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-Short Attention Span Theater-
Mussolini: Hitler Should Be Exiled
The dateline is today, not 1938!
ROME (AP) - Fascist dictator Benito Mussolini once privately suggested the Vatican consider excommunicating Adolf Hitler, a historian said Saturday, citing a document recently disclosed by the Holy See.

Experts were surprised by the document, but noted that Mussolini’s remark came in April 1938, the year before he sealed a wartime alliance with the Nazi leader. Prof. Emma Fattorini pointed out that Hitler had invaded Austria shortly before Mussolini’s reported remark. The Italian dictator was worried about his own borders, she said.

She speculated that Mussolini’s aim was ``to weaken Hitler and have more power himself, to do it in a way that the Church would stop Hitler a bit.’’
How many divisions did the Pope have in 1938?
The Hitler-Mussolini relationship was always ambivalent, she said. ``They love each other, they hate each other, they study each other,’’ she said.

The Vatican document describes an April 10, 1938, meeting between the go-between from the Holy See to Mussolini, the Rev. Pietro Tacchi Venturi, and Pope Pius XI. Tacchi Venturi told the pope about his private talks with Mussolini three days earlier. According to the document, Mussolini had advised the Vatican envoy ``that it would be worthwhile with Hitler to be more forceful, without half-measures; not right away, not immediately, but waiting for the most opportune moment to adopt more forceful measures, for example, excommunication.’’
And this would have stopped Hitler. WWII need not have happened! Why couldn’t they negotiate? It was all about the Lebenstraum!
Hitler was born into a Catholic family, but did not practice the faith.
That’s putting it mildly.
It was not clear how the Vatican reacted to Mussolini’s suggestion. Fattorini said the Holy See has not released other documents that would help explain the case. Dennis Mack Smith, the author of a Mussolini biography, said the Italian leader often made casual suggestions of this type, reflecting his initial doubts about Hitler. ``He’s not too keen on him in 1938,’’ said Mack Smith, the author of a Mussolini biography. ``Hitler actually asked Mussolini for a formal alliance in the course of 1938, but Mussolini doesn’t accept this until 1939. Until then, it’s something Hitler wanted, but something Mussolini didn’t want. He was trying to keep his distance a bit.’’
Didn’t keep it enough!
In February, the Vatican opened to researchers archives covering its relations with Germany from 1922-39; many other documents are still secret. The Holy See made the 1922-39 documents available years ahead of schedule in a bid to deflect criticism that it was silent in the face of the Holocaust.
Posted by: Steve White || 09/27/2003 5:10:50 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6459 views] Top|| File under:

#1  reading "Red Rabbit" by Tom Clancy in paperback (before I get to your book, AP, gotta finish this first :-))which deals with Andropov ordering the assassination of Pope John Paul (Karol). Constant refrain is: "How many divisions did the Pope have"?

In terms of Poland in the 1980's it was enough, huh?
Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2003 17:18 Comments || Top||

#2  And I'm almost through with Heaven on Earth: the rise and fall of socialism, by Josh Muravchik. It's got a chapter on Mussolini, showing how he went from socialist to fascist. Fun fact:

"the Duce did not at first requite Hitler's admiration. In 1926 Hitler had asked at the Italian embassy in Berlin for an autographed photograph of Mussolini, and the Italian foreign minister cabled back this response: 'Please thank the above-named gentleman for his sentiments and tell him in whatever form you think best that the Duce does not think fit to accede to his request.'"
Posted by: (lowercase) matt || 09/27/2003 17:41 Comments || Top||

#3  Finished"Red rabbit"couple of weeks ago,not bad.
Posted by: Raptor || 09/27/2003 18:08 Comments || Top||

#4  I've yet to see a bad Clancy novel - his love scenes are painful tho' - my apologies to Mrs. Clancy
Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2003 18:38 Comments || Top||

#5  another suggestion I've got waiting in th ewings to read: Quicksilver by Neal Stephenson - if it's anything as good as Cryptonomicom - I'll give a followup review - lotta pages to read before then
Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2003 19:29 Comments || Top||

