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The real reason behind Benghazigate
Was Obama gun-walking arms to jihadists?
It sure looks that way. Mr. Gaffney's article is well-sourced. Apparently Ambassador Stevens, among other things, was working to have some of the massive amounts of Libyan weapons left over from the Qadaffi regime shipped to the Syrian rebels. Much of these were landing in the hands of al-Qaeda types in Syria, not the 'moderate' rebels we're supposedly supporting. Definitely worth the read this morning.
Posted by: tipper || 10/24/2012 00:59 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6475 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Very likely another F&F cock-up. We failed to deal affirmatively with the first F&F, and we now have another? DoD and the SOF community watching, reading the traffic, and shaking their heads. A West Point general with his head in his hands at McLean asking, why did I take this phueching job.

From a 16 Oct 12 Reuters piece:

Just hours before he died, a State Department cable showed, Stevens met with members of the Benghazi local council, who insisted security in the city was "improving" and the U.S. government should "pressure" American companies to invest.

Later that day, it said, Stevens was scheduled to launch a project called "American Space Benghazi," a public outreach center containing a "small library, computer lab and open space for programming."

With the security situation as bad as it was, I never bought the "American Space Benghazi" library story.

...should "pressure" American companies to invest

I believe we now know what the "investment" entailed.

Posted by: Besoeker || 10/24/2012 2:40 Comments || Top||

#2  Finally a story that actually 'makes sense' - fits the known facts and explains behaviors.
Explains why Romney did not get aggressive on the topic in the debates - he probably knows the real story and understands that if he wins HE will have to deal with underlying national security issues (whether the actions that created the mess were good judgement or not.)
Posted by: Glenmore || 10/24/2012 8:49 Comments || Top||

#3  Fox News is all over it, waving the e-mails, etc. Liz Cheney is on in a few minutes to talk about it. Champs story is falling apart. I suspect someone whispered in Willard's ear prior to the debate:

Hey governor, this one is going Chernobyl and we're not sure how many will survive.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/24/2012 9:05 Comments || Top||

#4  The gun-walking story makes sense and accounts for what Amb. Stevens was doing. But we are still left with the question of why nothing was done about the attack. Events were monitored in real time. The 'spontaneous demonstration' story has been shredded like dog-eaten homework. Wretchard's theory of a kidnapping gone awry still holds up.
Posted by: SteveS || 10/24/2012 10:48 Comments || Top||

#5  Romney knew this story had legs in the press and there was no need to bring it up in the debate--someone else would carry the water and he wouldn't look like a tattle-tale smuck leaker for political purpose. Obama tried to sting him about the night of 911 (or 912) for bringing up the attack. Moreover, if elected, he would have to clean up this mess. He has enough class not to blame his predecessor. Now, if the election just works out in Romney's favor. IMO "O" doesn't know what the hell he is doing in the Mideast--likely has been arming people not friendly to us and it backfired.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/24/2012 11:04 Comments || Top||

#6  Not discounting it entirely, but the kidnap theory seems doubtful. I am putting my money on an F&F initiative with the MB backed gov't of Turkey, gone terribly wrong. Not something that the administration would wish to try to explain or justify just prior to an election, hence the video cover story.

Operators positioned on the roof of a consulate building or Safe House points to a likely observation post and good firing position. Also an ideal location for communications and signaling position for incoming rescue aircraft, which sadly, never arrived.

The SOF community and personnel on NEO/in extremis stand-by know the answers, as likely do the British Blue Mountain Security folks who got out a week or so earlier earlier. All in all, a giant shi* sandwich.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/24/2012 11:09 Comments || Top||

#7  I believe we now know what the "investment" entailed.

Um...a solar panel factory? /s

Posted by: Secret Asian Man || 10/24/2012 11:56 Comments || Top||

#8  Supposedly, there was a drone that was tasked to overfly and monitor the Benghazi consulate at the time of the attack. Who would give approval to task a drone? For what reason would such a decision-maker task a drone other than protection (if armed) or observation? It seems like this would be a decision coming from a high level.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/24/2012 13:28 Comments || Top||

#9  It all is starting to come together. Why the SOF troops never went in to get them always bothered me. Now it looks like with the 20 or so that attacked his house, was the blocking team to take the warehouse full of weapons. What was the size of the force that took the warehouse down??? Would sending in a small SF team to a site that has SA7s turn it into another Somalia? This story is only partially exposed. Bring popcorn!
Posted by: 49 Pan || 10/24/2012 13:30 Comments || Top||

