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2008-01-10 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

Iran Accuses U.S. of Faking Persian Gulf Video

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Posted by Fred 2008-01-10 00:00|| || Front Page|| [8 views ] Top
File under: IRGC

#1 hmmm, if they are fabricated boats, then they won't mind the fabricated explosions

Posted by Jan at work 2008-01-10 00:20|| 2008-01-10 00:20|| Front Page Top

#2 The video was not faked, our video fabricators won't cross the picket lines.

Posted by Super Hose 2008-01-10 00:38|| 2008-01-10 00:38|| Front Page Top

#3 Jan, very very good point.

Posted by twobyfour 2008-01-10 01:36|| 2008-01-10 01:36|| Front Page Top

#4 Huffington Post must have a direct line to the Propaganda mill in Tehran:

A New Disgrace at HuffPo

"They come so frequently, it's hard to get worked up, but there's a dead giveaway this time. The teaser for the piece reads, "At the risk of sounding like an apologist for the Islamic Republic..." The author is Hooman Majd, who accuses the Pentagon of manufacturing the incident with Iran in the Gulf this week."

Majd's column was posted at 11:41AM Wednesday, no more than a few hours after the release of the RG statement, and does not reference any Iranian claims.

Posted by Gromomble Oppressor of the Iowans8916 2008-01-10 03:33|| 2008-01-10 03:33|| Front Page Top

#5 A crazy statement, but it'll hold up. The anti-US forces have never had truthiness as their strong point, and a denial is all they need to start frothing at the mouth as usual.

Posted by gromky 2008-01-10 05:42|| 2008-01-10 05:42|| Front Page Top

#6 There is nothing dramatic about the footage; it is a badly made fake. First it shows speed boats patrolling, nothing dramatic about that, it happens daily over there. The conversation from the warship to the boats again normal. Conversation from the speed boat to the ship....FAKE, The voice is robotic and not at all what one would expect considering the noise and vibration that riding in those craft at that speed would provoke when all ' this so called action ' was happening it seems as if one of the crew just ' happened to have a ' video camera, and for such a stressing period,,,,,, well they seem very relaxed. Notice the 'threat' is an audio file and is tagged on the end with several videos tagged together and taken by different cams.
With all that technology and this is the only thing they can come up with - a handheld video cam on deck?...Is this yet again another stunt by the American Government to show the people that they are under threat????........Answer should be only from G.BUSH & Co ........thats the people they should be scared of. The reporters present should have questioned this simple fact before they report this bit of rubbish as fact.

Posted by Glamp Grundy9409 2008-01-10 05:55|| 2008-01-10 05:55|| Front Page Top

#7 ah Rosie, too much time on your hands now that you were fired from the View?

Posted by Whomong Guelph4611 2008-01-10 06:02|| 2008-01-10 06:02|| Front Page Top

#8 Poor Justice.

Posted by trailing wife 2008-01-10 06:31|| 2008-01-10 06:31|| Front Page Top

#9 A rubber Dingy blew a hole in the USS Cole.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2008-01-10 06:47|| 2008-01-10 06:47|| Front Page Top

#10 troll fever..catch it!

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-01-10 08:00|| 2008-01-10 08:00|| Front Page Top

#11 Bush Derangement Syndrome is officially a pandemic.

Posted by doc 2008-01-10 08:16|| 2008-01-10 08:16|| Front Page Top

#12 Real easy solution. Next time, blow them out of the water...

Posted by tu3031 2008-01-10 08:33|| 2008-01-10 08:33|| Front Page Top

#13 Justice: The first, most basic thought that comes to me is that an RPG will punch right through the hull of one of those ships? Supposing you were the captain of that ship, what would you do with a dead crewman or two or three? Are they expendable? What if one of them were your brother? Would you like anyone talking trash about a decision to take action at a distance which is within the lethal range of a semi-lucky RPG shot? Yes, those things reach out hundreds of yards farther than the distance those dinghies were from the warships. The only thing the captain had going for him was that the dinghies are an unstable platform to shoot from.

And those IRG guys don't think like you or me. Don't dismiss this little fact.

How about you rethink things in those terms and let us know what you really think.

Posted by gorb 2008-01-10 09:07|| 2008-01-10 09:07|| Front Page Top

#14 And one more thing, Justice: The video that the Iranians released was fabricated. I'll bet everything you own that it was. I posted a story about this that hopefully will show up later, including details as to why I think it was fabricated.

Any idea as to why the Iranians would fabricate this? Suppose they've got something to hide? Hey, dinghies are just, well, dinghies. According to your well-informed judgment. Nothing to hide, right? Can't be! You've been whitewater rafting before!

