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2008-01-14 Home Front: Politix

US military chief favors closing Guantanamo

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Posted by gorb 2008-01-14 03:22|| || Front Page|| [7 views ] Top
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#1 ...he was not aware it was even being considered because of the complex legal issues involved.

Which is exactly why it was set up there in the first place. The unrelenting lawfare conducted against the US, under the guise of 'civil rights' for enemy combatants [for which existing international law, the Geneva Convention specifically rejects as illegal combatants], shows that this was an important preemptive act at the start of the WoT.

Posted by Procopius2k 2008-01-14 09:03|| 2008-01-14 09:03|| Front Page Top

#2 I suspect that Gitmo will be closed very quickly when the time comes, and any remaining lawfare suits will be called "moot". If the prisoners, guards, and administration of Gitmo are quietly shifted out, then the camp "re-missioned" for something else, it will be completely cleaned and probably used as a storage depot.

By doing this, the precedent for Gitmo will have been made, *and* the prisoners sent out of the US and out of the clutches of the lawyers and liberal judges, *and* Gitmo won't even remain as a photo op of a "US prison camp", to probably be compared with a Nazi concentration camp.

It will just be easy to forget.

Posted by Anonymoose 2008-01-14 10:38|| 2008-01-14 10:38|| Front Page Top

#3 since we are still capturing these enemy combattants wahere does the world suggest we keep them. Everyone wants the place closed but i have not heard one idea of what too do with these so called ppl . Well here is my idea. close it, say you are moving the remaining ppl there too another location across the atlantic and throw their asses out of the plane on the way.

Posted by sinse 2008-01-14 11:36|| 2008-01-14 11:36|| Front Page Top

#4 I have long suspected that Gitmo was a "Potemkin village", where we would put unimportant nobodies and a few important ones drained of information.

Many reasons for doing this, all based on the idea that Gitmo would be a lightening rod for assholes trying to undermine the WoT.

Prisoners of importance would be kept overseas, out of the hands of US judges and lawyers, where they could be persuaded to cooperate by foreigners not under restrictive laws. If they died, it was an accident, not subject to lawsuits. CIA agents would just wait outside until the prisoner wanted to talk, so they would not even "observe" torture.

By paying attention to Gitmo, other, secret prisons would be ignored. Early on, somebody in the CIA let slip that one of these was nicknamed "The Hotel California".

This changes the context of those song lyrics in really gruesome ways.

Posted by Anonymoose 2008-01-14 12:26|| 2008-01-14 12:26|| Front Page Top

#5 Sinse, I keep calling for a camp at 'Ice Station Zebra'. I suppose some regulars see it as one more of my lame jokes.

I'm not joking.

Recall Ice Station Zebra: a remote outpost in the Arctic. Even with global warming such places exist. Cold, remote, cold, distant, cold, isolated, and did I mention cold? No one needs to know about it, and no one would if I had my way. Gitmo is out in the open; you can't look past it.

But Ice Station Zebra is a place that would be a rumor, at most, a scare tactic to use on a truculant Mahmoud: no need to waterboard the misguided, just put them outside for a while in their skivvies. "Mighty cold out there today, Mahmoud, weatherman says it's not going to get up above -40. Sure you don't want to tell us about your friends?"

The whole problem of Gitmo is exactly what Adm. Mullen and 'Moose note: the world knows about it, and the squeamish and the 'tarded are unhappy. The answer is simple. Ice Station Zebra is a place that we never admit to, never confirm, always deny, and always use. Only Mahmoud knows for sure, and he won't be talking. After he does. You know.

Posted by Steve White">Steve White 2008-01-14 12:57|| 2008-01-14 12:57|| Front Page Top

#6 good idea steve, but after he talks just leave muhmood outside

Posted by sinse 2008-01-14 15:32|| 2008-01-14 15:32|| Front Page Top

#7 Someone might forget to pay the gas bill . . . .

Posted by gorb 2008-01-14 18:37|| 2008-01-14 18:37|| Front Page Top

#8 I favor closing it, too.

The sharks around Cuba need something to eat....

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2008-01-14 19:27|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/] 2008-01-14 19:27|| Front Page Top

#9 "We certainly look at this mission as ~~a crusade~~ an enduring mission until someone comes in and shuts it down," he said. "I have no idea how long it will be. The political leadership would have to make that decision."

Strangely worded indeed. A flag officer with... "no idea" as in clueless, or doesn't give a damn. Passing the decision process off to "political leadership." Unimpressive statements and the reference "political leadership" ....borderline oxymoronic.

Posted by Besoeker 2008-01-14 23:03|| 2008-01-14 23:03|| Front Page Top

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