#10  Drones or UAV's have capabilities beyond that of "observation" (persistent surveillance), or kinetic action (bombing). Tasking and dynamic re-tasking authorization for surveillance and collection would likely come from the AFRICOM or US Intelligence. In this particulr case, authorization for kinetic attack would likely be elevated to the White House.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/24/2012 13:37 Comments || Top||

#11  Apparently Hillary's advisor MB Abedi was among those receiving the State Dept memo that AQ took responsibility from the Gitgo, too. Very interesting from the WT's comments:

Glenn Beck did an hour show yesterday on this . He named the Turkish point man who worked alongside Stevens to funnel the weapons to the jihadis . Glenn went much deeper on the rest of it. The first phone call Obama made as president was to the Turkish president and has now called him 13 times .The Turkish president hates Assad in Syria . These weapons were being funneled into Turkey to be distributed to jihadis to take out Assad in Syria.Why would the United States president help Turkey take out Syria ?? Was Stevens security weakened to take him out as a potential witness to Obamas gun walking?? Not to far to reach , when we know Obama uses people then throws them under the bus and it would explain why the White House watched from a drone on September 11 as Stevens and others were murdered.For eight hours this attack went on , forces could have been brought in from Tripoli , they weren't . A plane could have been sent in within an hour , YET NOTHING was done to help Americans as they were attacked! The kicker to this whole story is Obamas new "trusted friends " , the Muslim Brotherhood is the one who advised Obama as to who to funnel these weapons to . Turkey and Russia are aligning with Iran and our president is arming our enemies . Lovely !
Posted by: Voldemort Tingle2660 || 10/24/2012 14:36 Comments || Top||

#12  As to why the US would want to take down Assad, it might have something to do with his close alliance with Iran, something Bush started to weaken and Obama arrogantly thought he could charm away.

As to not intervening during the Benghazi attack, the administration is deeply invested in the (false) narrative that Libya is now governed by a democratic government after we helped overthrow Ghadaffi. Having committed to that stand, they needed Libyan govt approval to fly in. And that govt, remember, refused even FBI access to evidence afterwards for over a week.
Posted by: lotp || 10/24/2012 18:24 Comments || Top||

#13  As their contents were raided in the course of the attack, we may never know for sure whether they housed — and were known by the local jihadis to house — arms, perhaps administered by the two former Navy SEALs killed along with – Stevens.

Think of this as the worst possible scenario in a hostage negotiation. It’s when a shaky deal (With no Plan B.) is struck and before it’s too late it completely unravels. The bad guys then kill the cops; take their weapons, then for good measures kill the hostage. And to make matters worse they also make off with the ransom.

(BTW, whatcha spose a buncha Libyian MANPADS goes for these days?)
Posted by: DepotGuy || 10/24/2012 20:17 Comments || Top||

Europe Volunteers Churches to Become Mosques
The writer Emile Cioran cast a sad prophecy on Europe: “The French will not wake up until Notre Dame becomes a mosque.”

But unlike the Middle East, where non-Muslim sites were razed or violently converted to Islam, in Europe this process is voluntary.

This is The Hagia Eirene church, now a mosque a reality.

The church of Saint-Eloi in the French region of Vierzon will soon become a mosque. The diocese of Bourges has put on sale the church and a Muslim organization, l’Association des Marocains, made the most generous offer to buy the site.

The church of Saint-Eloi is located in an area inhabited by Turks and Moroccans. It’s the “de-Christianization” of Europe, which is naturally followed by its gradual Islamization and increasing anti-Semitism. Of 27.000 inhabitants in the town of Vierzon, only 300 go to church once a week.

In the past decade, French Catholic bishops formally closed more than 60 churches, many of which are destined to become mosques, according to the research conducted by the newspaper La Croix.

According to a recent report of the U.S. Pew Center, Islam is already “the fastest-growing religion in Europe,” where the number of Muslims has tripled over the past 30 years. One-third of all European children will be born to Muslim families by 2025.

Demography is the most important symptom of exhaustion: Without a cradle, you can't sustain a civilization.

To understand this historic process, one has to see the number of churches converted into mosques.

