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2023-01-19 Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Over 90 countries urge Israel to lift sanctions put on Palestinians after UN vote
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Posted by trailing wife 2023-01-19 00:57|| || Front Page|| [11129 views ]  Top
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#1 They are so cruel. These people have nothing, and they're putting the hurt on them. Disgusting, as the vote shows the whole world condemns this behavior. And they think they're the victims!

How about this? We start sanctioning Israel until they begin behaving like a civilized nation. It's what we did to South Africa to force them to get rid of their sickening apartheid system. It can work again.

Oh, but we can't do that because Israel controls the US government like a puppet. We even give them billions in aid every year, like they're some kind of poor country.
Posted by Herman Hapsburg8987 2023-01-19 01:30||   2023-01-19 01:30|| Front Page Top

#2 Oh, you absolutely should boycott Israeli products, Herman Hapsburg8987 — I think that’s a brilliant idea. Here’s a partial list as of 2021 link.
Posted by trailing wife 2023-01-19 01:56||   2023-01-19 01:56|| Front Page Top

#3 South Africa is such a nice place now....
Posted by Xyz 2023-01-19 02:33||   2023-01-19 02:33|| Front Page Top

#4 You know what else they invented? Laws preventing Jews from marrying people of other religions.

Who advocates for racemixing yet doesn't allow it themselves?
Posted by Herman Hapsburg8987 2023-01-19 06:37||   2023-01-19 06:37|| Front Page Top

#5 All this because you were circumcised?
Isn't that like, your parents fault?
Posted by Skidmark 2023-01-19 07:03||   2023-01-19 07:03|| Front Page Top

#6 Methinks Herman has a hate on for teh Juice.
Posted by Frank G 2023-01-19 07:09||   2023-01-19 07:09|| Front Page Top

#7 /\ Double standards abound.

No need to get into a Sam Bankman-Fried, Bernie Madoff, Epstein, Maxwell, Diane Feinstein, Kissinger, Adam Schiff, Chuck Schumer, Paul Pelosi, or Soros discussion however.
Or specific religious political caucuses.
Posted by Besoeker 2023-01-19 07:18||   2023-01-19 07:18|| Front Page Top

#8 Herman Hapsburg8987 is free to critique any group he wants as long as it reasonable on this site. If you can't take it don't read it.
Posted by Bill Greans6336 2023-01-19 07:59||   2023-01-19 07:59|| Front Page Top

#9 Well, thanks anon.
There are other forums where he would be welcomed and not considered a spittle spraying agitator.
Perhaps you could recommend some.
Posted by Skidmark 2023-01-19 08:41||   2023-01-19 08:41|| Front Page Top

#10 Well, thanks anon.
There are other forums where he would be welcomed and not considered a spittle spraying agitator.
Perhaps you could recommend some.
Posted by: Skidmark

If that's directed at me, I'm hardly new to this site.
Should we talk about thin skin?
Posted by Bill Greans6336 2023-01-19 09:38||   2023-01-19 09:38|| Front Page Top

#11 Herman it's far past the time when the US minds it's own damn business. Ending apartheid in South Africa worked out so well, you can go to vidmax just about on a daily basis and see some crazy shit going on.
Posted by Chris 2023-01-19 09:44||   2023-01-19 09:44|| Front Page Top

#12  You know what else they invented? Laws preventing Jews from marrying people of other religions.


Actually, the Ottoman Turks invented that, centuries ago. The British Mandate did not change the law, nor did Israel at its founding, being at the time in the middle of a war with five British-trained and officered Arab armies intent on killing all the Jews. Nor were the Ottoman Turks the only ones with such laws. But what it actually is, is that the state sanctions marriages performed by the clergy of Jewish, Muslim, Druze, and certain Christian denominations, and none others. However — and this is important — Israel does recognize civil, interfaith, and same-sex marriages performed abroad, so Israelis who fall into those categories generally run off to Cyprus for their weddings. Under Israeli law, the spouse of an Israeli automatically gets Israeli citizenship, except for West Bank Palestinians and the citizens of certain Arab countries.

You'll need to find some other reason for your Jew hate, Herman Hapsburg8987. Go on — you tee ‘em up, we’ll knock ‘em down.

