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2006-02-24 Africa Subsaharan

Bodies burned in open after Nigeria riots kill 146

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Posted by Fred 2006-02-24 09:07|| || Front Page|| [11132 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Good grief, payback's a bee-yatch. Although, I would've hoped the Christians (of which I am one) wouldn't stoop to the muslims' level. Turn the other cheek (on a personal level), but I don't know what I'd do if they'd killed my daughter (as was reported yesterday, several Christian children were murdered in the whole cartoon protest brewhaha). I'm not calling for eye-for-eye at all (in fact, I'd argue against it), but for a country that's more used to tribal warfare, it's understandable this would be the results.

Posted by BA 2006-02-24 09:55|| 2006-02-24 09:55|| Front Page Top

#2 Biafra II is just around the corner.

Posted by 3dc 2006-02-24 10:01|| 2006-02-24 10:01|| Front Page Top

#3 It's easy for us to condemn from over here, we don't have to live with it. Sounds like the Christians tried turning the other cheek for a long time, and when that didn't work they tried something new. How's that saying go? Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results? Something like that.

Posted by BH 2006-02-24 10:08|| 2006-02-24 10:08|| Front Page Top

#4 Its reconquista 2006.

Posted by Ulinelet Spaing9954 2006-02-24 10:23|| 2006-02-24 10:23|| Front Page Top

#5 "We are very happy that this thing is happening so that the north will learn their lesson," said Anthony Umai, a motorcycle taxi rider
Me too, very happy.
BA, turning the other cheek only results in being stabbed in both lungs. There is a time to defend your right to exist. In Nigeria, that time is now. When will it be now in your town ?

Posted by wxjames 2006-02-24 10:27|| 2006-02-24 10:27|| Front Page Top

#6 Good to see that somebody fights back.

Posted by gromgoru 2006-02-24 10:52|| 2006-02-24 10:52|| Front Page Top

#7 I think that "Christian" and "Muslim" have less to do with each other than being "of my tribe" and "of their tribe".

Posted by gromky 2006-02-24 10:54|| 2006-02-24 10:54|| Front Page Top

#8 gromky see:
Wikipedia on Biafra
Biafra History

Movement for the Actualization of the Sovereign State Of Biafra

Posted by 3dc 2006-02-24 11:02|| 2006-02-24 11:02|| Front Page Top

#9 Anyone surprised? They try that over here, and same thing will happen. The Christians have finally said, "Enough!" See punk. See punk run. Cowards.

Posted by Rosemary">Rosemary 2006-02-24 11:05|| http://mynewznideas.blogspot.com]">[http://mynewznideas.blogspot.com] 2006-02-24 11:05|| Front Page Top

#10 WXJ: I probably didn't explain myself clearly enough. I believe that Christ's teaching of turn the other cheek is for PERSONAL use only, not against someone else. In other words, smack me, I turn the other cheek...but smack my wife, daughter or son (or country, for that matter), I'm wide open to immediate retaliation. And, even for my personal use, if I get smacked a 2nd time ("run out of cheeks"), then it's time for retaliation (much like, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me). I think Nigeria has long past turning the other cheek. I was just noting that while I'm glad they smacked the muslims and smacked 'em hard, I don't like seeing the "after-action" of burning the corpses, which in my mind, is a very "tribal" or "muslim" thing to do (remembering how they treated our contractors' bodies in Iraq that one time and how - rightly - angry we were). Like BH says, it's very difficult for us to condemn from over here, but (and this is as a CHRISTIAN, not an American) I don't like seeing that level of brutality anywhere, but especially from my brothers. That is, I don't (as a Christian) feel we should sink to "their level."

Posted by BA 2006-02-24 11:12|| 2006-02-24 11:12|| Front Page Top

#11 Christian youths burned the corpses of Muslims on Thursday on the streets of Onitsha in southeastern Nigeria, the city worst hit by religious riots that have killed at least 146 people across the country in five days. Christian mobs, seeking revenge for the killings of Christians in the north, attacked Muslims with machetes, set fire to them, destroyed their houses and torched mosques in two days of violence in Onitsha, where 93 people died.

