:30 PM|| 2005-02-25 1:31:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 How do you fit a helmet over a large turban?

Posted by BigEd 2005-02-25 3:20:46 PM|| 2005-02-25 3:20:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 But, watch out for the NAKED PROTEST weapon.
http://www.nakedprotesters.com/

Posted by ITolYouSoLucy 2005-02-25 3:55:40 PM|| 2005-02-25 3:55:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 Do not underestimate Iran. They may not be able to beat the US but they may be able to keep from losing - which is essentially the same thing.

An invasion at this point would be foolhardy. Massive airstrikes and a series of raids to ensure completion of the tasks at hand would be the wise course to take.

The Iranian Badr Brigades are composed of professional troops - closer to the Serb model than the Iraqi. We are not prepared to multi task Iraq and Iran and be prepared for other contingencies within the world.

Posted by JP 2005-02-25 10:29:52 PM|| 2005-02-25 10:29:52 PM|| Front Page Top

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