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2007-02-08 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Mysterious Lights Spotted Over Phoenix Again
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Posted by ryuge 2007-02-08 08:00|| || Front Page|| [11126 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Once again the government steps up with their 'we can't let the people know the truth' mentality. this time it's Marine flares. But it's the same old bullshit.
Posted by wxjames 2007-02-08 09:42||   2007-02-08 09:42|| Front Page Top

#2 I saw the video of the "Phoenix Lights" the first time it happened. Took me 5 seconds to ID them as parachute flares dropped in a string from high altitude.
Posted by Steve">Steve  2007-02-08 10:37||   2007-02-08 10:37|| Front Page Top

#3 McCain's Campaign getting off to a flying start?
Posted by doc 2007-02-08 10:50||   2007-02-08 10:50|| Front Page Top

#4 You saw "a video" that was alleged to be the Phoenix lights. It was actually part of a process of disinformation.

1) At first, it was all over the news, and people were going outside to look at the aircraft. One man even used his video camera to tape the thing, which hovered about 150 feet over his house for several minutes.

2) Several prominent people demanded an inquiry and were told that they were kooks and to shut up.

3) Three or four days after the event, the local TV news showed wide-angle video of the Phoenix skyline at night and claimed it was of the "Phoenix lights", even though no elevated or moving lights were shown.

4) Within a week, the Arizona Republic published an editorial damning "conspiracy theorists", etc., and claiming that no evidence existed about the lights. The Phoenix New Times also jumped on the bandwagon, and still uses derisive language against "Phoenix Lights" proponents, while advertising the professional UFO kooks.

5) Since then, other video has been provided showing several different normal flying or hovering objects, labeled as "The Phoenix Lights."

Practically speaking, Phoenix is a transit point for Army and Air Force aircraft to and from both Nevada and New Mexico, and California. There is one major North-South helicopter and low-level corridor from Phoenix to Flagstaff, generally over the Verde River (NE of Phoenix) area.

Any unusual aircraft would be transiting here, and "black helicopter" sightings were common when the Boeing helicopter plant in Mesa (E of Phoenix) was in operation.

Common sense speculation was that some advanced Groom Lake aircraft with hover capability had a bad transmission problem over Phoenix. The rather strained disavowing of the event can be just put down to overenthusiastic security officials.
Posted by Anonymoose 2007-02-08 11:09||   2007-02-08 11:09|| Front Page Top

#5 in some, Common Sense is in short suppy.
Posted by Glolurt Omolunter4052 2007-02-08 12:11||   2007-02-08 12:11|| Front Page Top

#6 Moderate Crop Circle Watch
Posted by Shipman 2007-02-08 12:58||   2007-02-08 12:58|| Front Page Top

#7 And, in others, spellin' is in short suppy, too, lol!
Posted by BA 2007-02-08 13:31||   2007-02-08 13:31|| Front Page Top

#8 Gotta be them Nordics again.
Posted by anonymous5089 2007-02-08 13:53||   2007-02-08 13:53|| Front Page Top

#9 Hey, wasn't Swamp (Gas) Blondie from Phoenix? Pretty suspicious, Ima thinking.
Posted by SteveS 2007-02-08 14:13||   2007-02-08 14:13|| Front Page Top

#10 I bet 50 quatloos is was the Greys.
Posted by xbalanke 2007-02-08 14:26||   2007-02-08 14:26|| Front Page Top

#11 I had enough tinfoil to completely block out the sensation...
Posted by Intrinsicpilot 2007-02-08 15:40||   2007-02-08 15:40|| Front Page Top

#12 The best black helicopter sighting was at Arcosanti, a bizarre hippy art colony North of Phoenix. For some unexplained reason, some helicopter pilot took his attack helicopter up there and hovered about 30 feet off the ground. The irate hippy-arteests started to throw rocks at it.

This prompted the pilot to swivel his front gun at them, which did not impress the hippies, so he ended up flying away, perhaps so the imbeciles wouldn't damage his very expensive aircraft with rocks.

A friend who watched the whole thing noted with interest that there was no ID numbers on the helicopter, which he thought was a major FAA no-no.
Posted by Anonymoose 2007-02-08 18:51||   2007-02-08 18:51|| Front Page Top

#13 Anonymoose, I once spent a very interesting day with Paulo Soleri, the founder of Arcosanti. But that was long ago in a galaxy far, far away.
Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues  2007-02-08 19:13||   2007-02-08 19:13|| Front Page Top

#14 That's nothing; I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home.
Posted by Luke S.">Luke S.  2007-02-08 19:37||   2007-02-08 19:37|| Front Page Top

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