Anybody interested?
Got this in my e-mail:
First may are solicit your confidientality on this transaction, by this virtue of its nature,I am Fredick taylor a cousin to Charles taylor the else president of Liberia, With the recent indictment of Charles Taylor by the international war crimes tribunal, he has mandated me to look for a reliable partner who will urgently assist in the collection of consignment of boxes (containing cash of $25million dollars he kept in safe custody with a security management company in Accra Ghana and the security company is not aware of the contents of the consignment.The money was the proceed of Diamond Sales....
’Ah hear tell there be a dandyfine bridge over thar in Saan Francesco,Californyia for sell.Me an the family,we be movin to tha Hills,Beverly hills that is.’

Wonder how many people will buy into this scam?

High lite was mine.
Posted by: Raptor || 09/27/2003 10:56:22 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6457 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Raptor, I got one these "Nigerian" scam e-mails the other day. It was in French and I don't speak a word French, but I could comprehend it better than what this joker is trying to say.

How many buy in? Must be a lot because PT Barnun said there's one born everyday and they keep sending them out to the fools. Apparently in various languages.
Posted by: Gasse Katze || 09/27/2003 12:08 Comments || Top||

#2  There is a site which does nothing but try to lure in these suckers for a photo. It's a scream. I will search for the link.
Posted by: Shipman || 09/27/2003 12:32 Comments || Top||

#3  First may are solicit your confidientality on this transaction,..

This threw me for a loop. If I see crap like this, time for the trash bin.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 09/27/2003 13:23 Comments || Top||

#4  YOu only get one? I get about 30 a week!
Posted by: Ptah || 09/27/2003 15:50 Comments || Top||

#5  I get them all the time,but this is the first one from Chucky and co.
That's why I posted,thought it my be worth a chuckle.
Posted by: Raptor || 09/27/2003 17:42 Comments || Top||

Hold the Security - Greece proposes Olympic truce!
Forget Munich; we should all be friends...
Greece has made a stand for stupidity world peace at the United Nations General Assembly, by calling for a revival of the Olympic truce during next year’s games in Athens. The 16-day ceasefire mirrors the age old tradition once kept in ancient Greece when a truce - or ekecheiria - meant athletes and spectators could enjoy the Olympics without fear.
Hey, maybe even Sammy’ll turn up to watch the massacre.
In introducing the resolution, the Greek foreign minister said it would create "a vital window of opportunity for the terrorists peaceful solution of conflicts". The non-sensicalbinding resolution is expected to be adopted by the UN in November. Greece appealed for co-sponsors to the proposals, which would call for a truce from 13-29 August when the games are held in the Greek capital.
Who’s the greater fool, the fool or the cloud-dweller who follows the fool?
"If we could have peace for 16 days, maybe, just maybe, that we can have it forever," said Greek Foreign Minister George Papandreou in his address at the 58th session of the UN General Assembly on Friday.
Is this what passes for realpolitik for Greeks nowadays? No wonder they love the EU...
The ancient peace tradition was revived in 1992, when the International Olympic Committee launched an appeal for the observance of the Olympic truce. At that time it helped allow athletes from the former Yugoslav republics to join the 1994 Winter Olympics in Lillehammer, Norway.
We had World Peace (TM). Damn! I missed it!
"The call to observe the Olympic truce is an appeal for the Games to silence the guns - all over the world," said UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan. "It gives parties in violent conflict a reason to pause, to provide relief to suffering populations, to reflect on the misery of war, and to open dialogue."
"Fluffy kittens and puppies will learn that fighting is not the answer. Likewise, terrorists and fanatics will become moderates and devote their lives to balloon sculpture."
Mr Papandreou said the truce - a United Nations stunt tradition since 1993 - would be the key component of the resolution entitled Building A Peaceful And Better World Through Sport And The Olympic Ideal.
...all toghether now: "Kumbaya..."
Posted by: Bulldog || 09/27/2003 6:17:28 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6458 views] Top|| File under:

#1  to provide relief to suffering populations, to reflect on the misery of war, and to open dialogue

What, no call for the US to disarm??? No blatant anti-American propaganda??? C'mon Kofi... you're slipping.
Posted by: Rafael || 09/27/2003 7:13 Comments || Top||

