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2007-01-04 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

Stennis To Join Eisenhower And Boxer In Gulf

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Posted by Anonymoose 2007-01-04 07:44|| || Front Page|| [11143 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Anyone for Stennis?

Posted by Eric Jablow">Eric Jablow 2007-01-04 09:01|| 2007-01-04 09:01|| Front Page Top

#2 Well...that puts at least 90+ F18s well within striking distance of Irans' oil fields and platforms.

CenCom requested the additional battle group, eh? That's very interesting...

Posted by FOTSGreg">FOTSGreg 2007-01-04 10:30|| www.fire-on-the-suns.com]">[www.fire-on-the-suns.com] 2007-01-04 10:30|| Front Page Top

#3 Tally Ho!

Posted by Warthog 2007-01-04 11:11|| 2007-01-04 11:11|| Front Page Top

#4 Don't we usually keep 2 carriers in the region?

And what is the Boxer? USMC Expeditionary Group?

Posted by Anon4021 2007-01-04 11:58|| 2007-01-04 11:58|| Front Page Top

#5 Think it's a worthless ugly garbage scow named after Barbara Boxer ;)

Posted by Warthog 2007-01-04 12:22|| 2007-01-04 12:22|| Front Page Top

#6 The USS Boxer's a Wasp-Class LHD - Dock Landing Ship/Helicopter platform. The history goes back to the War of 1812. Go here for more info.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2007-01-04 13:17|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2007-01-04 13:17|| Front Page Top

#7 it's a worthless ugly garbage scow named after Barbara Boxer

LOL!

Really, why is the Boxer there? Isn't it supposed to deliver EGs or something? Are they using it as some kind of carrier? Are they swapping out some Marines?

Posted by gorb 2007-01-04 14:17|| 2007-01-04 14:17|| Front Page Top

#8 Fots:Call me nostalgic, but if the Intruders hadn't been sacrificed at the altar of the "one size fits all" lawn dart, there would be no reason to even have a CV inside the gulf as the "skypig" not only had longer legs than the hornet but also had a bigger payload carrying capacity. 15K worth of ordnance and still had 16K internal fuel, or you could hang 4 drop tanks and a buddy store on one and provide all sorts of IFR capacity (26K of fuel)to those dragging the bombs around. show me a lawn dart with the same numbers.

Posted by USN, Ret. 2007-01-04 14:55|| 2007-01-04 14:55|| Front Page Top

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Posted by wxjames 2007-01-04 15:15|| 2007-01-04 15:15|| Front Page Top

#10 'bout time for some LLL human shields to protect those poor poor uranium centrifuges.

Posted by DMFD 2007-01-04 18:37|| 2007-01-04 18:37|| Front Page Top

#11 Wouldn't need carriers at all if we hadn't scrapped the battleships.

Nothing warms the cockles of my heart more than a good Alpha strike. Go 'truders!

Posted by Chuck Simmins">Chuck Simmins 2007-01-04 20:37|| http://northshorejournal.org]">[http://northshorejournal.org] 2007-01-04 20:37|| Front Page Top

#12 Whats over TAIWAN = NORTH KOREA ways???

Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-01-04 21:10|| 2007-01-04 21:10|| Front Page Top

#13 if the Intruders hadn't been sacrificed at the altar of the "one size fits all" lawn dart,

I was under the impression the Interuders had reached end-of-life due to the stresses of carrier ops. The EW variant is flying, I believe, since they weren't as heavily loaded. Feel free to correct any misunderstandings on my part since you are obviously closer to the problem.

The A-6s had some impressive capabilities as a bomb truck. Seems like a shame not to replace them with something as functional. Maybe everyone simply punted after the A-12 mess?

Posted by SteveS 2007-01-04 21:19|| 2007-01-04 21:19|| Front Page Top

#14 SteveS: While the stresses of carrier ops were in play, the Boeing plastic winged A-6s were doing a superb job. That's right, Boeing beat out Grumman for the rewing effort. There was a coule of upgrades on the table an also in flying status, the Block 50 SWIP and the A6-F. The SWIP had a lot of EA-6 B Prowler ECM stuff as well as some other (still classified I believe) goodies, while the 'F' was basically a re-engined 'E' with more bombing capabilities as well as a glass cockpit. The engines were the -408s from the Prowler. Now all this was going on at the same time as the F-A 18 early variants were being scrutinized for cost / perfromance overruns ( read 'Pentagon Paradox for a complete and saddening rundown on what our tax $$ bought) as well as the A-12 Avenger II Stealth bomber. The A-12 ( flying Dorito) was something like 5000 ounds overweight and many millions of dollars over budget. Something had to go and the majority of Dorito heavies were old A-6 / F-14 bubbas, (some personal opinion inserted here) after the A-12 got axed, the senior NAVAIR types were all of the Light Attack Mafia (A-7 and Hornets) so they pulled the plug on the Intruder. There are something like 100 (plastic wing) still in war reserve in the Davis-Mothan Boneyard, and about 33 or so off the coast of St. Augustine Florida, forming the 'Intruder Reef.' The remainder have been cannibalized for Prowler compatible parts ( not many) or placed in the Foreign Military Sales used airplane lot. They have had the weapson system stripped and were being advertised as visual bombing or tankers only ( as of about 2 yrs ago).
Yeah they weren't stealthy, but stand in the bullseye at Nellis and have a flight of 12 come at you ont of the sun, and even knowing that the racks were empty, it still made you want to find a (big) rock to crawl under when they blasted over @ about 100 ft and 450 kts. better than sex, it was!

Posted by USN, ret. 2007-01-04 22:36|| 2007-01-04 22:36|| Front Page Top

#15 Be it via "Nuclear Victory" celebration come February 2007, or any appearance by the Imam/Mahdi this Spring Equinox, iff Dubya follows thru on "FORTRESS IRAQ/ISRAEL/ME" scenarios, Iran will have to either forsake its support for Iraqi-and other regional insurgent efforts, OR ELSE INITIATE=LAUNCH NEW ATTACKS IN ME + WORLD, INCLUD INSIDE AMERICA, to "SAVE FACE". e.g. Amer Hiroshimas/new 9-11's. Moud vs Dubya > WHOM WILL "BLINK FIRST" ala Cuban Missle Crisis + JFK-Kruschev. IMO Dubya knows there is risk of himself glowing-in-the-dark or by other BCWar means, but Radical Islam-Terror can't be allowed to possess Nukes/WMDS. GOTTA ADMIRE DUBYA FOR THAT.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-01-04 22:43|| 2007-01-04 22:43|| Front Page Top

#16 ...when they blasted over @ about 100 ft and 450 kts. better than sex, it was!

I bet it was! Thanks for the inside info, USN, ret. I've always had a fanboy love for the A-6.

Posted by SteveS 2007-01-04 23:23|| 2007-01-04 23:23|| Front Page Top

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Posted by wxjames 2007-01-04 15:15|| 2007-01-04 15:15|| Front Page Top

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