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2009-01-10 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

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Posted by tu3031 2009-01-10 00:10|| || Front Page|| [11135 views ] Top

#1 Considering the exposure time is essentially infinite, one would think the Israelis would be able to see the tunnels through use of advanced ground penetrating radar and image processing.

Posted by Penguin 2009-01-10 01:58|| 2009-01-10 01:58|| Front Page Top

#2 If it is packed with explosives then by all means set it off by remote means and see who comes running...

Posted by 3dc 2009-01-10 02:05|| 2009-01-10 02:05|| Front Page Top

#3 Bah, just fill the tunnels with Carbon monoxide gas and then see how many bodies you can find in it later. Honestly, persistant nerve agents are better but CO will do the job.

Posted by Silentbrick">Silentbrick 2009-01-10 03:01|| 2009-01-10 03:01|| Front Page Top

#4 They have a large reserve force and the Palestinian neighborhood soon rustles with officers who have come to join the fighting. "I couldn't stay home when the guys are fighting," said Omri

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The reserves can opt in by their own volition? How does that work?

Posted by .5MT 2009-01-10 06:32|| www.cybernations.net]">[www.cybernations.net] 2009-01-10 06:32|| Front Page Top

#5 I like the part when the paleos claim to have no food while a stack of provisions is in clear site. Typical victim mentality.

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2009-01-10 09:29|| 2009-01-10 09:29|| Front Page Top

#6 *

US consigns 3,000 tonnes of "ammunition" to Israel

January 10, 2009, 11:22 AM (GMT+02:00)

The US Navy's Military Sealift Command is hiring a merchant ship to carry the arms on two separate journeys from the Greek port of Astakos to Israel in mid-to-late January, according to Reuters. A 'hazardous material" designation on the manifest mentions explosive substances and detonators, but no other details. One broker said that the size of a shipment of this kind has not been seen for years. DEBKAfile's military sources note that the Israel's air, ground, tank and sea offensive against Hamas in Gaza entered its 15th day Saturday, Jan. 10.

Posted by 3dc 2009-01-10 09:55|| 2009-01-10 09:55|| Front Page Top

#7 silentbrick,
Wouldn't detonating the explosives simultaneously remove the oxygen and fill the tunnel with CO and CO2?

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2009-01-10 09:59|| 2009-01-10 09:59|| Front Page Top

#8 Explosives usually bring their own oxygen to the show, for example, ammonium nitrate:

[NH4}+ [NO3]-

3 Oxygen atoms provide the combusion with the hydrogen to make steam, but you can also get lots of noxious compounds, to with the nitrogen atoms around.

If you want to suck the oxygen out of the tunnel, then use a FAE explosive, or napalm, which is not in vogue now.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2009-01-10 12:28|| 2009-01-10 12:28|| Front Page Top

#9 Detonating the explosives kills a few. By filling it with CO gas, you get more than a few. They won't want to give those up and will keep trying to get it and I doubt many of the scum are familiar enough with CO to recognize why people who go in don't come out. Besides, if it explodes, they know it's Israel or a work accident. If they don't explode and anyone going in just never comes out, it has far better effects psychologically on them.

Posted by Silentbrick">Silentbrick 2009-01-10 12:40|| 2009-01-10 12:40|| Front Page Top

#10 How about connecting Gaza tunnel system to the Mediterranean sea: Hamas "fighters" would be able to hide from Zionists and take swim lessons at the same time?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2009-01-10 12:48|| 2009-01-10 12:48|| Front Page Top

#11

Good enough g(r)omgoru ?

Posted by 3dc 2009-01-10 14:46|| 2009-01-10 14:46|| Front Page Top

#12 CO has the same density as air (essentially N2) and will diffuse quickly and lose it's concentration. you need a heavier molecule that will stay settled in the tunnel. i suggest propane (without the mercaptin(sp?) that usually makes it smell) odorless and heavier than air it is a fatal atmosphere to breathe for very long.

Posted by Abu do you love 2009-01-10 15:30|| 2009-01-10 15:30|| Front Page Top

#13 But Abu, what happens when the gophers light up a smoke?

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2009-01-10 15:46|| 2009-01-10 15:46|| Front Page Top

#14 Argon.

Posted by Deacon Blues 2009-01-10 16:00|| 2009-01-10 16:00|| Front Page Top

#15 LOL! 3dc

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2009-01-10 16:34|| 2009-01-10 16:34|| Front Page Top

#16 Do what we used to do to gophers when we were kids: calcium carbide in water, let er bubble, then light er off. Bloody hell underground when the acetylene gas explodes.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2009-01-10 18:18|| 2009-01-10 18:18|| Front Page Top

#17 You had ~~all the fun~~ a very interesting childhood, AP. ;-p

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2009-01-10 19:11|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/] 2009-01-10 19:11|| Front Page Top

#18 AP used to waterboard rodents, just to teach the others a lesson

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2009-01-10 19:18|| 2009-01-10 19:18|| Front Page Top

#19 Halon - but I'm a 70's kind of guy.

Posted by GORT 2009-01-10 21:30|| 2009-01-10 21:30|| Front Page Top

#20 It's spelled 'mercaptan', Abu, because chemicals of that class (with the -SH group) are able to capture mercury atoms and detoxify them. That they smell like s^%t is, in fact, because s^%t contains the methyl mercaptan, CH₃SH.

Posted by Eric Jablow">Eric Jablow 2009-01-10 21:40|| 2009-01-10 21:40|| Front Page Top

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