#2  peace, hope, and understanding are great, but I'll take a firearm and kevlar over them, thank you very much Kofi
Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2003 10:18 Comments || Top||

#3  A two week Hunda where we can't kill terrorists while they realign. Gimme a break.
Posted by: Super Hose || 09/27/2003 10:38 Comments || Top||

#4  Sounds like the Greeks are scared and/or don't have their shit together.
Posted by: Raj || 09/27/2003 10:57 Comments || Top||

#5  Telly-Tubby Hug
Posted by: rg117 || 09/27/2003 12:00 Comments || Top||

#6  Telly-Tubby Hug

Got any idea how much C4 Tinky Wink could carry in that purse?
Posted by: Shipman || 09/27/2003 12:37 Comments || Top||

#7  What the Greeks are really afraid of, and this truce BS proves it, are Catholics and other stuges of the Vatican causing a ruckus. The Pope knows this and does nothing to prevent it. His Bishops preach hatred of the Orthodox and a blind devotion to the papacy and latin superiorty. I could go on and on but you folks know the story. But ever since the 72 olympics, when the catholics took the Greek fencing team hostage, there has been and continues to be a security problem in hosting the olympics.
Posted by: Lucky || 09/27/2003 12:40 Comments || Top||

#8  The US athletes will be booed unmercifully in Greece. Not that it has much to do with Bush or the WOT, because our athletes were booed pretty badly (even our women athletes) at the Sydney games in 2000 -- and the Clintons were prez at the time.
Posted by: g wiz || 09/27/2003 13:05 Comments || Top||

#9  ..Actually, this may not be so much a plea for World Peace(tm), but a desperate plea on the part of the Greek leadership to the gunnies - 'For Zeus' sake, don't f**k this up!!!' The Greeks are notoriously lax when it comes to the terrs, and they sure as heck aren't going to crack down on them and risk getting their own backsides chewed up.

Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 09/27/2003 14:37 Comments || Top||

#10  *Sigh* No comment until Aris comments.
Posted by: Ptah || 09/27/2003 15:52 Comments || Top||

#11  The reason this worked in Classical Greece is that all the states that sent contestants were co-religionists; if you broke the truce, not only the rest of Greeece but also the gods would be on your case. Unfortunately, not the case here and now... and I do mean unfortunately. I'd like to think such things were possible and we could get the world thru a fortnight without multiple stories about wormfood being generated thru modern chemistry and politics. But those days are gone if they ever existed outside romantic fiction.
Posted by: Mercutio || 09/27/2003 18:23 Comments || Top||

#12  "If we could have peace for 16 days...we can have it forever"

Can I sue Mr. Papandreou for causing an intense pain in my sides from laughing so hard?
Posted by: Stephen || 09/27/2003 22:13 Comments || Top||

Afghan police difuses two bombs near Kabul mosque
Afghan police on Saturday discovered and defused two bombs planted near a mosque in one of the most crowded market areas of Kabul, local television reported."It is the work of the enemies of Afghanistan and Taliban and Al-Qaeda elements," new city police chief General Baba Jan was quoted as saying.
No one had been arrested so far.

Posted by: TS || 09/27/2003 6:14:25 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6459 views] Top|| File under:

#1  near a mosque huh? Friends of the Religion of Peace™ ?
Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2003 18:39 Comments || Top||

#2  That the POLICE defused the bomb is an indication of how far Afghanistan has progressed. Kudos to the bomb squad!
Posted by: Ptah || 09/27/2003 19:50 Comments || Top||

Al Qaeda wiped out, but we need help: Afghan President
Afghan President Hamid Karzai says the Al Qaeda terrorist network has been wiped out in Afghanistan. But he says without more aid and assistance from the outside world, Afghanistan could once more become unstable and cause damage to the outside world. Mr Karzai was speaking in New York, where he has addressed the United Nations General Assembly. "If we do not receive the assistance that we need, and if we do not receive the security assistance we need, and if we do not receive the political environment and assistance that we need, Afghanistan will not stabilise and the instability in Afghanistan will again cause damage to the rest of the world like it did," he said.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 09/27/2003 14:08 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6457 views] Top|| File under:

#1  *Nods* Essentially Correct, in that its the Taliban who's been kicking up a ruckus in the eastern third of the country.