Posted by gorb 2008-01-10 09:12|| 2008-01-10 09:12|| Front Page Top

#15 I heard on Fox last night, that the Pentagon was looking into the explode part of the tape, that it may have come from land and not the boats!

Posted by Sherry">Sherry 2008-01-10 09:54|| 2008-01-10 09:54|| Front Page Top

#16 I wondered how many retard traitors there could be who would even pretend to believe this ludicrous Persian lie. Looks like Justice is at the front of the line for the short bus.

Posted by Excalibur 2008-01-10 09:55|| 2008-01-10 09:55|| Front Page Top

#17 gorb i stated this yesterday, i doubt a n RPG would puncture a heavily armored warship. A couple of weeks ago on the history channel they had a show on about pirates off the coast of africa striking a cruise ship with RPG rounds and there wasn't that much damage besides nerves

Posted by sinse 2008-01-10 10:54|| 2008-01-10 10:54|| Front Page Top

#18 sinse: I remember, but I still don't think so. AFAIK the hull on the USS Cole is only half an inch thick, so I figure these ships are built similarly. Any RPG worth its salt can punch right through that like so much tissue paper. Don't even the folks in the Strykers and Bradleys worry about RPGs? Those have way more armor than a warship.

And it turns out the number on the USS Hopper is 70, so I got that wrong for sure!

Posted by gorb 2008-01-10 11:19|| 2008-01-10 11:19|| Front Page Top

#19 If justlice is sounding like the koolaid man to anyone else, gigli9409 is the pitcher crashing through the wall.
Unless irun made a fake to rebute a US fake - or the US made a fake irun tape to substantiate the original US fake - or gigli9409 is a fake justlice who faked a comment about an irun fake tape refuting the fake US tape.

All this talk about dingies with lifevests makes me wonder how that whole malaysia health minister deal is cooking. More coffee over here please!

Posted by swksvolFF 2008-01-10 11:46|| 2008-01-10 11:46|| Front Page Top

#20 Nice try, Justice. Your grammar is improving and you made good use of sarcasm which is an element we here at Rantburg appreciate. Most likely there are moon bat elements in this country who would even nod their heads in agreement with you.

But the reality is that a swarm of speed boats packed with high explosives and piloted by crazy, frickin' suicidal Iranians does indeed pose a threat to our ships and should be blown out of the water if they get too close. Shortly after that we should bomb the hell out of your pathetic little country just to make sure it never happens again.

Your boys the other day were lucky. They ran it right up to the limit and got away with it. Next time they might not. The only way you'll know for sure is to keep trying.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2008-01-10 12:14|| 2008-01-10 12:14|| Front Page Top

#21 Glampy posts from the UK. Methinks it confuses 'relaxed' with 'discipline', 'experience', and 'professionalism', something the Brits used to have.

Posted by Pappy 2008-01-10 12:34|| 2008-01-10 12:34|| Front Page Top

#22 OOOPS! looks like there's less to the US version of events than claimed:

"The list of those who are less than fully confident in the Pentagons video/audio mashup of aggressive maneuvers by Iranian boats near American warships in the Strait of Hormuz now includes the Pentagon itself.

Unnamed Pentagon officials said on Wednesday that the threatening voice heard in the audio clip, which was released on Monday night with a disclaimer that it was recorded separately from the video images and merged with them later, is not directly traceable to the Iranian military..."

New York Times January 10, 2008, 9:40 am

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/10/degrees-of-confidence-on-us-iran-naval-incident/?hp

Posted by hass">hass 2008-01-10 12:36|| 2008-01-10 12:36|| Front Page Top

#23 And we all have so much confidence in the New York Times.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2008-01-10 13:25|| 2008-01-10 13:25|| Front Page Top

#24 Dear Mr. hass, you gave a link to an unedited blog. Given the problem the New York Times has getting its facts right when the articles are vetted by salaried fact checkers and editors, how are we to treat with confidence a mere NYT blog blurb? Especially when the claim is based on unnamed, anonymous Pentagon staffers?

Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife 2008-01-10 17:48|| 2008-01-10 17:48|| Front Page Top

#25 But . . but . . . unnamed and anonymous are the BEST kind of sources! All the reporters talk to them, too!!

What good is and editor, anyway?

Posted by Jame Retief">Jame Retief 2008-01-10 18:33|| 2008-01-10 18:33|| Front Page Top

#26 See WND [paraph] > NAVY SAYS VOICE ON RECORDING MAY NOT BE FROM IRANIAN SPEEDBOATS.

ION, also from WND > INVASION USA: MEXICAN SOLDIERS ID'D INVADING THE USA. Dozens of alleged campaigns in Texas and other SW USA.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-01-10 19:02|| 2008-01-10 19:02|| Front Page Top

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