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2005-02-15 Afghanistan/South Asia
21st century will be the century of Islam
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Posted by Fred 2005-02-15 00:00:00|| || Front Page|| [11136 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 I wonder how many grade 10 science books he has in his collection. Methinks not a lot.
Posted by phil_b 2005-02-15 4:45:25 AM||   2005-02-15 4:45:25 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 I wish I was able to see 14 centuries into the future like that.

LOL!

I want to know whether he thinks the 20th Century was the Century of Nazism or Communism.
Posted by Bulldog  2005-02-15 4:59:51 AM||   2005-02-15 4:59:51 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 If all he talks about, all he reads, all he knows about is Islam, sure, the 21st century will be about Islam.
Posted by Thinens Unomotch9553 2005-02-15 7:43:00 AM||   2005-02-15 7:43:00 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Oh Fred! That "14 centuries into the future" line is priceless.

I, too, predict the 21st century will be important to Islam; either as the era when Islam undergoes a reformation and gets its collective act together or as the era when Islam becomes extinct.
Posted by SteveS 2005-02-15 8:06:15 AM||   2005-02-15 8:06:15 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 i bet there are alot of hindu's buddhist christians and another 100 other religions that diagree with him
Posted by Thraing Hupoluper1864 2005-02-15 8:30:28 AM||   2005-02-15 8:30:28 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 One can forsee many things happening to Islam in the 21st Century. First and foremost, a 'Reformation', with several components: a reduction of sectarianism, based on increased exposure to different facets of Islam by Moslems; the elimination of repugnant cultural traits masking as religion (perhaps like Vatican II); and efforts to soften the ethnic clashes that hide behind sectarianism, primarily the Arab-Indo European clash. Second, through the renewed economic revitalization of the Mid-East that comes with democracy and reform, and possibly the formation of a Moslem Common Market, will come an inevitable modernization and secularization of government and culture, resulting in a growing Moslem middle class. And third, secularism itself, leading to a tolerance and acceptance of other religions and beliefs. All together, this might lead to the 21st Century being "The Century of Islam", as least as far as Islam would receive The Most Improved In Class award.
Posted by Anonymoose 2005-02-15 9:15:02 AM||   2005-02-15 9:15:02 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 With the exception of Venezuela, we already have a Moslem Common Market -- it's called "OPEC".
Posted by Tom 2005-02-15 9:24:24 AM||   2005-02-15 9:24:24 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 #6-And they had so wanted a nomination for most likely to crash and burn...

I am joshing. I think you and SteveS make good points. I hope that Muslims are capable of reforming the religion; I just have my doubts.
Posted by Jules 187 2005-02-15 9:28:08 AM||   2005-02-15 9:28:08 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Jules 187---Islam will be reformed. If it isn't done within, then it will be done externally, and not by choice.
Posted by Alaska Paul  2005-02-15 9:54:42 AM||   2005-02-15 9:54:42 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 â€œcivilizations never clash but they move parallel to each other.”

Just what the heck does that mean? Aside from the fact that it's meaningless, I mean.
Posted by growler 2005-02-15 10:15:19 AM||   2005-02-15 10:15:19 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 AP...if they don't do it themselves, yes-and that should give them some incentive. With the Sunni voting model to gauge it by (where Sunni Muslims in Iraq had a chance, a choice, and did not seize it), I am thinking they will not seize this opportunity, instead opting for "delay, resist, obfuscate". It then becomes a bloody, long war, like the religious wars of Europe, but in this case, truly earning the title of a world war.
Posted by Jules 187 2005-02-15 10:15:26 AM||   2005-02-15 10:15:26 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 Actually, I think the notion that civilizations don't clash was once marginally true. Obviously there were conquests which would have it no other way, but where conquest was not the point, then they could, indeed, "glance" off and continue on their merry way. But that was a long time ago - this guy missed the memo.

Now the world is very small, indeed. There is no where to go that doesn't lead to a confrontation with an existing society - so this is juicy rationalization for the current a priori aggressor ideology.

Posted by .com 2005-02-15 10:49:41 AM||   2005-02-15 10:49:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 What if the rise of militant Islam is the reformation?
Posted by SR71 2005-02-15 12:13:57 PM||   2005-02-15 12:13:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 SR71, I understand where you're coming from but... no. It is anti-reformation. Already happened once, in 12th century. The reformation was represented by thinkers like Ibn Rushd, or Ibn Sina. The anti-reformation (fundies that wanted to return to 7th century modus vivendi) won and precipitated centuries of decline of Islamic civilization.

You can's apply the X-tian context here.
Posted by Sobiesky 2005-02-15 12:26:05 PM||   2005-02-15 12:26:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Don Sensing has a post up on this topic today.

This idea of some Islamic reformation is so much whistling past the graveyard. If there is one, it will come about only after they find out the rest of the world will not tolerate the kind of behavior that has become the norm in the middle east.

Our problem is with the arabs, particularly the ones that hang around the Saud tribe, not Islam. I had no problem with Indonesia or its practice of Islam until the Wahabbis got there. Islam does not need reformation, Wahabbis need exterpation.
Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-02-15 12:39:38 PM||   2005-02-15 12:39:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 Sobiesky - I hope that you are right, but I fear that Mrs. Davis is right.
Posted by SR71 2005-02-15 1:32:59 PM||   2005-02-15 1:32:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 SR71, we're both right. :-)
We just cover different aspects of the issue.
Posted by Sobiesky 2005-02-15 1:39:30 PM||   2005-02-15 1:39:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Obviously this guy never heard of the whole "Mogul Emperors" thing, huh?
Posted by mojo  2005-02-15 2:40:35 PM||   2005-02-15 2:40:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 If they succede in converting the whole world, where will they get their slaves from?
Posted by Mark E. 2005-02-15 3:00:51 PM||   2005-02-15 3:00:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 non- master race Arabs. See Sudan for example
Posted by Frank G  2005-02-15 3:03:52 PM||   2005-02-15 3:03:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 ...and soon it will be "The Summer of George"!
Posted by G. Costanza 2005-02-15 3:26:35 PM||   2005-02-15 3:26:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 I do miss THE FAR SIDE.
Posted by JosephMendiola  2005-02-15 9:51:10 PM|| [http://n/a]  2005-02-15 9:51:10 PM|| Front Page Top

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