Nothing, of course, that Pakistan can't handle if it puts its mind to it.
Posted by: Ptah || 09/27/2003 15:53 Comments || Top||

Call out for 200 'suspect spies'
Around 200 persons, including Kuwaitis, have been summoned by security authorities on suspicion of spying for the former Iraqi regime, Al-Rai Al-Aam quotes reliable sources in the security sector as saying. "The 200 persons the security authorities have summoned include Kuwaitis whose mothers and wives are of Iraqi origin," the source said. Security authorities have information and documents from the former Iraqi intelligence agencies showing these persons involvement in two types of Iraqi intelligence gathering," the source added.
Oops. Hard to get around those archived records...
"The first involved Kuwaiti men, married to Iraqi women or those with Iraqi mothers, who established big companies funded by Iraqi intelligence. These firms were used as main information gathering centers and conduits for transferring money to intelligence units. "These people travelled to Jordan and entered Iraq without having their passports stamped and were specially trained on intelligence gathering techniques such as the use of secret ink, photography and others," the source continued.
I'd recommend the firing squad...
"The second method involved women of various Arab nationalities. They ran beauty shops and ladies' saloons and were recruited to get classified information from wives of Kuwaiti men who were working in sensitive positions," the daily said.
Jug time for these hussies...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 09/27/2003 17:42 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6459 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Looks like the Baathists didn't manage to burn as many records as they hoped.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 09/27/2003 17:47 Comments || Top||

#2  Exile them to the Maldives - the country could use the extra cash.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 09/27/2003 23:10 Comments || Top||

In Another Tour-De-Force Berlusconi Offends Several More Interest Groups
Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi’s controversial sense of humor struck again when he vaunted the attractions of Italian secretaries to potential American investors. "Italy is a great country to invest in these days. The proof is that the Italian prime minister has invested all his money there," the billionaire businessman-turned-politician told a business audience at the New York Stock Exchange.
No real problem here except the impression that he is an active investor in companies that he .... I’m sure that will be investigated by the proper authorities.
"Another reason to invest in Italy is that today we have fewer Communists. There were 34 percent of them when I entered politics 10 years ago, today there are only 16 percent," he said.
For a seasoned political advisor this statement would problematic. Why would a conservative candidate downplay the Red Scare tactic?
"And another reason to invest in Italy is that we have beautiful secretaries," Berlusconi said, risking outrage in a country where sexist remarks are regarded as seriously offensive.
I expect that the real uproar on this one will occur when he is forced to take this statement back. He will do this by pointing out that he stereotyped based on the beauty of his own secretary, and has since been presented with irrefuatble evidence - in the form of photographs -that many Italian secretaries are actually butt ugly, coyote ugly or have achieved two bagger status. He will further plead that he must have had his beer goggles on when he made the original flawed assessment preventing him from seeing a host of mustache hair that would have made an Arab diplomat proud.
Noting that Rome had scrapped inheritance tax, Berlusconi joked that "the invitation could be: come and die in Italy."
He’s making a huge mistake with this statement. I’m sure France had already been studying the solutions to aging outlines in the movie Logan’s Run. Berlusconi has now unitentionally invited the french to boatlift all their oldsters his way. I predict frightful lines for the early-bird specials in the cafes of Rome.
Posted by: Super Hose || 09/27/2003 11:15:06 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6457 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hey, at least he didn't make any remarks about interns.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 09/27/2003 12:39 Comments || Top||

#2  Clone Silvio
Posted by: g wiz || 09/27/2003 13:10 Comments || Top||

#3  Italian secretaries? I'd hit that...
Posted by: Raj || 09/27/2003 14:16 Comments || Top||

