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2005-02-11 Iraq-Jordan

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Posted by Zhang Fei 2005-02-11 2:09:07 PM|| || Front Page|| [11133 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Clear him and return him to duty (facts permitting). The "enlisted man" should get his name known

Posted by Frank G 2005-02-11 2:38:30 PM|| 2005-02-11 2:38:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Wow ! If it happened like the mother said, this marine is getting the true shaft. But, I will need to see more info before I have an opinion.
But, if it is as told in the above post, I will be visiting defendthedefenders.org and trying to help out.

Posted by Bill Clinton 2005-02-11 2:38:48 PM|| 2005-02-11 2:38:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 2d Lt. Pantano seems to have gooten the misfortune of a troublemaker in his command. Return Pantano to duty, and transfer the troublemaker to Northeast Alaska. Assign him to prevent Caribou from invading over the Yukon border...

Posted by BigEd 2005-02-11 2:42:17 PM|| 2005-02-11 2:42:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 HAH, this is just the JAG going by the numbers, before they drop it. Aint no way this goes to a court martial. They will lose, and they must know that.

Posted by Jimbo19 2005-02-11 2:54:55 PM|| 2005-02-11 2:54:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 In some cases,the Marine corps conducts these proceedings to protect Marines from later civil action.Sounds cut a dried to me,if the story is true.He will get off,in that case.Seen similar actions in Nam in 1965.

Posted by crazyhorse 2005-02-11 3:23:03 PM|| 2005-02-11 3:23:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 BigEd---NE Alaska. If you want to put a guy in Alaska for punishment, have him do some kind of menial duty at Shema, on the end of the Aleutian Chain. I met the manager of the Shemya airport on a trip from Seattle to Anchorage. It is bleak weatherwise and scenerywise.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2005-02-11 3:44:25 PM|| 2005-02-11 3:44:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 In some cases,the Marine corps conducts these proceedings to protect Marines from later civil action

Bingo.

Posted by true nuff 2005-02-11 3:54:15 PM|| 2005-02-11 3:54:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 crazyhorse - you were there when Lt. Kerry chased down the wounded VC and shot him? ;-> If this guy gets the shaft, should Kerry be brought up on charges? Oh, no.... That's right - Jimmy gave him amnesty. I sure hope Jimbo is right. My son is in Iraq right now.

Posted by Bobby 2005-02-11 3:55:43 PM|| 2005-02-11 3:55:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Kerry is being punished by his marrige to Teresssssa.
BTW:I was outa there by 1966.I think you are correct about Jimmy,however.

Posted by crazyhorse 2005-02-11 4:39:43 PM|| 2005-02-11 4:39:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 If a violation is suspected, unlike civil society, the incident must be reported and acted upon. Under the UCMJ, Art. 78. Accessory after the fact

Any person subject to this chapter who, knowing that an offense punishable by this chapter has been committed, receives, comforts, or assists the offender in order to hinder or prevent his apprehension, trial, or punishment shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

So once reported, the incident has to be investigated, ergo the Article 32 inquiry. [BTW, this is also the basis of the 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' policy. By law, the UCMJ, if you know you must tell.]

Posted by Ebbavith Gleack2775 2005-02-11 5:02:02 PM|| 2005-02-11 5:02:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Alaska Paul- I had a cousin who was stationed on a base in the Aleutians in a clinic as a physical therapist. Interesting "climate incident" stories, that would freez ones b---s off if you get my drift.

After that being stationed in Guam was better to her liking...

Your Idea may have merit now that I think of it.

Posted by BigEd 2005-02-11 5:37:42 PM|| 2005-02-11 5:37:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Bobby, those were my thoughts. A Marine gets the works for shooting a wounded terrorist in a moaque. John Kerry gets the Silver Star for shooting a wounded VC. This Marine gets arrested for murder for shooting during a very tense situation. Go figure.

Posted by Deacon Blues 2005-02-11 6:12:04 PM|| 2005-02-11 6:12:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 This Marine showed the character traits that those of us in the military hope for and expect of those in command. He reported the incident to his Chain of Command and was cleared, he made a hard decision in a split second and then went to face the music. This is why he is getting the shaft.

He could have done what Kerry did and put himself in for a medal. Once you have a medal for an incident it is very difficult to take it away. But he had moral strength and is honest.

Posted by Angash Flalet3755 2005-02-11 8:17:54 PM|| 2005-02-11 8:17:54 PM|| Front Page Top

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