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2005-01-11 Iraq-Jordan

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Posted by anonymous2u 2005-01-11 14:25|| || Front Page|| [11138 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Look for any member of the "Association of Muslim Scholars" first.

Posted by Brett_the_Quarkian 2005-01-11 2:42:29 PM|| 2005-01-11 2:42:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Would it be counterproductive to suggest that someone set up a website accepting donations for the Brigades of Iraqana? Half of me says this is a great idea, to unleash the prosperity of private US citizens to assist in stopping the insurgency. The other half wonders if supporting vigilante groups might undermine the formation of effective institutions under the nascent Iraqi government. Either way...if there were a way for us to finance this group, or provide a pool from which rewards for terrorists could be drawn, then I would feel that my dollars are being used much more effectively. Somewhere therein lies a market based solution...

Perhaps a matter of discussion at Rantapalooza!

Posted by mjh 2005-01-11 2:52:31 PM|| 2005-01-11 2:52:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 at least a toast to their success!!

Posted by TomAnon 2005-01-11 2:54:32 PM|| 2005-01-11 2:54:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 we must respect their culture and diversity.

Posted by 2b 2005-01-11 3:04:15 PM|| 2005-01-11 3:04:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 I am also trying to decide whether the formation of the "Bridages of Iraqana" suggests that Iraqis are starting to take ownership of their Iraqi national identity, and defending their nation against threats to its security, or whether it is simply another manifestation of sectarianism, sort of a Al-Sadr bridade redux? I guess more info is needed...

Posted by mjh 2005-01-11 3:08:45 PM|| 2005-01-11 3:08:45 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 The other half wonders if supporting vigilante groups might undermine the formation of effective institutions under the nascent Iraqi government.

Who sez they are a vigilante group? Maybe this is the rumored american-backed Death Squad?

Posted by Steve 2005-01-11 3:22:24 PM|| 2005-01-11 3:22:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 As I said..."I guess more info is needed"

Posted by mjh 2005-01-11 4:05:50 PM|| 2005-01-11 4:05:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 If the Iraqana kill AQ and AIF and increase stability while decreasing terrorists I'd be honored to throw in a few bucks.

Posted by Rightwing 2005-01-11 4:16:17 PM|| 2005-01-11 4:16:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Seems to me I heard similiar noises in Febraury/March 2004. That turned out to be Sadr, the puppet dancing from one hand of Iran, while Zarqawi danced from the other.

Posted by Dishman 2005-01-11 5:16:02 PM|| 2005-01-11 5:16:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 93rd Volunteer Infantry, reporting for duty . . .

Posted by Mike 2005-01-11 5:53:55 PM|| 2005-01-11 5:53:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 The Feds might look askance on any moneys going from US citizens to foreign parts for any non governmental purpose even if the intentions are good.

I beleive it's a federal offence.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2005-01-11 9:53:10 PM|| [http://www.slhess.com] 2005-01-11 9:53:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Sounds good, but then so did Castro in 1959. Let's wait and see what the lads accomplish.

Posted by RWV 2005-01-11 10:39:31 PM|| 2005-01-11 10:39:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 As I said a few weeks back -- only to be lectured on things I didn't intend or say by one of our vigilant nitpicking small-picture NYT-level commenters who shall remain nameless -- a whole lot more pay-back and revenge-killing by Shi'a and Kurds might be quite beneficial to Iraq in the long run. There's been a remarkable and very disappointing lack of same since April '03. Recall that Japan and Germany were much easier to pacify and transform in part because such huge percentages of their hardcore a**holes were dead by war's end.

Vigilantism directed against genocidal fascist thugs in the current Iraqi context would hardly be a material obstacle to building institutions -- in fact spreading the love to mafia types might help give the fledgling police more time to gain their footing.

The corruption, passivity, and lack of trusted leadership that plague Iraq's attempts to build an effective and decent police force are serious obstacles, but some well-executed vigilantism against Sunni revanchists (and criminal elements of all stripes) will not affect these fundamental factors.

Posted by Verlaine 2005-01-11 11:22:46 PM|| 2005-01-11 11:22:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 I doubt if the Iraqi Police will waste many tears and much time investigating the deaths of the people who try to kill them and their families. Payback's a bitch guys.

Posted by RWV 2005-01-12 12:00:54 AM|| 2005-01-12 12:00:54 AM|| Front Page Top

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