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California Dreaming turns into a nightmare

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Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2009-01-13 03:22|| || Front Page|| [11131 views ] Top

#1 In part because of the boom in population in other Western states, California could lose a congressional seat for the first time in its history.

Of course they won't, because the politician is mightier than the pen by insisting that phantom and ghost citizens be 'factored' in to the count. It'll take a states convention under the Constitution with the other 2/3rd of smaller states to stop that abuse before anything is seriously done to execute a true census for proportional representation. Interesting how those phantom and ghost citizen aren't able to keep the state treasury filled to the politician expectations./sarcasm off

Posted by Procopius2k 2009-01-13 08:41|| 2009-01-13 08:41|| Front Page Top

#2 Please leave your politics in California.

Posted by bman 2009-01-13 10:48|| 2009-01-13 10:48|| Front Page Top

#3 Welcome to Weedpatch Camp, CO.

Posted by swksvolFF 2009-01-13 11:12|| 2009-01-13 11:12|| Front Page Top

#4 I agree with bman. Learn from the mistakes of unchecked liberalism and leave that decaying ideology at the border. Otherwise, stay in the "paradise" you assholes created.

Posted by DarthVader 2009-01-13 11:26|| 2009-01-13 11:26|| Front Page Top

#5 stay in the "paradise" you assholes created.

That's a bit harsh, DV, but I admit I used to feel the same way about New Yorkers when they were flooding out here in the 70's. I felt that way about people from Orange County and Los Angeles moving to San Diego but then, my wife is one of them. I still feel that way about the illegal aliens.

Californians are now the New Yorkers of the West. They used to have a bumper sticker in Oregon that said "Don't Californicate Oregon". I doubt if they still have it these days because so many Oregonians are from California.

But I learned that sometimes people move in masses and there isn't much the individual can do about it. The federal government, for instance, is directly responsible for immigration both legal and illegal. Other than vote for my congressman and senators, I have no control over that. Then I find out people who get elected are crooks.

Then there is the Community Reinvestment Act that I only learned about recently with the mortgage meltdown. There was a whole big push from all levels of government for "affordable housing". They kept telling us they needed to build more and more housing so poor people could afford homes but the reality became vast tracts of sticks and stucco that nobody can afford, crowded schools, crowded hospitals, congested freeways, smog and water shortages. I voted against it every time I could but the big money and the big government was against me. I could have run for office but the fix was in and I never would have won. I wouldn't have been a very good candidate anyway.

Most of my life I've spent scratching, clawing and struggling to establish a toehold of my own here but now that I have it I wonder why I didn't see what was becoming of it. Probably because I was too busy scratching, clawing and struggling.

I told you before, this used to be a much more conservative state than it is now. We gave you Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan. Remember? But the New Yorkers and the Mexicans changed all that. You heard it here first. Stop it where you live if you can.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2009-01-13 12:19|| 2009-01-13 12:19|| Front Page Top

#6 Harsh maybe, but more and more here in Colorado these ass-twat liberal Californians move out here, think we are backward ans want to make everything like it was back in California.

Um... didn't you morons leave because you DIDN'T like where you were?

Now granted there are a few that are not all liberal-wishy washy. We have two transplants in our office that are stark libertarians and hate liberals. But for the most part, I don't like 'em, don't want 'em and the majority of them can just right fuck off.

Posted by DarthVader 2009-01-13 12:36|| 2009-01-13 12:36|| Front Page Top

#7 Please leave your politics in California.

Trouble is, they don't. They move from the nest they fouled into new nests. Once they get settled they have a look around and decide that the new place just isn't like home.

So, they began to crap in the new nest by agitating and then voting for all the Liberal crap that hosed up where they once lived.

I've pretty much concluded that this country is lost without a very drastic overhaul and purge of the Leftist mindset. Of course, I realize that isn't going to happen until it is far too late to be of any meaningful use.

So, I am just trying to hang on long enough until I can retire to India. Already own the property, and the Indian wife is working on the citizenship angle for me. Hate to do it, but unless the To Arms, To Arms call goes out soon, I'm going to be abandoning this place to become the Socialist Paradise that it seems inevitable to become.

Posted by Spusosh the Prolific6862 2009-01-13 12:39|| 2009-01-13 12:39|| Front Page Top

#8 This is how the south became red.

Posted by Jack is Back">Jack is Back 2009-01-13 13:06|| 2009-01-13 13:06|| Front Page Top

#9 Jack, I have to respectfully disagree with you. When I lived in Georgia in the sixties besides AZ Barry Goldwater only carried the deep south states of SC, GA, AL, MS and LA. Many voted D because they had never recovered from the Civil War treatment dished out by the Carpetbagger Trunks.

Reagan showed them there was life after the Dem party.

Now the south is not as Red. Some states like North Carolina are turning pink and others like Florida and Virginia are Baby Blue.

