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2005-01-31 Home Front: Politix

The Iraq vote is making me sick this morning

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Posted by tipper 2005-01-31 01:06|| || Front Page|| [11129 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 All the media keeps talking about is how happy the Iraqis are, how high turnout was, and how "freedom" has spread to Iraq. I had to turn off CNN because they kept focusing on the so-called "voters" and barely mentioned the resistance movements at all. Where are the freedom fighters today? Are their voices silenced because some American puppets cast a few ballots?

I can't believe the Iraqis are buying into this "democracy" bullshit. They have to know that the Americans don't want them to have power, because they know that Bush is in this for the oil, and now that he finally has it he's not going to let it go. This election is a charade. The fact is that the Iraqis have suffered during the past two years more than any people on earth at the hands of the American gestapo. Maybe they're afraid and felt they had to vote. That's the only way I can explain it to myself.

OR--I just thought of this--maybe they're smiling because they're using the Americans own game to defeat them. They're voting in candidates who they know will widen the resistance, take the fight to the streets, and finally drive the occupying forces out of their country. Perhaps they're smiling because--right under the American's noses--they're planting the seeds of a bigger and more effective resistance movement. Wouldn't that be fitting? Use *'s own tools against them?

We can only pray that this is the case. Becuase if it's not--and if the Iraq vote is seen as a success that spread "freedom"--the world is screwed. Bush's inaugural speech left little doubt that he has other countries on his list to spread "freedom" to. They will be his next targets, and the world will burn because of it.

Let's hope the resistance got voted in, or if not, they only increase the fight and take down those who betrayed their country today by voting in this fraud election.

Posted by 2b 2005-01-31 9:28:58 AM|| 2005-01-31 9:28:58 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Wow. This guy seems to have the BDS too, .com. Maybe it is indicated by the prefix "2" in the username. I'll be sure of this when "2Aris" starts posting. Perhaps Dr. Steve can prescribe drugs.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-01-31 9:47:05 AM|| 2005-01-31 9:47:05 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 2B was quoting ShinerTX at the DU. The stuiff that passes for insightful at DU is mind blowing. There is more of that bile at DU if you follow the link Mr D.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2005-01-31 9:50:15 AM|| [http://www.slhess.com] 2005-01-31 9:50:15 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Senator Kennedy, we already know your position so please shut the fuck up...

Posted by tu3031 2005-01-31 9:51:41 AM|| 2005-01-31 9:51:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Mrs 2D - Are you on the Kool Aid, too? Or do you think that was a witty reposte of some sort?

Posted by .com 2005-01-31 9:54:03 AM|| 2005-01-31 9:54:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Thanks, SPOD.

Apologies 2b.

Don't get to DU too often. Folks of my persuasion wern't welcome there way back when I went to college, so I've always had an aversion. And they drank too much.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-01-31 9:55:51 AM|| 2005-01-31 9:55:51 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 "Let's hope the resistance got voted in, or if not, they only increase the fight and take down those who betrayed their country today by voting in this fraud election."

Take down? So the DUmmies want most of the Iraqis dead?

Posted by Korora 2005-01-31 10:07:50 AM|| [http://basementburrow.blogspot.com] 2005-01-31 10:07:50 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 I think this is the thread Steve Stirling was posting on. It should be fun to watch.

Posted by Phil Fraering 2005-01-31 10:10:27 AM|| [http://newsfromthefridge.typepad.com] 2005-01-31 10:10:27 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 This is indeed the thread to which Mr. Stirling is posting. Instapundit had the story yesterday. It's hilarious. ShinerTX is a prevaricating moron. Not just Stirling, but others as well, nail him to the wall.

You know it's bad when other DU'ers start accusing the original poster of being a Freeper troll :-)

Posted by Steve White 2005-01-31 10:20:32 AM|| 2005-01-31 10:20:32 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this idiot--I saw the same comments with some fisking linked by Instapundit last night. I imagine there were probably complete morons like this in the 50's bitching and moaning that Japan and Germany's election process and new democracies were also shams. What planet are these fools on?

Posted by Dar 2005-01-31 10:23:11 AM|| 2005-01-31 10:23:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 Shiner is a regional beer sold in Texas.

Dr Steve - Is that similar to the phenomenon in nature when the mother becomes so agitated (or hungry, that works, too, heh) that she eats her young?

