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2005-02-11 China-Japan-Koreas

Pyongyang statement prompts call for talks

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Posted by Steve White 2005-02-11 00:00:00|| || Front Page|| [11138 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 "I don't think the North Koreans are suicidal."
No, homicidal is more like it. They're armed to the teeth at the DMZ, they're investing what little they have into nukes rather than food production, they have to sell missiles hidden in ships under bags of cement to earn foreign money, they are running a gulag, and they rattle their saber at a superpower that has them outgunned with nukes by a thousands-to-one ratio.

Posted by Tom 2005-02-11 12:21:48 AM|| 2005-02-11 12:21:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Hmmmm....a sea blockade in order perhaps?

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-02-11 12:56:00 AM|| 2005-02-11 12:56:00 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 a sea blockade AND the threat of a well armed Japan, perhaps? That would get the Chicoms interested in the situation.

Posted by SteveS 2005-02-11 1:14:32 AM|| 2005-02-11 1:14:32 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 China will break any blockade. Even to the point of letting NK nuclear technology, missles and drugs be transported across their borders I am sure.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2005-02-11 2:06:45 AM|| [http://www.slhess.com] 2005-02-11 2:06:45 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 --Even to the point of letting NK nuclear technology, missles and drugs be transported across their borders I am sure.---

And taking their cut.

Anyone read Bros Judd and/or Econopundit???

Smart money is leaving China.

Posted by anonymous2u 2005-02-11 3:09:10 PM|| 2005-02-11 3:09:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Something I've never understood. China would like to dominate the region economically and politically, if not militarially. US forces in Korea and in Japan prevent this. We are still there because of North Korea, mostly.

If the Nork regiem fell and reunited with the South, that reason would vanish. Majority of our troops would leave, with maybe a few caretaker groups left at a small number of bases.
Benefit - China.
The South Korean economey would be dragged down, much like Germany while they rebuilt the infrastructure, leaving little left for a Korean military.
Benefit - China.
Peaceful, united Korea could be trading partner, not a source of illegal immigration.
Benefit - China.
The Nork threat to Japan would go away, removing a reason for increased Japanese military expansion and spending.
Benefit - China.

So, why keep supporting crazy Kimmie? Can't be just because of comrade-ship, North Korea is more of a personality cult than it is a communist state. Plus, the Chinese look down at any one who's not Chinese. I can't believe they wouldn't sell them down the river if they thought it would not help China. Anyone got an answer?

Posted by Steve 2005-02-11 3:25:51 PM|| 2005-02-11 3:25:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 possible answers steve - 1. they really, really dont trust Japan - ergo they think Japan might rearm with Nkor as provocation, and therefore prefer NKor as buffer, ally, troublemaker to deter Japan.
2. They dont think the Skors could magically walk in and restore order if Kimmie goes down. Chaos, refugees to China, danger.
3. Prestige - everybody from VN to Burma to Malaysia to Pakland to Iran knows China is Nkors pal. Turn on them, and you lose a lot of cred. "He may be a jerk, but hes OUR jerk"

Which doesnt mean that they wouldnt turn on Kim if he gets out of hand, which is why this latest move is a very dangerous game.

Posted by Liberalhawk 2005-02-11 3:51:19 PM|| 2005-02-11 3:51:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 In the long-term a unified Korea is more of a threat to China and US troops keep out the sons of Nipon.

Posted by Shipman 2005-02-11 5:43:41 PM|| 2005-02-11 5:43:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 China won't be worried because any NK nukes will be de facto controlled by anyone except Norkies, like it was for the Warsaw Pact nations during the Cold War, and even iff NK did not develop any indig nukes, the other Commie states will always be ready to supply her with nukes. By definition these anti-US nations whom plan to engage in aymmetric or fourth generation warfare ags US/Allied milfors are weak andor in steady decline - when one adds the regional ambitions of China, Russia, or other more vibrant regional states, NK must realize it has likely little to no hope of ever achieving its own NorCom-specific "manifest destiny"! And as long as they stay true to Communism, Solyent Green, etc. and implosion looms in their future - their ONLY hope to preclude failure and implosion while NOT giving up Communism is to wilfully allow their minor nations to be used as PC, geopol/
geostrategic "cannon fodder" in order to help destabilize and suborn the USA and West to Socialism and Communist World Order/OWG! The Commies are waging a GLOBAL [PSEUDO-] WAR ags the USA BUT WANT THE USA PER SE TO BECOME BOGGED DOWN IN FIGHTING VARIABLE, EXPENSIVE, REGIONAL "LIMITED" CONFLICTS - the anti-US International Lefts are UNITED AGAINST AMERICA, but don't want their real target America, and by extens the Western democracies, to be. WATCH THE RUSSIAN-CHICOM MILEXS CLOSELY - we don't want any Airborne Forces transports to "get lost", "mistaking" NK or TW for Canada and NORAM, since under CLINTONISM Fascist-Rightist America = Fascist-Rightist Russia-China, ergo just as Fascist America made a Left-argued "MISTAKE" invading Iraq and Afghanistan, "Fascist" Russia-China can also make a "MISTAKE" mil invading Canada/NORAM while searching for Terrorists ala BESLAN(S), vv dialecticism and Totalitarian [Geopol]Equalism.

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