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Wouldn't extending the benefits make the unemployment figures much much worse? Since the vast majority of it's so-called 'improvement' is due to people running out of benefits and no longer being counted.
#3
The underlying principle involved here relates to the well known economic fact that if you have a person dig a hole, and have another person fill in the freshly-dug hole, you've created two jobs.
I'm pretty sure Marx talked about exactly this in Das Kapital.
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Could anyone explain to me how this works? Is everyone in Washington insane?
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"Could anyone explain to me how this works? Is everyone in Washington insane?" -- JohnQC
No. Yes.
Posted by: Barbara ||
12/14/2012 17:13 Comments ||
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Is everyone in Washington insane?" Ummm, yes.
Posted by: Redneck Jim ||
12/14/2012 17:45 Comments ||
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Perhaps not everyone, but Mostly.
Especially those with a "D" Gesignation, to rule, not with for justice for all, but for some.
Posted by: Redneck Jim ||
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I was curious what might be said here on the berg. I was at a loss for words myself. This current administration will have no qualms supporting this.
#1
"One of the problems of the crisis is that it was caused by government intervention with fiscal and monetary measures."
The Romney campaign never challenged Obama's narrative that vaguely defined 'greed' was the cause for the crisis.
An oversight, perhaps just incompetence.
But maybe they didn't wish to attack government interference per se because they never intended to forswear interference and diminish the power of the political class.
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Arguments like this fall flat on their face from the beginning They don't pass the giggle test..
You're spot on gromky. Maybe I should have spotted his tongue in cheek in his June 2008 newsletter which had the following mock quote:
"The federal government is sending each of us a $600 rebate. If we spend that money at Wal-Mart, the money goes to China. If we spend it on gasoline it goes to the Arabs. If we buy a computer it will go to India. If we purchase fruit and vegetables it will go to Mexico, Honduras and Guatemala. If we purchase a good car it will go to Germany. If we purchase useless crap it will go to Taiwan and none of it will help the American economy. The only way to keep that money here at home is to spend it on prostitutes and beer, since these are the only products still produced in US. I've been doing my part."
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But maybe they didn't wish to attack government interference per se because they never intended to forswear interference and diminish the power of the political class.
#5
Krugman could go to Cuba. It's much closer. However, North Korea would give the full effect of totalitarianism in a cold environment. I noticed the Nork leader is a bit chubby whereas most of the people are not. Some don't do so badly.
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I noticed the Nork leader is a bit chubby whereas most of the people are not. Some don't do so badly.
The problems with liberals (including Krugman) is that they are firmly convinced that they would fit in the 'not so badly' category like Kim Pugsly there.
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As long as Kruggie gets to keep the big house, the seven figure salary, and the limo ride to work, I think he'd be fine with it. Weather in Cuba is nicer though...
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You saps don't understand the need to arm against Alien Invasion, Krugman do, and by arm I mean give money to the right people to save us from 8-armed cheep labour from Alpha Mongo, you know the ones, the crazy looking ones with the mattress strapped to the outside of their saucer, ready to do any kind of menial labor at a good price. Scabs From Beyond the Galaxy busting scale in Michigan.
#10
If Krugman went to North Korea, he would go as a guest of the NK government. He would live in a government supplied house in a Potemkin village. He would live luxuriously, then come back to report how wonderful it was.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia ||
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the best solution is to get him alone with starving villagers. Krugman soup. Once you get by the bitter asshole stupid taste, it might be emaciatingly nutricious
Posted by: Frank G ||
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[Dawn] "ON the one side is the army, they enter houses without any warnings and arrest people without any reason. On the other hand everyone is terrified of the Taliban; at any time they might kidnap you, or kill you. Everyone was saying that the army will come and improve the situation in Bajaur but instead people are as frightened of the army [as they were of] the Taliban."
These are the words of Rostum Khan, a villager from Bajaur Agency, aka Turban Central ...Smallest of the agencies in FATA. The Agency administration is located in Khar. Bajaur is inhabited almost exclusively by Tarkani Pashtuns, which are divided into multiple bickering subtribes. Its 52 km border border with Afghanistan's Kunar Province makes it of strategic importance to Pakistain's strategic depth... in Pakistain's north-western tribal areas -- they reflect the harsh daily reality facing millions of people in the region.
In 2009, the Pakistain armed forces launched a series of military operations in the tribal areas to reclaim territory that was under the control of gangs. Three years later, despite a relative lull in the direct fighting between the army and the Taliban, there has been no let-up for the people there.
In an extensively researched report, released today by Amnesia Amnesty International, a disturbing pattern of violations by Pak forces -- from torture and other ill-treatment to enforced disappearance -- reveals the failure of Pakistain's authorities to address the fundamental lawlessness of the tribal areas.
