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2008-01-11 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

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Posted by tu3031 2008-01-11 16:32|| || Front Page|| [11140 views ] Top

#1 Translation - 'There will be no more warning shots...'

Posted by Raj 2008-01-11 17:05|| 2008-01-11 17:05|| Front Page Top

#2 The next warning shot will be through the bow of the Iranian ship.

"You have been shot and are starting to sink. Please abandon ship or you will be shot again."

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2008-01-11 17:09|| 2008-01-11 17:09|| Front Page Top

#3 Talk, talk.

Recent "incident" wasn't. Didn't happen guys. Fairy tale you're all too happy to propagate.

Read all the news not just that that fits your bombing fetish.

Posted by didnthappenfools 2008-01-11 17:22|| 2008-01-11 17:22|| Front Page Top

#4 didnthappenfools - why do you say it didn't happen?

Posted by Glomogum Sproing2991 2008-01-11 17:26|| 2008-01-11 17:26|| Front Page Top

#5 I would not recommend that Iran pursue this direction

In light of the horrors of International Terror; unnecessary maneuvers during war and Nuclear Treaty resistance... are their two WORST cards!
And with memories of USS Cole (met with a small boat) they could likely be
Some of their last pursuits.

Posted by MB 2008-01-11 17:32|| 2008-01-11 17:32|| Front Page Top

#6 Ah. So we're fools.

I, for one, am swayed by the gentleman's elegant phraseology, politeness and command of the facts.

As if on cue, just read this on The Professor's blog.

Posted by Gabby Cussworth 2008-01-11 17:32|| 2008-01-11 17:32|| Front Page Top

#7 Let me try to follow the logic of the Iranians/skeptics here. The event didn't happen as the USN described, or didn't happen at all - allegedly akin to the Gulf of Tonkin incident. Or the USN doctored the video or recordings or intentions of the small boats. Thus, the warnings or defensive actions are unnecessary or actually provocative in reverse. And the continuing discussion only fans the flames and is a set up for future stronger actions.

OK - if that's close to what the current speculation is, what happens if the USN simply destroys the next such small boat visitors, and does so without comment, without announcement, without publicity, and perhaps even rescues the survivors, if any, and drops them off at the nearest dry land.

What then, international outrage? At what, a non-existing reply to a non-existing threat? Maybe the USN can play this game as well, which seems to be what Adm. Fallon didn't say, since of course the Iranians wouldn't want to trigger an unintended conflict over the loss of the next small boat approaching within five nm of transiting USN vessels.

Just sayin . . .

Posted by Halliburton - Non-Existing Small Boat Division 2008-01-11 18:13|| 2008-01-11 18:13|| Front Page Top

#8 From Youtube - claims to be an Iranian UAV video of US carrier

Posted by 3dc 2008-01-11 18:14|| 2008-01-11 18:14|| Front Page Top

#9 Give RuPaul and Alex Jones my regards.

Posted by doc 2008-01-11 18:33|| 2008-01-11 18:33|| Front Page Top

#10 Ok didnthappenfools, Kevin Sullivan is far more civil than I.

Such a case of BDS takes exceptional levels of gall and gullibility. Not only does it require you to ignore the Shia tradition of Taqiyya, but essentially requires you to believe in a massive top-to-bottom conspiracy that runs from the White House all the way down to the sailors themselves. Evasive measures were taken in order to account for these little cigarette boats. Such activity must be recorded, documented and approved for transparency. This would require the kind of coordinated conspiracy that would make a Truther proud. But I suppose reason is the first casualty to such a blurring hatred. Your president is a liar, your government is comprised of liars and the men and women serving for your protection are a bunch of liars, too. Who do we believe? Well, Ahmadinejad and his advisors, of course.

The incident in the Hormuz may well have been minor, a prank even. But the sailors reacted appropriately in our defense and theirs.