I disapprove of the response, but not because the response was retaliation: BA and I agree on the limits of "turn the other cheek". However, "eye-for-eye" NEVER works if the retaliation is not directed at the true perpetrator. As I bolded in the quote above, the muslim killers were in NORTH Nigeria, while the Muslim victims were in SOUTHEAST Nigeria.

"We are very happy that this thing is happening so that the north will learn their lesson," said Anthony Umai, a motorcycle taxi rider, standing close to where Christian youths had piled up the corpses of 10 Muslims and were burning them. Dozens more corpses had been thrown into the back of pick-up trucks by security services overnight, residents said.

There is absolutely zero percent chance of this happening, for several reasons:

1. The dead muslims would certainly have tried to fight back, and happened to lose. The Imams up north would declare them sahids, and state that their biggest problem right now is deciding which of 72 virgins to hump next.

2. Despite the claim that Muslims care for each other, the truth is that such care is mostly verbal, and only displayed when the Muslim speaker in question needs to incite fellow Muslims. Since the attack is not personal, direct, and up close, the Northern Muslims will care about the SouthEastern Muslims as much as they care for the Palestinians.

3. The perpetrators were Christian youths. Other than the locals, nobody really worries about rioting youths. It's when the ADULTS do this stuff that people will start worrying: Adults shoot GUNS. Adults PLAN their attacks. Adults direct the youths to attack where it REALLY HURTS. Adults VOTE and change governments. Adults act on principle and have a greater capability of digging in for the long haul and being a dagger, not a thorn, in one's side. Adults determine if the youths continue rioting or get grabbed by the ear, whupped, and grounded.

Call me back when the Adults start going after the REAL perpetrators.

Posted by Ptah">Ptah 2006-02-24 13:18|| http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]">[http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org] 2006-02-24 13:18|| Front Page Top

#12 Let's see, Muslims feel free to protest over cartoons even though some of them are unrelated and outright fabrications. They destroy the property of individuals and corporations who have absolutely nothing to do with the publication or origin of these cartoons.

However ill-thought-out it may be, it should hardly be much of a surprise if some southern Nigerians have taken it upon themselves to express their dissatisfaction with the way their fellow northern Christians are being raped and slaughtered.

At some point Islam must realize that its collective conduct is setting a defacto standard. When that selfsame standard is returned in kind, it really can't be much of a shock to anyone. In the case of fighting fire with fire, Islam's love of collective punishment, as in 9-11 for US government intervention or burning Danish embassies for the cartoons, will finally come back to haunt them.

Countries forced to intervene and thwart Islamist terrorism will likely be obliged to use collective punishment in order to impress upon the Muslim population as a whole the dire mistake that supporting terrorism represents. This payment in kind will first happen in less restrained countries and slowly expand in scope and usage until major superpowers are forced to obliterate entire Islamic nations at a stroke with each increasingly heinous atrocity. Islam, and Islam alone can change the outcome of this forbidding scenario. No one else is obliged to resolve this issue for them, not that anyone can save this world's Muslim population if they themselves are not motivated to do so.

I fear it will take the vaprization of at least a few Islamic countries before the import of correcting their collective behavior becomes clear. Personally, between 9-11, Bali, Madrid, Beslan, London and Darfur, I am already at the point where even another single atrocity needs some sort of decisive response in kind. The outrageous spectacle of Islamists being handled with kid gloves simply goes beyond the pale.

Posted by Zenster 2006-02-24 16:01|| 2006-02-24 16:01|| Front Page Top

#13 Corpses burnt in religious riots

He said: "We don't want these mosques here anymore. These people are causing all the problems all over the world because they don't fear God."

He angrily scrawled "Muhammad is a man, but Jesus is from above" with a burned stick on a shattered wall.

Posted by john 2006-02-24 18:56|| 2006-02-24 18:56|| Front Page Top

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