He’s a chew toy, Bill Greans6336, which is why I, the Jewess moderator, did not strike his post with lightning. Why are you charging in to protect what does not need protecting?
Posted by trailing wife 2023-01-19 10:39||   2023-01-19 10:39|| Front Page Top

#13 Kind of enjoy it. "Eastern Europeans eradicated Palestine" is the wildest shit I've heard since Al Gore tried to rape his masseuse.

I can't stop thinking about it. Say what you will about The Romans eradicated Palestine! group, at least we are talking about a certain people and time frame. The Eastern Europeans did it! has absolutely no context at all. Black Sea Slaves of Alexander the Great? The title, The Great, unfortunately does not cover this. How far back in time, and how far east do we have to go?

About the only thing which lights that bong is Eastern Europe under control of the Mongols, of whom spawned the muslim convert Timurlame, who then worked his way into The Levant slaughtering all those who were the wrong muslim.

Thats a bag of chips wild, mahn!
Posted by swksvolFF 2023-01-19 11:28||   2023-01-19 11:28|| Front Page Top

#14 By my estimate Judas Maccabaeus won against the Eastern Europeans.
Posted by Super Hose 2023-01-19 12:13||   2023-01-19 12:13|| Front Page Top

#15 Minoans, finding precurser history, launch a pre-emptive attack, and are then punished by volcanoes by once a future allah.

What are the parameters here for your Eastern Europeans, we talking Elbe to the Urals, not south of Constantinople?

It was those gardarned Transdanubians wasn't it?
Posted by swksvolFF 2023-01-19 13:02||   2023-01-19 13:02|| Front Page Top

#16 I appreciate you not Smokey Stamping him my Jewess Moderator, he is unenlightened.
If you take a look at the posts here today or any day you will notice it's largely the same contributors. You can pretty much guess what the comment is going to be based on the nic. Rantburg needs more opinions, commenters and contributors as long as they are reasonable. Running people off you don't like has not helped this site. Besides, his comments are pretty tame at least for R'burg.
Additionally, were I king for a day I would pretty much run Israel the way it's run now regarding the Paleos. But the IDF, Israel Government and Jews are far from perfect and from time to time deserving of criticism. (The shooting of a teen age girl in the face by an IDF sniper comes to mind).
Just my 2 cents.
Posted by Bill Greans6336 2023-01-19 13:21||   2023-01-19 13:21|| Front Page Top

#17 You can pretty much guess what the comment is going to be based on the nic

Why, yes, yes you can...
Posted by M. Murcek 2023-01-19 13:24||   2023-01-19 13:24|| Front Page Top

#18 ....what about the Swedes. They spent some time in what we now call Poland. Are they also Eastern Europeans or solely Northmen?
Posted by swksvolFF 2023-01-19 13:38||   2023-01-19 13:38|| Front Page Top

#19 I mean, questioning genetic mythologies is not exactly a racist or bigoted thing. The 20th Century had the idea of genetic mythology; Mussolini linked his movement to the Roman Empire, Hitler the Aryan master race, and Jewish Zionists link themselves to the biblical idea of the Hebrews. Each argues something along the lines of "blood and soil," that they have a genetic right to rule some land and expel and exterminate impure races.

Apartheid can best be understood as a system of prolonged and cruel discriminatory treatment by one racial group of members of another with the intention to control the second racial group. When I got up today I didn't expect posts defending apartheid and anti-miscegenation laws...but here they are.

I think I've had enough internet for one day.
Posted by Herman Hapsburg8987 2023-01-19 14:19||   2023-01-19 14:19|| Front Page Top

#20  I mean, questioning genetic mythologies is not exactly a racist or bigoted thing.

It depends how it’s done, my dear. When you rely on hypotheses negated by subsequent, more accurate genetic testing, choosing to ignore subsequent results because of your prejudices, then it is.