In the Netherlands, more than 250 buildings where Catholics, Lutherans and Calvinists have prayed for centuries, have changed owners. Like the Fatih Camii Mosque in Amsterdam, which once was Saint Ignatius, a Catholic church. Or the church of S. Vincentius, which was put on sale along with the benches, the crucifixes and the chandeliers. Today more than half of the Dutch population is buitenkerkelijk, free from any religious affiliation. Catholics have decreased by 70 percent.

Islam is now considered the “most widely practiced religion” in the Netherlands. The Oude Kerk, the oldest church in Amsterdam, built in 1309, stands solidly in the heart of downtown. Around it is the red-light district with the South American and Eastern European prostitutes knocking on the glass to attract the attention of passersby.

The Neuwe Kerk, the church where the Dutch kings were crowned, is a museum. The only "church" in the city that is crowded is that of Scientology, which offers free stress tests.

4,400 church buildings remain in the Netherlands. Each week, two close their doors forever.

In Duisburg, Germany, the Catholic church closed six churches. In Marxloh, the only church that survives, that of St. Peter and Paul, will close at the end of 2012. In Germany 400 churches have been closed.

The municpality of Antwerp, Belgium proposed to transform the empty churches into mosques. Scandinavia lives the same phenomenon. To cite one case, the Swedish church of St. Olfos is used by the Muslims. The main mosque in Dublin is a former Presbyterian church.

In England, 10,000 churches have been closed since 1960. By 2020, another 4.000 churches will close while another 1,700 new mosques will be built, many of which will arise on sites of former churches.

“God is dead” declared Friedrich Nietzsche and Europe obliged. Now, Europe is poised to adopt the Koranic, “There is no God but Allah.” And the old Gregorian chants will be substituted by the muezzin.

Europe's tragedy is embodied by the sterile blocks of concrete and glass of the European Union in Bruxelles. Symbols of the moral emptiness within. Meanwhile the top seven baby boys’ names in Brussels are Mohammed, Adam, Rayan, Ayoub, Mehdi, Amine and Hamza.

A couple of years ago I visited Rotterdam, the Dutch industrial polmon. Everywhere are casbah-cafes, travel agencies offering flights to Rabat and Casablanca, and posters expressing solidarity with Hamas. Most of the population are immigrants, and the city has the tallest and most imposing mosque in Europe.

When arriving in the city by train, most striking are the mosques framed by the green, luxuriant, wooded, watery countryside. Rotterdam has the tallest minarets in Europe. The city was buzzing when the newspapers published a letter by Bouchra Ismaili, a city councilmanwho declared, "Listen up, crazy freaks, we're here to stay. You're the foreigners here. With Allah on my side, I'm not afraid of anything. Take my advice: Convert to Islam, and you will find peace."

A French friend showed me one of Rotterdam's main squares, where there is a mosque with Arabic writing outside proclaiming, "This used to be a church.”

Is Islam the destiny for the world's most affluent, relaxed and pacified societies which opted for self-liquidation?
Posted by: Au Auric || 10/24/2012 18:59 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6518 views] Top|| File under:

#1  So-o-o IOW, COMET APOPHIS + CATASTROPHIC SOLAR STORMS, ETC. will merely finish what the Frenchies + Euros + Vatican, Western JudeoChristianity DID TO ITSELF.

Can't blame the "inferior" Muslims [or the Sun]for the Mullahs telling Muslims to have lots of Sex + Kiddies, while "superior" JudeoChristian Westies knowingly engage in knowingly Demographic-changing, anti-Family, anti-Identity, SECULAR TOTALITARIAN INDIVIDUALISM, DIVERSITY + RELATED. THE SECULAR WEST IS INTELLECTUALLY MAKING ITSELF OBSOLETE + IRRELEVANT.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/24/2012 21:45 Comments || Top||

'Apologia for Taliban 101'
[Dawn] NO sooner had the TTP's heinous shooting of Malala Yousufzai hit the headlines than right-wing politicians and analysts flooded our TV screens. Before a debate could even begin, they started to spin the event for their politically expedient purposes.

Waving the flags of an Indo-Israeli-American conspiracy,
"Damn those Hinjooooooo Crusaders!"
the JI demagogues arrived first. They were quickly followed by an influx of their clean-shaven version, Imran Khan
... aka Taliban Khan, who ain't the sharpest bulb on the national tree...
and his PTI, remorselessly decriminalising the dastardly act by blaming its 'root causes' on US drone attacks. Many PML-N leaders hardly fared better, condemning the 'kufr' but not the 'kafir'.
I thought the difference was merely a matter of regional pronunciation, but it seems I was wrong. So what is the difference?
Some talk-show anchors and analysts sunk to the lowest depths of shamelessness, one going so far as to call Malala a "foot soldier" in the propaganda war against Pakistain.

