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2004-02-11 Europe

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Posted by Steve 2004-02-11 9:44:58 AM|| || Front Page|| [11134 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 I take it they're within range?

Posted by tu3031 2004-2-11 9:49:53 AM|| 2004-2-11 9:49:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Bout time they were concerned. The more eyes on the Pak nuks, the better I feel.

Posted by Dogsbody 2004-2-11 10:24:36 AM|| 2004-2-11 10:24:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 According to a report in The News, these European members of the IAEA (International Atomic Energy Agency) apex board wanted to raise in the UN Security Council what they described as the core question: "Whether a country incapable of guarding nuclear secrets can be trusted with nuclear weapons".

What happens if they decide that the answer is no? Is Chirac going to package a frown and send it Musharraf's way?

They pleaded that multi-lateralism, which was the cardinal principle of the "EU Strategy against the Proliferation of Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMDs)", should be put to practice with its full force in the context of Pakistanâs nuclear programme.

And how much bite would their application of "full force" have? Not much, I would suspect.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-2-11 10:56:46 AM|| 2004-2-11 10:56:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Diplospeak translation: We (the Board of the IAEA) have completely failed our mission, and are informing the Security Council that the Americans are now running the whole nuclear show. Resignations to follow, ~~once the Riviera winter cocktail party circuit wraps up~~.

Posted by john 2004-2-11 11:12:41 AM|| 2004-2-11 11:12:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Hey no big deal. The article states "Some European countries."

Posted by Lucky 2004-2-11 11:48:30 AM|| 2004-2-11 11:48:30 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Belmont Club has up the World's Scariest Posts on this issue (nuclear proliferation), and they're pretty convincing. We're past talking.

Posted by Matt 2004-2-11 12:29:33 PM|| 2004-2-11 12:29:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Well, as much as the administration has made a botch of things they do have a point. If being nice with non-proliferation doesn't get results, what do you intend to do about it besides get tough?

Posted by Hiryu 2004-2-11 1:08:36 PM|| 2004-2-11 1:08:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Hell,all the EU has to do is grow a pair.Both England and France have Nukes.And I pretty certain a hell'va better ability to deliver them.
Alot more population.
Certainly more industrial capacity.
Tell the Pakis to give-up the nukes,or take them by force.

Posted by Raptor 2004-2-11 2:37:08 PM|| 2004-2-11 2:37:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Totally agree with Matt.

The recent posts at the Belmont Club are terrifying.

Why? Because the logic is clear, simple and chilling. The same logic was followed in the Cold War where Megadeaths, MAD and 'Sunday Punch' were clinically studied by the RAND corporation and others.

You follow the arguments and the conclusions become apparent.

What are they? Essentially, if Islam gets nukes on a 'regular' basis (from a bazaar or the Paks) then the West (essentially the US) has no choice - after the *first* nuclear detonation the logical thing to do is to eliminate the entire Islamic world.

Read "The Three Conjectures" at the Belmont Club for more details.

Pakistan has let a genie out of the bottle. All bets are off - I don't think that the vast majority of people understand what a truly dangerous situation we're in now.

Posted by Tony (UK) 2004-2-11 6:55:19 PM|| 2004-2-11 6:55:19 PM|| Front Page Top

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