As for apartheid in Israel, some 25% of Israelis are Arabs. More could become Israeli, eg. most of the residents of East Jerusalem, but choose not to — a rejection by the Arabs, not by the Jewish state. Arab holidays and language hold the same legal status in Israel as Jewish ones; Arab-Israelis can and do live legally in non-Arab cities and towns, while refusing to sell to Jews in Arab communities; and Arab-Israelis can and do go to school and join professions, including the judiciary, national politics, and the army — in all of which they have risen to the top of each. It is hard to cry apartheid when Arab-Israelis are supreme court judges, army generals, and ministers in the government, when Israel is represented in international beauty contests and Eurovision by Arab contestants that the Jewish population voted for. Apartheid is supposed to prevent all that, not encourage it.

Finally, while there are indeed Jews all over the world, and even more who don’t realize they have Jewish ancestry, there have been Jews living in Israel, generation after generation, since the former slaves returned to the land following Moses. Even the Assyrian and Babylonian conquests in the 6th century BC didn’t empty the land — the Samaritans are the descendants of the ten tribes of the northern kingdom of Israel, and their bible shows the connection, while the Old Testament Book of Ezra opens with the returnees from Persia meeting with Jews who had not been taken to exile in Babylonia in 586 BC, and there was active correspondence between the Jewish schools in Hebron and sages across the Diaspora. And Mark Twain, in his Innocents Abroad, wrote about the Jews he saw living in the Holy Land... and the sparsity of Arab communities therein.
Posted by trailing wife 2023-01-19 16:16||   2023-01-19 16:16|| Front Page Top

#21 Facts are a hard thing to get past for some, TW.
Posted by M. Murcek  2023-01-19 16:19||   2023-01-19 16:19|| Front Page Top

#22 /\ Agree, all. Should also be noted the followers of Methodism here in the States may be slightly different that the followers of Methodism in, let's say Nigeria.

Geography and the 'real world' views tend to vary.
Posted by Besoeker 2023-01-19 16:21||   2023-01-19 16:21|| Front Page Top

#23 Apartheid can best be understood as a system of prolonged and cruel discriminatory treatment by one racial group of members of another with the intention to control the second racial group.

Bold declaration.
Utah for the Utahians!
Hollywood for the Scientologists!
Posted by Skidmark 2023-01-19 17:39||   2023-01-19 17:39|| Front Page Top

#24 I think I've had enough internet for one day.

I feel such lightness of spirit knowing he's gone.
Posted by Skidmark 2023-01-19 17:44||   2023-01-19 17:44|| Front Page Top

#25 Or maybe it's the spirits.
Posted by Skidmark 2023-01-19 18:05||   2023-01-19 18:05|| Front Page Top

#26 OK
-sets down evening beverage-

Fulchner of Chartres, advisor to Baldwin I, after capturing Jerusalem suggests the destruction of State of Palestine before anyone can document its existance.

Fulchner, who is from France, is Eastern European because 800 years later Napoleon enters and occupies Eastern Europe on his way to Russia.
Posted by swksvolFF 2023-01-19 18:11||   2023-01-19 18:11|| Front Page Top

#27 We all have personal history/posting comments/context. I have f-load of comments back to 9/11 when I first found Fred's site. I've kept a nym and history throughout. When you post anonymously, I'm not required to grant you benefit of doubt or context. Fuck your sensitive feelings? Yes, because you haven't established consistency or trust. Grow up. Pick a nym, and be consistent, "Bill" and "Herman"
Posted by Frank G 2023-01-19 19:56||   2023-01-19 19:56|| Front Page Top

#28 I am disappointed that I am predictable. I need some introspection time with my stuffed Shamu.
Posted by Super Hose 2023-01-19 21:56||   2023-01-19 21:56|| Front Page Top

#29 And they're just giggling like schoolgirls that they hit some triggers.
Posted by Skidmark 2023-01-19 22:31||   2023-01-19 22:31|| Front Page Top

#30 The charge of Rantburgers being static in their views isn’t really valid. There have been plenty of pols, generals and policies that the group have soured on based on the facts which have been debated and stacked like cord wood over two decades and change. There really is no triggering the group unless you are talking about folks triggering claymores and laying down surprising fire. There are dissenters that stay. I remember a Murad from early on. Most find another place with people that don’t challenge them.
Posted by Super Hose 2023-01-19 22:52||   2023-01-19 22:52|| Front Page Top

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