Infant brides can’t be fined for breaking wedlock after puberty
Justice Fakhar-un-Nisa Khokhar of the Lahore High Court (LHC) on Friday observed that a girl wedded in infancy was not bound to pay any penalty in case she sought the dissolution of the marriage after attaining puberty.
Married in infancy? You mean like burping milk? E-e-e-e-w!
The judge observed that any conditions put forward by the girl’s father (whether alive or dead) would not be binding if the marriage was solemnised while she was a minor. She said marriage is a civil contract between two individuals, but no conditions can be placed on a minor who is deemed unaware of his or her rights and cannot legally be party to a contract.
I thought a marriage contract in Pakland involved transferring ownership of a chattel...
A marriage contracted with a minor girl would be deemed as a marriage without her consent, the court observed. It said such conditions were illegal in Islam and beyond the powers of parties to a marriage contract.
They just haven't noticed that they're illegal for the past 1200 years, which means this decision will be overturned...
The court made the observations on a petition filed by Tasawwar Abbas who submitted that he married Shahida Parveen. He said he had signed an agreement with Ms Parveen’s father which required him to pay Rs 100,000 as a penalty if his daughter failed to marry him after becoming an adult.
"Ummm... I'm sweet sixteen and never been kissed. He's 72 years old with only four teeth and yesterday's dinner on his shirt front. I think I'll pass..."
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 09/27/2003 17:16 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6457 views] Top|| File under:

#1  kinda like life with Michael Jackson, but with females, huh?
Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2003 17:19 Comments || Top||

#2  Ms. Parveen must not have any living male relatives. If she did, she'd be up for an honor killing.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 09/27/2003 17:39 Comments || Top||

#3  And these people think the West is the source of all their problems? Try (a) a primative culture that is barely out of the Stone Age, and (b) a religion in which the word "Islam" means not "submission to God" but rather "submission to ignorant men wearing turbans".

Posted by: Dave D. || 09/27/2003 18:21 Comments || Top||

Massive cache of RDX found in Kashmir
Police yesterday recovered a massive cache of explosives in Jammu and Kashmir which they said were to be used by rebels to cause mayhem at a Hindu festival which starts this weekend.
Some 300kg of the deadliest military explosive, RDX, was found in a private car in the southern town of Doda.
The army spokesman said a joint police and army squad picked up two people in connection with the seizure but declined to give details.
Posted by: TS || 09/27/2003 3:52:01 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6460 views] Top|| File under:

#1  and who would have access to RDX? They didn't mix it up in a cave in Tora Bora or a hut in NWFP...Perv? Any answers?
Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2003 15:54 Comments || Top||

#2  Frank, look to the north. China has a lot to gain by keeping the Pak/India fued going. There are several border disputes between China and India, and between China and Nepal. As long as India is tied up in Jammu & Kashmir, China can do whatever they want elsewhere.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 09/27/2003 16:04 Comments || Top||

#3  The Old Patriot is 100% right. China wants a beligerent Pakistan on India's border. We would do well to consider China's actions within broader context of the War on Terror.
Posted by: Douglas De Bono || 09/27/2003 16:12 Comments || Top||

#4  It seems to me that China's biggest problem is the Islamic underbelly to the westerly direction. Otherwise they can keep the pot boiling and weaken everyone else and in the long range pick up the spoils. In order to do this, they need to keep a lid on the NORKS and not agitate too much the Taiwan situation. They recently sent a military mission to Cuba, and they have a very worrysome presence on both ends of the Panama Canal. I trust the Chicoms about as far as I can spit. They are thinking long range while we are up to our gunnels in sand fleas. I hope that we are thinking about this.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 09/27/2003 16:32 Comments || Top||

#5  I wasn't thinking Chicom's but you guys make good suggestions...I still would assume Pakis until the Chinese wrapper was shown to me. Force of habit, ya know?
Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2003 16:45 Comments || Top||

#6  AP, as far as you can spit, I'd be more inclined the say as far as I can throw an elephant
Posted by: Cheddarhead || 09/27/2003 16:51 Comments || Top||

#7  Cheddarhead---I am a somewhat optimistic man. I cut them a little slack. Heh heh.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 09/27/2003 17:05 Comments || Top||

#8  IF it was RDX it is doubtful that it came from China. News reporters, however, are not known for having a high degree of knowledge about most of the subjects they report about. That being said it may have been Sempex rather than RDX and the reporter didn't know the difference and read (or heard) somewhere was that Sempex was the Eastern European form of RDX.

