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2004-01-11 Latin America
Update: Brazil to Strengthen Fingerprint Policy to protect itself from Violent American tourists
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Posted by Super Hose 2004-01-11 12:41:08 PM|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 ah let em finger print to their hearts content,its not as if any sane person would want to visit that squalid dump anyway, Brazils good for trees to make paper and thats about it.Also that Julier Da Silva guy must live in some sort of alternitve universe where the nazi's worst crime was finger printing,what a deluded fool he must be.
Posted by Jon Shep U.K  2004-1-11 12:59:17 PM||   2004-1-11 12:59:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 LMAO... I love how the judge in brazil says our policy is "absolutely brutal, threatening to human rights, violating human dignity, xenophobic and worthy of the worst horrors committed by the Nazis." and then proceeds to implement the exact same policy towards americans in retaliation. a) he doesn't believe any of that hate filled spew he uttered or b) he thinks a little nazification of his own country is a good thing...
Posted by Damn_Proud_American  2004-1-11 2:26:48 PM|| [http://brighterfuture.blogspot.com]  2004-1-11 2:26:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Isn't Brazil where the hold Rio De Janero's Carnival?
Might be a little slow this year.
Posted by raptor  2004-1-11 3:27:20 PM||   2004-1-11 3:27:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Yeah it is... luckily I went last year because I have no intention of going back to Brazil in a long, long time. Btw, the anti-american sentiment while I was there was palpable... I got harrased on several occasions by morons bitching to me about how Bush was the anti-christ and he was out to destroy the world...
Posted by Damn_Proud_American  2004-1-11 4:21:15 PM|| [http://brighterfuture.blogspot.com]  2004-1-11 4:21:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Really? Did you ask them how they knew Bush was the Anti-Christ?
Posted by Charles  2004-1-11 4:27:41 PM||   2004-1-11 4:27:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Nah, I pretty much either laughed at them or ignored them... both approaches just appeared to make them even angrier :) What's funny is Brazilians in the US that I've met think that Lula is a moron and the anti-americanism in Brazil is embarrasing.
Posted by Damn_Proud_American  2004-1-11 5:05:15 PM|| [http://brighterfuture.blogspot.com]  2004-1-11 5:05:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 absolutely brutal, threatening to human rights, violating human dignity, xenophobic and worthy of the worst horrors committed by the Nazis

Let's see: Nazis round up Jews, kill 6 million. US has fingerprinting at airports.

Yeah, those are the same.
Posted by RMcLeod  2004-1-11 5:32:54 PM||   2004-1-11 5:32:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 My girlfriend is originally from Sao Paulo and I have a lot of friends there. I know a bit about Brazil and its politics. Basically, this “decree” is part of their “retaliation” policy. It’s traditionally been the Brazilian government’s guideline to “do unto others what has been done to them”. For example, Canada and the US require Brazilian citizens to enter with a visa, so Brazil will do the same to them; whereas, this is not the case in Europe, so Europeans can enter and exit the country with ease.

This fingerprinting thing is just an extension of their retaliation. Not that I agree with what they are doing – it’s really stupid and will be counterproductive in the short-run, so long as they keep it up – and I would prefer not go back under these new circumstances.

Sadly, however, my girlfriend (and probably future wife) had to go back for a bit because of family issues and I have to go and meet her parents. I will most likely have to undergo this finger printing procedure, which is nothing more than discrimination. I don't trust the what the Brazilian government will do with my prints.

As for the comments about anti-Americanism in Brazil, I disagree. Most, on the whole, actually admire America and Americans and many have dreams about living here and a lot would love to escape the crime that havocs many of the major cities. In many ways, Brazil is a very similar society to the US. The main problem is the corrupt “elites” – like this idiot judge -- who are Francophiles. So, they hate America by default and for ideological reasons. Luckily, this sentiment hasn’t transferred to the main populace yet, whose main concerns are having a good time and putting food on the table. Maybe people down there do live paycheck to paycheck.

Furthermore, important figures, like Rio’s mayor and I think the minister of tourism, have filed lawsuits, claiming that policy will damage the vital tourism industry, which is just starting to recover after a long slump. It certainly won’t help, and I hear many American tour companies are thinking twice about the tours there.

Should be interesting when Lula and Bush meet over this.
Posted by LJ 2004-1-11 5:38:07 PM||   2004-1-11 5:38:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Raptor u need a world map. Twit. If they are fingerprinting anyone what's the fuss. It's THEIR country morons.
Posted by Faisal 2004-1-11 5:51:34 PM||   2004-1-11 5:51:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 good to see you back faisal you fool,you keep me amused like a cyber space jester,do stick around for more abuse,its a hoot.
Posted by Jon Shep U.K  2004-1-11 7:06:22 PM||   2004-1-11 7:06:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Faisal, from the way I read Raptor's comment, it appears that he is pointing out that he who chases away customers with cash is a poorer man. Personally, if they wanted a DNA sample from me, I'd hawk a loogie into whatever recepticle they presented. On the other hand, I doubt that I would hop a plane to be hassled for nine straight hours. New Orleans has a nice enough Mardi Gras, where I don't have to hang out in a Soviet breadline.
Posted by Super Hose  2004-1-11 9:39:17 PM||   2004-1-11 9:39:17 PM|| Front Page Top

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