Like Rostum Khan, many feel trapped between the worst of both worlds -- by threats from the Taliban on the one hand, and from the risk of arbitrary detention and enforced disappearance on the other. Many who hoped the situation would improve after 2009 are badly disillusioned.
Thousands of men and boys have been tossed in the clink Drop the rod and step away witcher hands up! by the security forces for long periods with little or no access to due process safeguards.
Many of them are subjected to enforced disappearance -- they are kept without access to family, lawyers, the courts and with no information about their fate and whereabouts. On any given day, the Beautiful Downtown Peshawar ...capital of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (formerly known as the North-West Frontier Province), administrative and economic hub for the Federally Administered Tribal Areas of Pakistan. Peshawar is situated near the eastern end of the Khyber Pass, convenient to the Pak-Afghan border. Peshawar has evolved into one of Pakistan's most ethnically and linguistically diverse cities, which means lots of gunfire. High Court is full of relatives desperately trying to find any information on their loved ones.
Others swept up by the army allege being tortured or otherwise ill-treated in jug. Former detainees we talked to described being at the receiving end of daily savage beatings for several weeks, or even months, at a time.
Some never return alive -- Amnesia Amnesty International has documented several cases of deaths in military custody. Almost every week, bodies of those detained are returned to their families, or simply found dumped across the tribal areas.
Equally disturbing is the almost complete failure of Pakistain's authorities to effectively investigate these cases as required under international law. As far as Amnesia Amnesty International is aware, no effective investigation has been conducted into any of the cases documented in the report.
The infamous case of the so-called Adiala 11 is both an illustrative and chilling example of the situation.
The 11 men were first unlawfully detained by security personnel in 2007 and 2008 in different parts of Pakistain. In May 2010, they were kidnapped from Rawalpindi's Adiala prison by gunnies -- right in front of family members waiting for their release, which had been ordered by the Lahore High Court.
It wasn't until relatives brought their case to the Supreme Court in 2011 that the armed forces admitted that the men were still in state custody. After further pressure, seven of the Adiala 11 were dramatically brought before the Supreme Court in February 2012 in visibly poor physical condition -- the other four had died in unknown circumstances that have yet to be effectively investigated. The seven survivors remain in state custody, with serious concerns for their wellbeing.
At the heart of this crisis is a legal system in the tribal areas which excludes the enforcement of human rights ...which are often intentionally defined so widely as to be meaningless... protections by the courts and allows the armed forces to operate with impunity.
The Federally Administered Tribal Areas (Fata) are still being governed under the draconian colonial-era Frontier Crimes Regulation (FCR), while acts of parliament still do not apply to the region, effectively cutting off its people from national political life. A new set of laws introduced in 2011, the Actions (in Aid of Civil Power) Regulations (AACPR), give the armed forces even broader powers to arrest and detain in Fata and the tribal areas in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa ... formerly NWFP, still Terrorism Central... in a manner that violates international law.
The AACPR seeks to exclude Pakistain's high courts and parliament from jurisdiction over armed forces' actions in the tribal areas. Although the courts have nevertheless heard cases challenging the lawfulness of some detentions, there have been no prosecutions of armed forces personnel for alleged torture, enforced disappearance or deaths in jug.
Even where alleged Taliban suspected of human rights abuses have been locked away You have the right to remain silent... and detained, the authorities have a very poor record of prosecuting them and achieving accountability for such abuses before the courts.
The Pakistain government must urgently address the deeply flawed legal system in the tribal areas, and tackle head on the absence of rule of law exploited by state and non-state perpetrators alike. Undoubtedly, Pakistain faces major challenges in the region in confronting persistent violence by gangs, re-establishing civil authority and infrastructure after years of conflict, and addressing a continuing humanitarian crisis.
But the authorities can and must take immediate steps to institute the rule of law in the region. All detainees must be given access to families, lawyers and the courts; the AACPR must be repealed; the FCR repealed or amended in a way to be in line with international human rights standards; and the jurisdiction of the courts and parliament extended to the tribal areas.
Without urgent steps to make the armed forces accountable before the law and protect the human rights of millions living in the tribal areas, the grip of perpetual lawlessness in the region will never be loosened.
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Sounds like Britain.
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[Dawn] "ON the one side is the army, they enter houses without any warnings and arrest people without any reason. On the other hand everyone is terrified of the Taliban; at any time they might kidnap you, or kill you. Everyone was saying that the army will come and improve the situation in Bajaur but instead people are as frightened of the army [as they were of] the Taliban."
In 2009, the Pakistain armed forces launched a series of military operations in the tribal areas to reclaim territory that was under the control of 