Posted by: Kalroy || 09/27/2003 18:49 Comments || Top||

#9  Semtex.
Posted by: Whiskey Mike || 09/27/2003 19:40 Comments || Top||

Coded email triggers capture of Qaeda suspects in cyber cafe
The arrest was triggered when one of the suspects sat down in an Internet cafe in the wild frontier city Peshawar on Thursday morning and sent an apparently coded email inviting an Arab man to meet him. He was whispering furtively into his mobile phone in the Pashtu language, unaware of the six plainclothes intelligence agents posing as net browsers in the cafe. Shortly after, a bearded Arab man entered the cafe and approached the Pashtu-speaker. At that point the intelligence agents jumped up from their terminals and pounced on the two men.
"Stick 'em up, Muggsy! Yer surrounded!"
Habib whipped out a rod took out a pistol but was overpowered before he could fire it. Uniformed anti-terrorist commandos then arrived at the cafe in jeeps.
"Cheezit! The uniformed anti-terrorist comandos!"
Some 15 commandos blindfolded Habib, tied the hands and feet of the Arab man and bundled the pair into the waiting jeeps and drove off.
Posted by: TS || 09/27/2003 3:28:15 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6457 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Another friend chat at the terrorist-r-us cafe.
Posted by: Douglas De Bono || 09/27/2003 16:14 Comments || Top||

Kanju urges Islamic Scholars to project Islam in true perspective
The NWFP Minister for Science, Technology and IT Hussain Ahmed Kanju has called upon the Ulema and Islamic Scholars to project Islam before the world particularly Western countries in its true perspective and perception and negate the propaganda of western media against Islam. He noted with concern that Islam was being proved as a terrorist religion in the world while it was not so.
"They're not terrorists, they're freedumb fighters! Everything else is terrorism, not us."
This he said during the inauguration of Mini Book Fair, organized by the Study Aid Project at Brains Post Graduate College of Information Technology, Peshawar the other day.
"Brains Post Graduate College of IT"? Wish I had that on my degree...
The Fair was aimed to explore the great religion of Islam, attract and apprise young generation about its teachings and promote Islamic culture. Islamic Books, Audio & Video cassettes and CDs comprising of the writings and speeches of renowned Ulema and Islamic scholars of the entire Muslim world were placed in stalls of the Book Fair.
Might as well stick to the Science, Technology, and IT basics. Why waste time discussing things like pointers or memory allocation or structures? Embedded systesm? What could be more embedded than Islam?
Mr. Kanju said that Islam is the only religion of the world that guarantee the life and honor of every mankind irrespective of its religion and caste. He further said that Islam has termed the killing of a single mankind tantamount to the killing of the whole humanity therefore the Muslims could not think killing of innocent lives. He made it clear that religious seminaries were the fortress of Islam and spiritual centers of the Muslims.
Also their armories...
Later, during his visit to different sections and computer labs of Brains College, the IT Minister said that Govt was making tireless efforts for promotion of IT in the province saying that six projects worth millions rupees have been approved in the current budget. He said that efforts were underway to introduce IT as optional subject at Metric level to equip our youth with modern education.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 09/27/2003 13:57 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6461 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Keep your eyes on the swaying watch... Islam is a peaceful religion...Islam is a peace loving religion...Islam is an innocent victim of the western infidels and the Jews...you must mindlessly serve Allah and his cronies...destroy everything that is not Islamic...kill America and Israel..."
Posted by: Paul || 09/27/2003 14:23 Comments || Top||

#2  thankless job #32:
NWFP Minister for Science, Technology and IT

Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2003 14:34 Comments || Top||

#3  Frank G: either that, or one of the easiest jobs on the planet... If you can say "What's that?", you got the job...
Posted by: snellenr || 09/27/2003 14:55 Comments || Top||

#4  different sections and computer labs of Brains College

Trust me Brains College loses to Liver Tech. every time.
Posted by: Shipman || 09/27/2003 18:33 Comments || Top||

