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2023-02-09 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia

Ukrainian Perspective: Invasion of Ukraine: February 8th, 2023

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Posted by badanov 2023-02-09 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11129 views ] Top

#1 Yesterday a reader commented: Russian Perspective: Ukrainians have started using chemical weapons and bragging about it over social media. Dropping nerve agents from drones.

Having seen the video, I explained to him that the "nerve gas" is clearly a VOG fragmentation grenade. Today, in the grand Russian tradition of accusing your enemies of doing what you are doing, some Russians released a video of them dropping a banned chemical gas grenade. The chemical is CS gas, but still banned by treaty.

The Russians are violating the chemical weapons convention (OPCW) by using riot-control agent as a method of warfare. On this video they're using K-51 grenade.

Posted by Thruter Gloluger6393 2023-02-09 06:50|| 2023-02-09 06:50|| Front Page Top

#2 At least 31 vehicles lost - the aftermath of the Russian attack on Vuhledar, #Donetsk Oblast.
13 Russian tanks (mostly T-72B3), 12 BMP-1/BMP-2 infantry fighting vehicles, 2 MT-LB, an IMR combat engineering vehicle and others were destroyed or damaged and abandoned

Posted by Thruter Gloluger6393 2023-02-09 08:04|| 2023-02-09 08:04|| Front Page Top

#3 The videos of Kreminna are now pouring in and they point to another Russian failure.

Click on the Targum video translation for English subtitles.

Posted by Thruter Gloluger6393 2023-02-09 08:23|| 2023-02-09 08:23|| Front Page Top

#4 Hi @Thruter Gloluger6393

The russian went into convulsions. Is that normal for frag?

So you saw a sticker, brand, an identifier. So tell me does a label change the payload? So you must be under the impression that they will label it Nerve Agent and give it the orange biological weapons icon?

Again I ask. Did you see the soldier go into convulsions and drown. Are seizures, is that expected behavior from a Frag Grenade? Explain the convulsions and seizures from a frag grenade to dear readers b/c I dont get it.

So the Russians released a video of them using a banned weapon. K51 = CS17 Gas = so you mean tear f'ing gas. You are a joker. Tell all the cops and ex-cops on Rantburg that they deserve to be marched to the Hague for War Crimes.

Posted by mossomo 2023-02-09 14:14|| 2023-02-09 14:14|| Front Page Top

#5 RUS POV:

BBC: Borrowed time for Bakhmut as Russians close in.

CNBC: Russian forces are closing in on the strategic city of Bakhmut, giving Ukraine a tough choice to make.

NBC News: Ukraine's Bakhmut almost surrounded as Russia pushes for a bloody victory
Surrounded on three sides.

Financial Times: Battle of Bakhmut nears tipping point as Russia intensifies offensive.

Posted by mossomo 2023-02-09 14:35|| 2023-02-09 14:35|| Front Page Top

#6 Bakhmut-

at this point strategically of almost no value

but for Russia - they are willing to sacrifice thousands and thousands of soldiers to get it

Posted by lord garth 2023-02-09 16:57|| 2023-02-09 16:57|| Front Page Top

#7 Really, Mossomo. Is that the fairy tale you are sticking to? Did you really watch the video? He was already drowning and flailing BEFORE the VOG grenade was dropped (and clearly a fragmentation grenade, not a gas or liquid dispenser). He was already wounded and with the heavy wet gear unable to raise his head above the water. Cause before effect, not the other way around.

So the Russians released a video of them using a banned weapon. K51 = CS17 Gas = so you mean tear f'ing gas. You are a joker.

What part of BANNED weapons do you not understand? And the Russians were stupid enough to video brag about it. Are you Rantburg's Whoopi Goldberg? It was only rape, not rape-rape. You can lend your expert testimony at the Hague war crimes trial.

Posted by Thruter Gloluger6393 2023-02-09 19:45|| 2023-02-09 19:45|| Front Page Top

#8 Bakhmut- but for Russia - they are willing to sacrifice thousands and thousands of soldiers to get it

Wagner is no longer able to recruit cannon fodder from Russian prisons. They have already sacrificed 75% of that force and have little steam left. The Russian army is unwilling to support them and Prigozhin should avoid high windows at all costs.

Expect the Ukrainians gradually counterattacking and rolling them back.

Posted by Thruter Gloluger6393 2023-02-09 19:52|| 2023-02-09 19:52|| Front Page Top

#9 First recorded destruction of a Russian Terminator BMPT in Kreminna.

Posted by Thruter Gloluger6393 2023-02-09 20:02|| 2023-02-09 20:02|| Front Page Top

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