The nest foulers are arriving in droves.

Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2009-01-13 13:34|| 2009-01-13 13:34|| Front Page Top

#10 Good luck, DV. I'm afraid you're gonna need it. Last time I drove from Denver to Colorado Springs it reminded me an awful lot of the Interstate 5 corridor through Orange County...that's just north of San Diego and it's not probably not what you want. Like I said, stop it if you can.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2009-01-13 14:13|| 2009-01-13 14:13|| Front Page Top

#11 I think comparing Californians to New Yorkers is a bit harsh....to the New Yorkers.

In AZ, all of the former Noo Yawkers just whined and bitched that there weren't any good Eyetalian joints, that it was too hot, blah blah blah, but they didn't try to futz with the laws and regs like the Californicators did.

Posted by Cornsilk Blondie 2009-01-13 14:39|| 2009-01-13 14:39|| Front Page Top

#12 Same thing going on in the NE there's just fewer people. NH is befouled by all the MA losers that cross the border.

The problem in all the places are the same. These bozoids don't understand the connection between their politics and the cess pool they create.

Posted by AlanC 2009-01-13 14:44|| 2009-01-13 14:44|| Front Page Top

#13 I think comparing Californians to New Yorkers is a bit harsh....to the New Yorkers.

Maybe. But scratch a Californian and you're likely to find that he's really a New Yorker. Hardly anyone in California past the age of 30 was actually born here.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2009-01-13 18:13|| 2009-01-13 18:13|| Front Page Top

#14 I wonder if the exodus is actually white-flight. Many state hispanics are aggressively unilingual. Others agitate for unity with Mexico. Reminder: Peru, Ecuador, Bolivia and Chile all maintain minefields around border areas. Good idea.

Posted by Harry Shising5856 2009-01-13 19:11|| 2009-01-13 19:11|| Front Page Top

#15 I live in NC, used to be you could count on NC to go red (well except governor). But now we've got so many damn New Yorkers it's crazy. I work in NASCAR and almost everyone I work with is from up north somewhere. Makes me sad

Posted by AllahHateME 2009-01-13 20:37|| 2009-01-13 20:37|| Front Page Top

#16 Oh, I ran two thoughts together. I know of 2 people in a building of 400 that voted for the big O. And one of them is a graphic designer, so that's a given. I'd say a large percentage of the NY transplants are liberal leaning, but we do get a fair amount of people from the western part of NY and they tend to be right decent folk. And we have a HUGE illegal alien problem.

Posted by AllahHateME 2009-01-13 20:39|| 2009-01-13 20:39|| Front Page Top

#17 born and raised - native san diegan - '59

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2009-01-13 21:18|| 2009-01-13 21:18|| Front Page Top

#18 Again, WORLD MIL FORUM {old] > US GDP is approxi US$14.0Trilyuhn, but the US also owes up to US$160.0Trilyuhn in [gross] international debts - EVEN IFF THE USGovt PAID OUT US#700.0BILYUHN A YEAR EVERY YEAR IN BAILOUT, IT WOULD TAKE ROUGHLY 180-200 YEARS FOR THE US TO PAYOFF ITS PRESENT DEBTS vv US GDP.

Thus the supports of several major world States for the USGovt = USTreasury Dept. TO DEV AND BEGIN USING "100-YEAR TREASURY BONDS", as oppos to its normal maxim 30-year plus Bonds???

Posted by JosephMendiola 2009-01-13 22:41|| 2009-01-13 22:41|| Front Page Top

#19 Joe, at some point that spells WAR (Wipe All (debt) Remittances).

Posted by Spike Uniter 2009-01-13 23:10|| 2009-01-13 23:10|| Front Page Top

#20 Ima fifth and last generation Californian. Ima jost goin back to visit me Mum and also Frank G. for barbeeque.

Posted by Alaska Paul in Haines, AK 2009-01-13 23:26|| 2009-01-13 23:26|| Front Page Top

#21 Hardly anyone in California past the age of 30 was actually born here

3rd generation, born in Oakland (it used to be a nice town). My kids were born in San Luis Obispo, but that may be the last of us. The invasion so many whine about has been our lives. Don't like "Cali"? (Shit, I hate that...) Stop moving here.

Posted by Gabby C. 2009-01-13 23:46|| 2009-01-13 23:46|| Front Page Top

#22 there is a reason we called the people moving into Colorado Californicaters.. they soiled the nest back there till the point it wasn't livable, so they moved to the peoples republic of boulder and tried it again... they wont quit till they F-up the whole place the they move on and do it some more.

only problem they ever see with socialism is that it needs to be tried yet one more time... maybe wit even more government control and nanyism

Posted by Abu do you love 2009-01-13 23:48|| 2009-01-13 23:48|| Front Page Top

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