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2008-01-06 Southeast Asia

Bali bomber feels 'beautiful' facing end

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Posted by tipper 2008-01-06 06:29|| || Front Page|| [11133 views ] Top
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#1 Hell, I'd even turn out for this guy's funeral.

Posted by Jack is Back!">Jack is Back! 2008-01-06 09:13|| 2008-01-06 09:13|| Front Page Top

#2 Mukhlas at his hanging:

"I feel pretty! Oh so pretty! I feel pretty and witty and wiiiiiiise (ACKKKKK!)"

Posted by WTF 2008-01-06 10:49|| 2008-01-06 10:49|| Front Page Top

#3 Probably for the first time in his life.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2008-01-06 12:37|| 2008-01-06 12:37|| Front Page Top

#4 "If we are executed, then our drops of blood that flow - with God's permission - will become light for those good Muslims and will become hell burning fire for those who are not Muslims and the hypocrites,"

I'd bet that the permision won't be given. By God, that is, not by Allan.

he feels so "beautiful" on the eve of his execution that "no words can describe how good the feeling is"

Enjoy, won't last.

People don't understand what Hell is. It is not a place of consuming fire and of demons shredding your internal organs. You may think you have a body, but you don't. There are no internals, nor limbs.

It's a junction outside space and time where your actions and intents would be replayed, with all the pain that your victims felt, unadulterated, raw, in full force. Outside time, it would feel like eternity.

Posted by twobyfour 2008-01-06 14:26|| 2008-01-06 14:26|| Front Page Top

#5 There is an upside, and a downside, in twobyfour's hell (which he happened not to mention).

The upside first: you will be periodically given the opportunity to tear into the guts of those who deceived you, starting with Mohammed, causing them great pain as you screech at them for misleading you.

Please take a number.

Now the downside. The people you deceived with be periodically given the opportunity to tear into your guts, causing you great pain as they screech at you for misleading them.

Your former fans await you...

Posted by Ptah">Ptah 2008-01-06 15:19|| http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]">[http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org] 2008-01-06 15:19|| Front Page Top

#6 I thought it was other people?

Posted by Thomas Woof 2008-01-06 17:10|| 2008-01-06 17:10|| Front Page Top

#7 Ptah, you are making this up. No.

No guts. Granted, some souls do tend to get stuck in the transposition of their baggage into the next world. But that is their construct, a facade that for some reason they are unable to let go of. They would be creating their own torment. It would have nothing to do with anyone else.

You stand confronted with your maker, it's between you and your maker alone. You are your own judge--you are given means to do the job--a mirror that reflects your life, but with a superb clarity and with causal connections totally un-obscured. Many orders of magnitude real than your lifetime experiences.

Once again, this is outside of time. If your actions have causal consequences beyond your lifetime, you'll get them too, served on a plater.
Bad and good.

I am sorry I can't present something more than a terribly reduced glimpse. But if you had some experience that allowed a peek into workings of this mechanism, you'd know that there is no room for vengeance, for that you would turn against yourself.

The mechanism is perfect.

Posted by twobyfour 2008-01-06 17:14|| 2008-01-06 17:14|| Front Page Top

#8 Two by four, your description of hell has to be one of the best I've read in many years. An honest question, is this treatise yours, or is it something you read or got from someone else. The reason for the question is I would like to use it in my 6th, 7th and 8th grade religion classes, and I want to be able to give credit where credit is due. Lemme' know wassup' iffen' you can. Pardon the slip into street dialect; sometimes my inner city student's speech and writing rubs off on me.

Posted by WolfDog">WolfDog 2008-01-06 18:40|| 2008-01-06 18:40|| Front Page Top

#9 That is pretty ... intense, twobyfour. I'm gonna have to go over it a few times before it gels.

Thoughtful....

Posted by Tony (UK) 2008-01-06 19:12|| 2008-01-06 19:12|| Front Page Top

#10 Heaven is the ultimate eternal celebration. Hell is eternally knowing they're having the ultimate eternal celebration -- and you aren't going.

Posted by Darrell 2008-01-06 19:30|| 2008-01-06 19:30|| Front Page Top

#11 If you tell yourself something over & over & over & over & over again, pretty soon your going to start believing it. This guy is dilusional, just like the rest of em'.

Burn in hell you piece of crap

Posted by Oztralian 2008-01-06 19:34|| 2008-01-06 19:34|| Front Page Top

#12 WolfDog, the desciption is mine, if I can claim the ownership... because it was not me who set that up.

There is a whole body of literature that somewhat corroborates the concepts I described, albeit due to difficulties of human language, it is always rather fuzzy and for he most part fragmented and colored by a framework of concepts of the individual's philosophy.

I had an acident as a child, at the age of 9. The release mechanism was triggered, although I were not nearly as dead. You may say I were given a tour. It was, thankfully, free of religious overlays. Maybe because I grew up in atheist environment, I did not have any firm beliefs formed, yet. Raw deal.

There is much more, in what transpires before and after the final judgement--in a causal, not in time flow sense, but thigs are really hard to translate from concepts that are rather alien to our way of sorting out the reality.

The term final judgement used above is not a mis-label. One again, I am talking a causal relationship, not a timeline relationship. In that timeless domain, the concept of time is a mere direction of a thought.

By all means, use the description as you see fit. After all, I was just an accidental observer, and despite that the experience was personal, its essence does not have an ownership.

Posted by twobyfour 2008-01-06 19:59|| 2008-01-06 19:59|| Front Page Top

#13 Some have premonitions about 2x4's scenario. Thjey can last a lifetime.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-01-06 20:10|| 2008-01-06 20:10|| Front Page Top

#14 Live or die, I'll make a million

---Eebus Kineebus, Firesign Theater

Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul 2008-01-06 21:19|| 2008-01-06 21:19|| Front Page Top

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