As the Islamist-dominated monologue around the brutal incident rages on, it is important to see the 'spin' for what it is. Here are some of the key ways our Taliban apologists dissimulate, distort and divert:

1. 'Whoever has committed this act should be punished.'

That's right. Condemn the attack, but create enough ambiguity about its perpetrators to divert attention from the Taliban's patent criminality. Better yet, call it 'jihad', especially when the 'good' Taliban kill people across the border in Afghanistan.

2. 'Why aren't the many more women and kiddies killed in drone attacks given the same publicity?'

Whether innocent civilians die in drone attacks or are killed by the Taliban, both scenarios are equally condemnable. But two wrongs do not make a right. And as many people have noted, drone attacks had little to do with what the TTP did to Malala, or to scores of other innocent civilians in Swat. Malala was attacked because she challenged their version of the 'right' society where women have no voice and no choice.

3. 'In fact, it is the government that almost killed Malala because it failed to provide her security.'

That's true. The government failed. Indeed, the army and its intelligence agencies failed miserably to prevent this and many other terrorist attacks. But how does this vindicate the Taliban?

4. 'We must talk to the Taliban. Previous peace agreements failed because they were sabotaged.'

Talk to who? Those who shoot teenaged girls in cold blood for spreading 'secularism', those who prize human heads as 'kill' trophies, those who consider democracy as heresy? Imran Khan and his ilk would do well to realise that the Taliban are not here to coexist, they are here to win. And remember the deal in Swat, or the several 'peace agreements' in Fata, the Taliban subverted virtually all of them.

5. 'This is nothing unusual in a society that kills women for marrying by choice.'

This is truly offensive to the victims and survivors of terrorism. But let's suppose for argument's sake, it is true. Then, why did we not see similar barbarism -- the lethal targeting of maidens of tender years and the destruction of schools -- between 1947 and the 2000s.

6. 'These people can't be Mohammedans.'

Who is to determine who is and is not a Mohammedan? The Taliban think they are on the righteous path. They quote from the Koran and Sunnah to justify their crimes against humanity, so do their equally cunning apologists. What difference does it make to those maimed and killed in terrorist attacks whether these people kill in the name of religion or not? Murder is murder. Period.

7. 'We don't know whether those who are claiming to be the TTP are actually the TTP.'

This is a particular favourite of the JI. The Taliban brag about their kills, and make videos of their savage exploits. Yet their apologists in the religious right cast doubts on the 'authenticity' of these claims. Neither have any shame.

8. 'The Indians, the Jews and the Americans finance the TTP.'

And the evidence is ... zero. Amongst others, the PML-N's Lt Gen Abdul Qayyum (retd) claimed on a TV show that 'these' people use Indian guns, Israeli bullets and so on. Very convenient, indeed. Accepting that the spreading cancer of terrorism is a Pak problem would of course turn the focus on the military establishment (and its right-wing allies) for using militancy as a tool of 'statecraft'. Here is the problem: if these 'enemies of Islam' are so smart as to give the military atomic wedgies every second day, the generals should hang up their hats and go home.

9. 'When America leaves the region, terrorism will decline.'

This is Imran Khan's favourite mantra, which is as disingenuous as it is historically wrong. It is no secret that the Tehrik-e-Nifaz-e-Shariat-e-Mohammadi (TNSM),
...Tehreek-e-Nafaz-e-Shariat-e-Mohammadi (Movement for the Enforcement of Islamic Law) is a Pak bad turban group whose objective is to enforce their definition of Sharia law in Pakistain whether anybody wants it or not. It was founded by Sufi Muhammad in 1992, and was banned by President Musharraf in January, 2002 after Sufi dispatched several thousand yokels to Afghanistan to fight the infidel and ended up with most of them killed or captured and held for ransom. In 2007 TNSM took over Swat, which shows how well the banning worked. TNSM is the Pony League of Islamic militancy..
the bad turban organization previously led by Sufi Mohammad, and since 2002, by his son-in-law, Mullah Fazlullah
...son-in-law of holy man Sufi Mohammad. Known as Mullah FM, Fazlullah had the habit of grabbing his FM mike when the mood struck him and bellowing forth sermons. Sufi suckered the Pak govt into imposing Shariah on the Swat Valley and then stepped aside whilst Fazlullah and his Talibs imposed a reign of terror on the populace like they hadn't seen before, at least not for a thousand years or so. For some reason the Pak intel services were never able to locate his transmitter, much bomb it. After ruling the place like a conquered province for a year or so, Fazlullahs Talibs began gobbling up more territory as they pushed toward Islamabad, at which point as a matter of self-preservation the Mighty Pak Army threw them out and chased them into Afghanistan...
, was up in arms against the Pak state seven years before 9/11. There was no America in the region then.