Posted by .com 2005-01-31 10:24:27 AM|| 2005-01-31 10:24:27 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 Here's a couple more quotes Tim Blair found:

Until Iraqi insurgents deliver a pillow case full of fingers dipped in ink to the nearest American commander because thatâs what I would do if I were an insurgent leader

All weâve heard the past few weeks was how bad the violence was going to be, how Iraqi turnout was in question, how much of a disaster this was going to be, et al. In other words, we were lured into believing this was going to be a mess, but the reality is it wasnât so bad. There was violence, but there was also a huge voter turnout ... These guys are adept at making us believe that all will be a disaster, but when the reality shows itself to be not-that-bad, they look better in the aftermath than they deserve.

Posted by Steve 2005-01-31 10:51:56 AM|| 2005-01-31 10:51:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 Haven't been to DU yet,not a word mentioned at Juliusblog.The guy above ain't nuttin but a cry-baby.

Posted by Raptor 2005-01-31 11:12:42 AM|| 2005-01-31 11:12:42 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 I kinda liked this comment:

there were only 1.1M registered voters out of 14 million eligible voters.

That means that 67% of 1.1M voted and that puts the number at approximately 67,000 that voted, if my math is correct.

SO 67,000 OUT OF 14,000,000 ELIGIBLE VOTED!

WHOPPING SUCCESS HUH?!?!?

That math -- I don't thin' it works the way you thin' it works...

Posted by Fred 2005-01-31 11:17:06 AM|| 2005-01-31 11:17:06 AM|| Front Page Top

#15 it's the metric system conversion, Fred

Posted by Frank G 2005-01-31 11:29:53 AM|| 2005-01-31 11:29:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#16 loony leftists in the Sea of Time???

Posted by Liberalhawk 2005-01-31 11:40:25 AM|| 2005-01-31 11:40:25 AM|| Front Page Top

#17 FrankG - Maybe this guy was in charge of the English-Metric thrust conversion for that Mars probe a couple of years ago.

Posted by Laurence of the Rats 2005-01-31 12:02:47 PM|| [http://www.punictreachery.com/] 2005-01-31 12:02:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Purge time for the Dems. Beinart's right: this is like 1947 all over. Time to get rid of the fellow travelers, or else resign yourselves to permanent minority status.

Posted by lex 2005-01-31 12:46:30 PM|| 2005-01-31 12:46:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 Of course no one was purged in 1947, theres no mechanism in the US for ousting someone from the party, and candidates for Senate, etc are nominated by state parties - theres even less party control now, with the thorough dominance of the primary process. All we can do is make choices.

I liked the words of Evan Bayh on ABC yesterday, saying it would be a disaster to cut and run. No one important is backing Teddy on this. Reid by asking for an exit strategy, NOT a timetable, is trying to skirt the divisions within the Dems.

All kind of silly, as the results from Iraq are going to be what determins negotiations for a timetable, but I guess its hard for Reid to simply ignore Ted.

Posted by Liberalhawk 2005-01-31 1:17:21 PM|| 2005-01-31 1:17:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 Fred, you gotta use imaginary numbers to make it work. eleventeen solves the equation.

Posted by Shipman 2005-01-31 2:33:27 PM|| 2005-01-31 2:33:27 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 Ah. That's it. I forgot to carry the W...

Posted by Fred 2005-01-31 2:36:38 PM|| 2005-01-31 2:36:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 The Iraq vote is making me sick this morning

Fair enough; I live in Berkeley where Democrats make me sick every day.

Posted by Secret Master 2005-01-31 3:17:30 PM|| 2005-01-31 3:17:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 apology accepted, Mrs. D. Next time I'll remember to add the quotes.

And just for the record...I'm thrilled for the Iraqi's!

Posted by 2b 2005-01-31 3:30:25 PM|| 2005-01-31 3:30:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 The DUs are democratic supporters of democracies as in Peoples' Democratic Republics. They don't support democracy in Iraq anymore than they support democracy in America. One Party, One Vote - Ein Volk.

Posted by Elmomoting Grunter8338 2005-01-31 3:37:14 PM|| 2005-01-31 3:37:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 Stirling did make one mistake on that thread. He wrote that the US didn't attack Sweden or France during WW II. Actually, the first US invasion in the European war was of the Vichy French territories in Africa. And, they shot back.

That tells you something about the French. It also tells you that to bring freedom to the world, you do sometimes have to do other unpleasant things.

Posted by Eric Jablow 2005-01-31 9:30:02 PM|| 2005-01-31 9:30:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#26 I read a few more of ShinerTX's posts on DU - make no mistake - ShinerTX is the enemy here in America. Worse - he/she is a traitor and an enemy within. This piece of shit disrespects the sacrifices made by 1400 soldiers/marines and their families as well as the thousands wounded some horribly. Freedom of speech has its limits during war. If you identify yourself as the enemy - you should be treated as such.

Posted by JP 2005-01-31 10:04:28 PM|| 2005-01-31 10:04:28 PM|| Front Page Top

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