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2005-01-03 International-UN-NGOs

And when the great wave fell back, the UN stood revealed, Notably Useless

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Posted by tipper 2005-01-03 9:32:43 AM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 One more stone knocked out of the edifice that is the Whorehouse on the East River.

Posted by Tony (UK) 2005-01-03 10:21:11 AM|| 2005-01-03 10:21:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 The first would be to move almost immediately from G8 to G10 by incorporating China and India. Within a decade, Australia, Brazil, Indonesia, Mexico and South Africa can also be invited.

I've argued ad nauseam for a coalition of the US and relevant Asian democratic powers, including India, Australia and Japan (along with Britain), to address threats in teh near and far east. The response to the tsunami disaster shows this de facto coalition in action. Add Israel and you have a serious, modern, responsible collective security organization that can and will project power across the region to diminish the threats of islamofascist-inspired chaos, Chinese expanisionism, piracy etc.

Admittedly I was wrong about Russia, but clearly an alternative to the UNSC is finally taking shape. Keep it moving forward. Extend and formalize it as soon as the tsunami work is finished.

Posted by lex 2005-01-03 10:31:13 AM|| 2005-01-03 10:31:13 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Good idea but, other than having a growing economy, what would be the qualification for China to participate? As you say, I'd give Mexico, Indonesia and South Africa a few more years to build their democratic credentials before asking them in too. But Australia is fully house-trained - - they should be in now.

Posted by Peter Carroll 2005-01-03 10:42:22 AM|| 2005-01-03 10:42:22 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 How about adding South Korea? And Taiwan? I think that would tweak the Chi-cons to no end......

Posted by CrazyFool 2005-01-03 10:54:48 AM|| 2005-01-03 10:54:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Good idea but, other than having a growing economy, what would be the qualification for China to participate?

Good behavior. Beginning with an end to egregious behavior re Tibet, Taiwan, Sudan.

As to So Korea and Taiwan, I don't see them as nations that can consistently and usefully project power beyond their backyard.

Posted by lex 2005-01-03 11:11:46 AM|| 2005-01-03 11:11:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Good idea but, other than having a growing economy, what would be the qualification for China to participate?

Having aproximately 1/5 of the human race?

Posted by mojo 2005-01-03 12:55:32 PM|| 2005-01-03 12:55:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 China should not be a member until it can behave like a responsible world leader rather than a Wilhelmine bully/angry adolescent. The fundamental flaw of the UNSC-- including rival nations with diametrically opposed interests and incompatible political systems and then giving each nation a veto-- must be avoided here. The goal is to enable responsible action, not create stalemates.

Posted by lex 2005-01-03 2:46:52 PM|| 2005-01-03 2:46:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Also, one of the key goals here is to contain China. Why include them in the alliance?

Posted by lex 2005-01-03 11:20:52 PM|| 2005-01-03 11:20:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Trying to contain 1/5 of the world population is not only fraught with danger it's impossible.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2005-01-03 11:58:43 PM|| [http://www.slhess.com] 2005-01-03 11:58:43 PM|| Front Page Top

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