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2007-01-20 India-Pakistan
Pakistan - Failed State
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Posted by john 2007-01-20 05:09|| || Front Page|| [7 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 So, is there any Muslem country which isn't?
Posted by gromgoru 2007-01-20 07:01||   2007-01-20 07:01|| Front Page Top

#2 The possession of nukes, an enormous population and the jihadi mindset makes it of special interest.
Posted by john 2007-01-20 07:43||   2007-01-20 07:43|| Front Page Top

#3 So, is there any Muslem country which isn't?

Morocco.
Malaysia.
Turkey.

Let's not ignore reality: you have a few Muslim states that are managing in the real world today. Only a few.
Posted by Steve White">Steve White  2007-01-20 11:57||   2007-01-20 11:57|| Front Page Top

#4 Of course Pakland is a failed state. Paks are a failed humanity. Can't make silk purses out of sows ears. And, worse, if you're Muzzie, you ain't got any pigs to start with.
Posted by SpecOp35 2007-01-20 12:54||   2007-01-20 12:54|| Front Page Top

#5 Doc Steve, I'd add (parts) of Indonesia. Also, I'd add that Egypt and Jordan seem to be doing (comparatively speaking) well vs. other Muslim nations. Heck, you could even somewhat consider Kuwait and Bahrain as successful (in terms of wealth and commerce) nations. Even to the worldly eye (looking at wealth and infrastructure), Saudi looks advanced. BUT, all these nations have either dictatorships, ruling families, and/or the jihadi undertow (w/in the gov'ts) enough to worry about them.

Other failed states? France, Spain is quickly heading that way, and pretty much 1/2 or more of Africa.
Posted by BA 2007-01-20 17:36||   2007-01-20 17:36|| Front Page Top

#6 BA, agreed about Kuwait and Bahrain, and I suppose I could add Qatar and Oman. Not sure about Jordan, I think it could blow at any seam. And Egypt is going to blow the day after Mubarak dies and Sonny Boy tries to take over.
Posted by Steve White">Steve White  2007-01-20 18:41||   2007-01-20 18:41|| Front Page Top

#7 #3 Check out Moroccan emigration/Islamic activity.
Malaysia began oppressing its Chinese minority = coming economic collapse.
Turkey, marely takes longer than other Muslim countries, but all the signs are there.
Posted by gromgoru 2007-01-20 19:22||   2007-01-20 19:22|| Front Page Top

#8 (parts) of Indonesia aren't Muslim. Bali is Buddist, I think. The Suhartos, who used to run the place, were not Muslim, if the niece that I was friends with in Germany was a proper sample. Smart lady, last I heard she was a department head at Bell Labs, and looking higher.
Posted by trailing wife 2007-01-20 19:54||   2007-01-20 19:54|| Front Page Top

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