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2004-02-18

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Posted by Dan Darling 2004-02-18 12:10:22 AM|| || Front Page|| [11128 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 I agree with Levy, this is just the tip of the iceburg. There is much still to be revealed, such as the billions of dollars that a small group of Pakistani Generals and businessmen have made from smuggling and Heroin trafficing. Some of which went to propping up the Taliban, and some of which went towards sponsoring the Jihad against India. The Gulf Princes and Sheikhs have a similar enterprise operating at a global scale, with the aim of setting up a fascist theocracy with themselves at the top, while the brainwashed cannonfodder are eliminated in Jihads against their enemies.
Beyond Iran, Libya and North Korea, we'll probably find out that the quest for an Islamic bomb was far broader, and I wouldn't be suprised to find out that countries such as Saudi Arabia, Malaysia, Egypt and Indonesia are involved.

Posted by Paul Moloney 2004-2-18 12:41:35 AM|| 2004-2-18 12:41:35 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Egypt? Their press is certainly chalk full of anti-Semitism, but they seem to be far more of a one-party dictatorship than a theocracy to me, especially with Sadat getting knocked off by the jihadis.

Posted by Dan Darling 2004-2-18 12:47:48 AM|| [http://www.regnumcrucis.blogspot.com] 2004-2-18 12:47:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Excellent link Dan, thanks. Think I'll send my Congress-critter an e-mail about that Pakiwaki aid bill.

Posted by Steve White 2004-2-18 12:50:12 AM|| 2004-2-18 12:50:12 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Dan, that's true about their not being a theocracy, I didn't mean that they are involved in the spread of Islamism, but I have read that the Egyptian government has long debated becoming a nuclear power, and there have been unconformed rumors that they have sent scientists to Iran and Libya for training.
Similarly, Malaysia isn't an extremist country, but Mahatir has long championed the idea that their should be a Muslim NATO, and they would probably see an Islamic Bomb as something that would make the Ummah a force to be reckoned with.
That is my speculation anyway.

Posted by Paul Moloney 2004-2-18 1:06:27 AM|| 2004-2-18 1:06:27 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Ah, I thought that you referring to the jihadis because of the references you cited as far as Gulf and Pakistani involvement that we know has gone to further the goals of the International Front.

Posted by Dan Darling 2004-2-18 1:10:26 AM|| [http://www.regnumcrucis.blogspot.com] 2004-2-18 1:10:26 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 That's my fault, I was trying to make 2 unrelated points on similar topics.

Posted by Paul Moloney 2004-2-18 1:17:28 AM|| 2004-2-18 1:17:28 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Kahn sells Pak State Sercrets,makes millions of dollars and is a State Hero.
Ony in the Biazzaro-land of Islam can High Treason be considered heroic.

Posted by Raptor 2004-2-18 6:07:25 AM|| 2004-2-18 6:07:25 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 What makes you think they consider this treason?

Posted by rkb 2004-2-18 7:27:51 AM|| 2004-2-18 7:27:51 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Khan was acting on orders - he's just the agent of Pak military/intelligence (and a disposable one too, in light of his and his wife's "heart attacks"). What is incredible to me is that this huge network went on without (apparently) our knowledge. Is the CIA that incompetent or is there another game afoot?

Posted by Spot 2004-2-18 8:51:38 AM|| 2004-2-18 8:51:38 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 Couldn't he have sold Amway or something? The guy is to serial proliferation what John Wayne Gacey was to inner-city population control. I expect that Khan still has flyers posted on phone poles throughout the world - you know the kind with the little phone number tabs you can seperate and tear away.

Posted by Super Hose 2004-2-18 8:59:10 AM|| 2004-2-18 8:59:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 rkb - I agree with you. I also agree with what others have said above, but I see it in a different light.

It's important to notice that even though this piece is full of good information- it is, at it's heart, just another Blame Bush piece. It's all Bush's fault you see, because ..."The eyes of the world, emulating the eyes of America, were fixed on Baghdad, while the tentacles of nuclear proliferation were being extended from Karachi." and "a world of crime and dirty war that the West, mired in a big game that is beginning to get ahead of it, has so blithely allowed to develop. "

Surely the author isn't sooo ignorant that he believes that he, alone, was aware of this threat. Considering what has come to light recently, does he really expect us to believe that Bush and his cowboys were just gosh dern clueless about this whole dagburn mess.

And what does he think we should have done to end this nightmare?? Ask for another UN resolution or send a terse memo to Musharraf. Hello - done that! Maybe he has a better plan - but right now it looks like he must have been living under a rock not to understand that Bush is keenly aware of this threat.

This author is incapable of seeing any logic in stopping Sadaam's assistance in Iraq, getting a military foothold in the ME and disrupting AQ footholds. Apparently these are just happy diversions distracting from the "real threat". "Those silly Americans have been too busy bogged down in Iraq to notice the big picture".

What I see in this piece is a Frenchman who is being forced to admit that Bush didn't lie. That there is an active nuclear (WMD) program, and that there is an axis of evil. Finding himself incapable of acknowledging this, he makes a clumsy attempt to discredit American successes in exposing diffusing the threat.

His attempt to simply dismiss all that has been accomplished by pointing out that Bush didn't name Pakistan in his axis of evil - is IMHO, shallow, stupid, small sighted and petty.

Oh and one more thing:
Shouldn't there be some kind of DUH! Award to give the author for this statement???
"And at last, sooner or later, we will come to the real secret: that of al Qaeda; and of Khanâs links to Lashkar-e-Toiba, the fundamentalist terrorist group at the heart of al Qaeda;"

Call me cynical, but I think we have just received a sneak preview of how the American-Bashers plan to spin increasingly obvious fact that, "Bush didn't lie".

If he thinks he is the first to observe this threat than he is an ass and should be ignored. However, I guess I shouldn't be so harsh, after all, what he did say was that he was "the first French observer , to my knowledge, to have tried to alert public opinion to the extreme gravity of the situation. Maybe I should give him that.

Posted by B 2004-2-18 9:30:42 AM|| 2004-2-18 9:30:42 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 B, interesting thoughts--the French either think the guy's a total neo-con whackjob or if they believe him, that Bush named the wrong countries to the Axis of Evil.
Screw the Bush and America bashers--Reality will take care of them.
Sometimes someone has to be the messenger and in the present case, that's Bernard-LÃ©vy.
Sadly, very few are as smart as the RB Army of Steve and Axis of EFL members.
How many will read even the WSJ?
Don't forget the last part of the piece: we all need to do whatever it takes to stop Congress from giving Perv that $3 billion in aid particularly in light of this:
Pakistani leader rejects nuclear inspections, promises missile test
[Warning: it's from AFP, so you know what they're about.]

Posted by Jennie Taliaferro 2004-2-18 12:11:35 PM|| [http://www.greatestjeneration.com] 2004-2-18 12:11:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 B 2004 is absolutely right on this. I wrote the WSJ a similar comment yesterday. The claim that we have not been aware of this is absurd. Our actions in Libya, which were a direct result of our knowledge of this network, are proof that we have been on the case for some time. Just because the press becomes aware of something does not mean that the intelligence community has not been aware of it for a whole lot longer.

Posted by remote man 2004-2-18 12:49:37 PM|| 2004-2-18 12:49:37 PM|| Front Page Top

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