Sikandar says freedom movement in Kashmir indigenous
Azad Kashmir Prime Minister Sardar Sikandar Hayat Khan has said Indians’ war frenzy was a threat for regional peace, calling the international community to impress upon New Delhi for the resolution of Kashmir issue. He lauded President General Pervez Musharraf’s historic address to United Nations General Assembly “he highlighted Kashmir issue in a way that was expected from him.” He slammed India’s stubborn attitude for again rejecting Pakistan’s talk offer. Jammu and Kashmir was not integral part of India but jugular vein and integral part of Pakistan, Kashmiris was not committing incursions in Held Kashmir, actually 56 years ago Indian troops landed in Kashmir and committed infiltration, Sikandar said. He said Kashmir’s freedom movement was indigenous movement and not a sponsored, separatist or a fundamentalist movement, added Pakistan was not funding or providing weapons to Kashmiris.
No matter how many Pak corpses turn up...
Sikandar said Pak-India relations cannot restore unless and until the Kashmir issue is resolved. He said India was committing genocide of Kashmiris in Held Kashmir, world community should stop India for this heinous crime.
Nobody could understand that part, though, because his lips had already fallen off...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 09/27/2003 13:48 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6457 views] Top|| File under:

Muslims to acquire technical know-how to counter anti-Islamic forces
MMA while paying rich tribute to the great scholar, religious leader and founder of Jammat-e-Islami has urged the need for acquiring latest technology to counter the nefarious designs of anti-Islamic forces.
See that one over there? That's my nefarious design! The hard part with doing that is having to learn all about cause and effect. Ultimately it'll undermine your belief in djinns and such. Eventually you end up using your head for something other than a place to put your turban...
Addressing the centeal ceremony of Maulana Syed Abu-Al-Alha Madoodi here Friday the MMA leadership said that all the Muslim countries should eliminate the visa system for the citizens of each other for the promotion of trade and economic activities. They said that the West is trying to establish economic hegemony through World Trade Organization and called on the Muslims to get rid of the cowardice leaders.
"They must be killed!"
The ceremony was attended by MMA President Maulana Shah Ahmed Noorani, Paraliamentary leader Qazi Hussain Ahmed, Chairman Millat Party Sardar Farooq Ahmed Khan Leghari, MMA Deputy Secretary General Hafiz Hussain Ahmed, MNA Farid Piracha, Mian Muhammad Aslam, PML-N Acting President Makhdoom Javed Hashmi.
Without them, where would Pakland be?
Maulana Shah Ahmed Noorani stated that the Muslim Ummah is facing challenges since it inception and after the 11 September the Muslims were declared as fundamentalists and terrorists by USA and the West due to our weak policies both internally and externally.
Actually it was the explosions and the corpses...
After the 11 September incident, General Musharraf facilitated the USA to carry out attacks on Afghanistan. Despite having nuclear capability our leadership is coward and not in a position to take right a brave decisions.
"Shoulda nuked the Merkins. We'd be sittin' pretty now, if we had! We woulda, by Gawd!"
He condemned the arrest and handing over of students to USA and said that it is a crime against humanity.
Regardless of anything they'd done...
He said that forty million Pakistanis are living below t he poverty line and if the wealth earned by Arabs through oil is divided in all the Muslim countries the poverty would have to be eliminated in the Muslim world.
Good idea. Tell the Saudis to give you their dough. Wave your nukes at them...
Qazi Hussain Ahmed said that the usurper has taken it a matter of prestige and is not ready to amend the LFO, but the MMA is determined to bring the country on the track of khalifate democracy. He said that USA has trapped in Afghanistan, Iraq and even in Palestine. He said that West is afraid of Muslim world.
He's right there. The absolute lack of reasoning abilities prevalent there is frightening...
Hafiz Hussain Ahmed said that the West and the Jews have gathered against Islam and the USA is plang to conquer the entire world.
Can I have Samoa? I've always wanted to own Samoa...
He said that US President Bill Clinton once spoke about the Jewish and Western plans against Palestine and the Asian Sates, the Jewish lobby had involved him in Monica scandal.
Oh, that's what happened, is it?
Sardar Farooq Leghari said that after 11 September, the USA and the west is trying to eliminate Islam and the Muslims, but they would not succeed in their ulterior motives and urged the Muslims to follow the teachings of Islam.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 09/27/2003 13:43 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6458 views] Top|| File under:

#1  After constantly hearing these crackpots spout all of these outrageous fantasies, you have to ask yourself one question.