Posted by doc 2008-01-11 18:40|| 2008-01-11 18:40|| Front Page Top

#11 BBC > US-IRAN STANDOFF NOT MERE PROPAGANDA. Fear of USS VICENNES = Iran Airliner Shootdown incidennt redux? Plus, TOPIX > US ADMIRAL SAYS IRAN GUNBOATS INCIDENT SHOWS SHIFT IN IRAN TACTICS/STRATEGY.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-01-11 19:55|| 2008-01-11 19:55|| Front Page Top

#12 ION, WAFF > DEFENSE NEWS - RUSSIA'S WARSHISP RE-ESTABLIS A GLOBAL PRESENCE; + RIAN > RUSSIA'S ARM BIZ WOES IN 2008 PART I. Higher production rates, more and varied TOPOL-M strategic missle units, but still low on cash.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-01-11 20:44|| 2008-01-11 20:44|| Front Page Top

#13 What didn't happen was what was reported to have happened. So, something happened but it actually was nothing ... . I believe they call it yellow journalism or gullible journalists or just plain old sensationalism. Gotta pull in the slobs right? Give them something sexy even if utterly false.

Google this (you can find the interviewee so that you have to work for your ad hominem slur):

"Well, this alleged crisis or confrontation on the high seas is really much less than what met the eyes of the American public as it was reported by news media. And the story really began from leaks from the Pentagon. I mean, there were Pentagon officials apparently calling reporters and telling them that something had happened in the Strait of Hormuz, which represented a threat to American ships and that there was a near battle on the high seas. The way it was described to reporters, it was made to appear to be a major threat to the ships and a major threat of war. And thats the way it was covered by CNN, by CBS and other networks, as well as by print media.

Then I think the next major thing that happened was a briefing by the commander of the 5th fleet in Bahrain, the Vice Admiral Kevin Cosgriff, which is very interesting. If you look carefully at the transcript, which was not reported accurately by the media, or not reported at all practically, the commanderor rather, Vice Admiral Cosgriff actually makes it clear that the ships were never in danger, that they never believed they were in danger, and that they were never close to firing on the Iranian boats. And this is the heart of what actually happened, which was never reported by the US media.

So I think that the major thing to really keep in mind about this is that it was blown up into a semi-crisis by the Pentagon and that the media followed along very supinely. And I must say this is perhaps the worstthe most egregious case of sensationalist journalism in the service of the interests of the Pentagon, the Bush administration, that I have seen so far."

Posted by wakeupdorks 2008-01-11 20:47|| 2008-01-11 20:47|| Front Page Top

#14 DEBKA > claims the USS Harry Truman carrier has been placed on high alert in case of a repeat of the Iranian gunboat incident during dubya's visit. Also, THAT MOUD ENCOURAGED THE INCIDENT AND THAT THE USN BELIEVES IRAN MAY SEEK TO INITIATE FURTHER ACTS OF PROVOCATION [AFTER JAN 6th]???

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-01-11 20:51|| 2008-01-11 20:51|| Front Page Top

#15 "wakeup" = dorks on parade.

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-01-11 20:58|| 2008-01-11 20:58|| Front Page Top

#16 Hey Frank, we still need a back up door stop for the O club,

What doya Think, maybe DORKUMS could help out and volunteer for a few months... ??

Posted by RD">RD 2008-01-11 21:20|| 2008-01-11 21:20|| Front Page Top

#17 I'll have what wakey's drinking.

Posted by doc 2008-01-11 21:32|| 2008-01-11 21:32|| Front Page Top

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Posted by doc 2008-01-11 21:33|| 2008-01-11 21:33|| Front Page Top

#19 Dork and Fool are just like Rosie, mentally ill, paranoid schizophrenics crying out for help.

Posted by Whomong Guelph4611 2008-01-11 22:35|| 2008-01-11 22:35|| Front Page Top

#20 TOPIX > MICHEL CHUSSODOKSKY [GlobalResearch]- US WAR PLANS AND THE STRAITS OF HORMUZ INCIDENT - JUST WHOM IS THREATENING WHOM?

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-01-11 22:57|| 2008-01-11 22:57|| Front Page Top

#21 I think mebbe not smart enough for a doorstop

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-01-11 23:23|| 2008-01-11 23:23|| Front Page Top

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