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2007-01-10 Iraq

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Posted by Sherry 2007-01-10 12:58|| || Front Page|| [11127 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 The right kind of change to the ROE? One that includes ass-kicking and name-taking? Please?

Posted by Jonathan">Jonathan 2007-01-10 13:15|| 2007-01-10 13:15|| Front Page Top

#2 One can only hope so, Jonathon!

Posted by BA 2007-01-10 13:18|| 2007-01-10 13:18|| Front Page Top

#3 I would suspect that Maliki and company have told us to not interfere with Tater and his tots. However, we have proof that they are planning serious mischief, so we have told Maliki that either we dispatch Sadr or Sadr is going to overthrow Maliki.

That is something even he can understand.

Posted by Anonymoose 2007-01-10 13:24|| 2007-01-10 13:24|| Front Page Top

#4 From National Review:

Preview of tonight's speech [Mona Charen]
Based on a just-completed White House background briefing, it looks like the Presidents new Iraq strategy to be unveiled tonight looks promising.

The Administration recognizes a lot of what has gone wrong, for example, that is was unrealistic to assume that political progress could be made while the security situation remained so ghastly. The new emphasis is on security first. Five new American brigades will be sent to Baghdad to work with new Iraqi brigades securing the capital block by block. Unclear whether this will be sufficient force. Rules of engagement also to change so that there will be no more areas off limits to American forces.

The President also plans to ask for a larger army a little late and so necessary! It will be interesting to see how the Democrats in Congress handle that one. All that talk of supporting the troops. . .

Possible problem areas: the strategy still depends heavily on Malikis bona fides. They believe his heart is the right place but he has suffered from lack of capabilities. Thats a gamble. There is also a regional component to the new strategy that seems to rely on another push for Israeli/Palestinian cooperation (Rice is traveling to Middle East within the week). That sounds like Baker/Hamilton bunk, but lets see what she says.

Still, most of it sounds exactly right.

Posted by Sherry 2007-01-10 13:29|| 2007-01-10 13:29|| Front Page Top

#5 Rules of engagement also to change so that there will be no more areas off limits to American forces.

Great! But, if they can't unload a round into somebody when they get there... what would be the benefit to simply being there?

I suppose if even if they DID loosen up that rule, they wouldn't go on national TV and say it... they'd just do it.

Posted by eLarson 2007-01-10 13:44|| http://larsonian.blogspot.com]">[http://larsonian.blogspot.com] 2007-01-10 13:44|| Front Page Top

#6 The right kind of change to the ROE? One that includes ass-kicking and name-taking?

Honestly, I don't care about the name-taking.

Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford 2007-01-10 13:52|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2007-01-10 13:52|| Front Page Top

#7 So can one hope that the "no more areas off limits" include mosques?

Posted by USN, Ret. 2007-01-10 13:55|| 2007-01-10 13:55|| Front Page Top

#8 One can only hope that, USN, but if we take fire from a Mosque, we level the fucker.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2007-01-10 14:51|| 2007-01-10 14:51|| Front Page Top

#9 The right kind of change to the ROE? One that includes ass-kicking and name-taking?

These guys aint rookies anymore. They know who to shoot and why. Just let them off the leash, including their ~~ammo dumps~~ mosques.

And no more name taking or kicked asses. Just bad guys who show up at a morgue or at fertilizer plants with a hole in their gut would be nice. Don't return foreign fighters except maybe in anonymous zip-lock baggies.

Tap their cell phones and bug the mosques. Lay traps, set bait, play dead/injured and surprise them. Keep them guessing. Pay $200 for every tip that works out because it's cheaper than sending a squad out to look for clues. Set up a system so you could get tips without the tippers risking being exposed. And start using that MOAB or better yet a smaller variant. Let 'em know who's boss.

Posted by gorb 2007-01-10 15:02|| 2007-01-10 15:02|| Front Page Top

#10 "Kick ass. And if you have time, take names."

To misquote Adm. Nimitz:
"If you're a conqueror, conquer. Don't pussy-foot around and worry about bruised feelings."

Posted by mojo">mojo 2007-01-10 15:07|| 2007-01-10 15:07|| Front Page Top

#11 Ah did anyone else see this ad on the side bar? WTF?

"How to Convert to Islam"

Posted by Icerigger 2007-01-10 15:20|| 2007-01-10 15:20|| Front Page Top

#12 No, did not see it, I don'tlook at them ads unless there's a purdy grrl.

Posted by twobyfour 2007-01-10 15:29|| 2007-01-10 15:29|| Front Page Top

#13 Nope, all I'm gettin' is:

"Why mommy is a democrat" lol!

Posted by BA 2007-01-10 15:37|| 2007-01-10 15:37|| Front Page Top

#14 H/T B5 comments
Word on the street is that our new first Muslem house member is giving the rebuttal to the president's speach tonight.

Posted by Sherry 2007-01-10 16:05|| 2007-01-10 16:05|| Front Page Top

#15 If I was president my ROE to the General would be very simple and of course I would get a OK from the gen Pop here in the state in my speech goes a little something like this

"General Petreas, Your new ROE are WIN first second major is do best to keep US casualty low but make primary WIN happen" "if you need anything between here and there let me know I will order it and rally support, Victory is our ROE PERIOD Clear".

Posted by C-Low 2007-01-10 16:30|| 2007-01-10 16:30|| Front Page Top

#16 I make it a point to click on the leftie / otherwise not-my-cup-of-tea ads. (From my home 'puter). Let the losers put a few extra shekels in Fred's jar.

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2007-01-10 16:38|| 2007-01-10 16:38|| Front Page Top

#17 Better late than never. Still sounds weak. Any changes to the ROE that does not include opening fire on Iran is not going to be enough.

Posted by Excalibur 2007-01-10 16:50|| 2007-01-10 16:50|| Front Page Top

#18 And Syria.

Posted by Dave D.">Dave D. 2007-01-10 17:09|| 2007-01-10 17:09|| Front Page Top

#19 Here's the WH press release in advance of tonight's speech: Fact Sheet: The New Way Forward in Iraq.

Doesn't exactly make me feel all warm and tingly inside: there's not a word about any new, more aggressive ROE.

Pfeh...

Posted by Dave D.">Dave D. 2007-01-10 17:18|| 2007-01-10 17:18|| Front Page Top

#20 Let's wait for the action. Even if they are going to a shoot first and let Allan sort them out ROE, they probably won't say it... they'll just do it.

(or not, of course, but I don't see a lot of advantage in blabbing about it beforehand.)

Posted by eLarson 2007-01-10 17:32|| http://larsonian.blogspot.com]">[http://larsonian.blogspot.com] 2007-01-10 17:32|| Front Page Top

#21

twobyfour : No, did not see it, I don'tlook at them ads unless there's a purdy grrl.

Posted by BigEd 2007-01-10 18:00|| 2007-01-10 18:00|| Front Page Top

#22 I have been meaning to say something about that ad. She has a fine, fine pair of tits. There, I said it.

Posted by Excalibur 2007-01-10 19:05|| 2007-01-10 19:05|| Front Page Top

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