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2020-01-22 Science & Technology

Marines to call for end of iconic machine gun: M2 'Ma Deuce' will soon be replaced

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Posted by Besoeker 2020-01-22 08:40|| || Front Page|| [2 views ] Top

#1 But will the replacement be able to punch a hole in the engine of an oncoming suicide vehicle while it is still at a safe distance?

Posted by Glenmore 2020-01-22 10:48|| 2020-01-22 10:48|| Front Page Top

#2 Somehow I just don't think this is going to work out. That gun is heavy for a reason.

Posted by gorb 2020-01-22 12:18|| 2020-01-22 12:18|| Front Page Top

#3 M2 Browning Step By Step Headspace Timing
YouTube video of setting the MaDeuce headspace and timing in a mere 8 minutes. Try doing it before inserting the beast into the Tank Commanders coupola and not screwing up the barrel settings when trying to fit it to the link chute adaptor. Many a long morning on the range....

Posted by NoMoreBS 2020-01-22 12:36|| 2020-01-22 12:36|| Front Page Top

#4 Cant wait till they show up on the CMP. Should be many classified as C&R.

Posted by BrerRabbit 2020-01-22 17:01|| 2020-01-22 17:01|| Front Page Top

#5 I doubt they will fully get rid of Ma Deuce. Back in 93-96 they tried to replace the M-60 with the M-249 SAW (replace 7.62 with 5.56).

The 5.56 didn't have the ass to punch through windshields (it would ricochet off due to the high angle of deflection of the glass, just like modern tank armor), it didn't go through the concrete blocks that most of the houses in the ME are made out of.

The SAW still had its uses, but the US modernized the M-60 and kept the machine gun in inventory for the heavy weapon squads.

I see something similar happening with the 50 cal. The new weapon will replace most platoon level mechanized MGs but the M2 will stay on company and battalion security and heavy weapon groups.

Posted by DarthVader 2020-01-22 17:42|| 2020-01-22 17:42|| Front Page Top

#6 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc&feature=related

Posted by crazyhorse 2020-01-22 18:13|| 2020-01-22 18:13|| Front Page Top

#7 Like it was noted, the M2's main failing is headspace and timing fussiness. Fix that (the mass is needed I think) and we are good.
I have spent a long time on the M2's design.

Posted by Whiskey Mike 2020-01-22 21:27|| 2020-01-22 21:27|| Front Page Top

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