10. 'We must understand the disease, not just fix the symptoms.'

This one really takes the cake. Basically, it is akin to saying that doctors should let their patients suffer, even suffocate or bleed to death, until they can come up with a proper diagnosis. The disease, of course, circles back to the American occupation of Afghanistan. However,
the difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits...
none of these mard-e-mujahids can tell us how the US exit from the region will prevent Taliban attacks on schools in Swat.

Here is a question for all those who think or would like us to think that Malala's activism or the attack on her and her schoolmates was a foreign conspiracy, or that it must be understood only in a 'broader' context: what if Malala was your daughter? Would you still be talking about 'root causes'? Would you still think this is not our war? Would you still be differentiating between the 'good' and the 'bad' Taliban? I doubt it.
Posted by: Fred || 10/24/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6468 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

Judging the generals
[Dawn] "THE elections are stolen," a stunned Benazir Bhutto declared after the 1990 general elections. More than two decades later, she has been vindicated by the Supreme Court judgment.

The landmark ruling implicating the ex-army and ISI chiefs in the election rigging does not make amends for past wrongs, but it certainly sends a strong message to potential plotters. The ruling entails far-reaching political consequences as the country comes close to the next general elections. Whether or not Gen Aslam Beg and Gen Asad Durrani, the two main accused in the Asghar Khan case, are put on trial for violation of the constitution as directed by the Supreme Court, the ruling has opened up a Pandora's box the political fallout of which will not be easy to contain. There was nothing in the case which the people were not aware of or that had not been written about. The Supreme Court has only validated what has been known all along.

It is not just the army and intelligence agencies that have been hit by the Supreme Court ruling. It has also brought into question once again the complicity of some top politicians in this sordid game of political manipulation. They were equally responsible for undermining the democratic process in the country. Notwithstanding a few exceptions, most of the political parties wittingly or unwittingly played into the hands of the military and intelligence agencies in the game of musical chairs of power played out in the 1990s. Many of them later on even became part of Gen Musharraf's military regime.

What happened in the 1990 elections was not an isolated phenomenon. The long shadow of the generals had darkened the political scene throughout the so-called decade of democratically elected civilian rule. To be sure, the restoration of democracy in 1988, following the end of Gen Zia's military regime, was not a clean break from military rule.

The return to the barracks did not mean that the military's structure of control and manipulation had been dismantled. The army chief remained a power behind the scenes in alliance with the president as has become evident in the Asghar Khan case.

This arrangement of power without responsibility best suited the military.

The disclosure about the distribution of money by the ISI to the politicians during the 1990 elections is just the tip of the iceberg. The involvement of the military and the intelligence agencies in political manipulation has been much more deep-rooted. It all started with the formation by the military of the Islami Jamhoori Ittehad (IJI,) an alliance of right-wing parties representing Gen Zia's legacy to counter the PPP and prevent it from coming to power. The ISI chief would even sit in at IJI meetings.

Also, there is absolutely no doubt that the 1988 elections were rigged to contain the PPP's sweeping win. The generals never reconciled with Benazir Bhutto's first government. Not to forget that the ISI was directly involved in the infamous operation Midnight Jackal to buy over support of PPP members for a no-confidence vote against Ms Bhutto. She was finally ousted from power in a constitutional coup just 18 months into her term. Ms Bhutto publicly accused Gen Durrani, the then head of the Military Intelligence, of plotting against her government.
Posted by: Fred || 10/24/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6470 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  From the title, I thought this would be about our Benghazi attach.... Just where were our generals?
Posted by: Sherry || 10/24/2012 1:42 Comments || Top||

#2  Well monday night before the debate Wesley Clark was spinning really fast to defend the president.
Posted by: Rjschwarz || 10/24/2012 9:46 Comments || Top||

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