Are their water supplies tainted with LSD? These guys are so far out of touch with reality that it is beyond sad.

Note: (in monotone voice) The Jewish lobby did not force me to say that.
Posted by: Paul || 09/27/2003 14:30 Comments || Top||

#2  Mullah: "The first item for us to embrace and master will be .....toilet paper."
Posted by: Paul || 09/27/2003 14:39 Comments || Top||

#3  "Note: (in monotone voice) The Jewish lobby did not force me to say that"

that's proof positive they did! Also, if you hadn't said that, it would be proof positive they were controlling you! also......
Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2003 14:50 Comments || Top||

#4  Are their water supplies tainted with LSD?

Worse than that: MHMD.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 09/27/2003 15:32 Comments || Top||

#5  ...forty million Pakistanis are living below t he poverty line ...

Which poverty line? It's gotta be pretty dang low in that part of the world. What's a typical Paki make per year?
Posted by: mojo || 09/27/2003 17:40 Comments || Top||

#6  Mullah: "The first item for us to embrace and master will be .....toilet paper."

Remember no right-handed toilet paper.
Posted by: Shipman || 09/27/2003 18:36 Comments || Top||

Mastermind of US consulate suicidal attack arrested
We can add this guy to our collectino of masterminds...
The head of three-member group and the mastermind of US Embassy attack was arrested in Karachi Friday. The police has seized a heavy cache of deadly weapons, says Amjad Kiani, SHO of Shadman police station. The arrested mastermind is reported to be member of banned Lashkar-e-Jhagvi along with his three accomplices from Al-Huda mosque in North Karachi. The culprits were identified as Hamid Murad, Faizullah and Hafiz Saeed.
Not the Hafiz Saeed?... Oh. Darn. It isn't.
The head of the group got training in Afghanistan and they were now planning to commit suicide attacks on foreign Consulate, Restaurants and Imambarghs, Mr. Kiani adds.
If they're going to do that, I think they should do it right. They should practice two or three times at home before trying it in public.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 09/27/2003 13:22 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6457 views] Top|| File under:

Nawabzada Khan keels over dead
The grand old man of Pakistani politics, who united the two main opposition parties to confront President Pervez Musharraf, has died. Nawabzada Nasr Allah Khan, 85, died of a heart attack on Saturday, his doctors said.
God struck him dead...
Khan, who headed the Pakistan Democratic Party, brought together the rival parties of former prime ministers Benazir Bhutto and Nawaz Sharif on one platform against Musharraf’s military government. His death has raised concerns over the future of the alliance.
Be still, my beating heart...
Bhutto and Sharif, both living in exile, accepted Khan as the chief of the Alliance for Restoration of Democracy (ARD), after Musharraf led a coup against Sharif in 1999. "It is a serious setback to the alliance," said Farhat Allah Babur, member of the upper house and a spokesman for the Bhutto's Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP). "He had kept the two parties with opposing political views together under the ARD," Babur added. The ARD, along with the Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal - an alliance of religious parties - regularly protests and boycotts parliament, demanding that Musharraf, who is president and chief of the armed forces, quit one of the two posts. Political analysts say the PPP and Sharif's faction of Pakistan Muslim League (PML-N) are likely to find it difficult to replace Khan with someone acceptable to both.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 09/27/2003 13:10 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6459 views] Top|| File under:

#1  A great loss to the country and even greater to the future of democracy in Pakistan.
Posted by: Mansoor Usman Awan || 10/06/2003 10:39 Comments || Top||

U.S. Transfers Border Patrol to Iraqis
MUNTHERIA BORDER CROSSING, Iraq (AP) - The U.S. Army for the first time Saturday gave Iraq’s provisional government responsibility for patrolling a stretch of the country’s borders - a sensitive, 210-mile region of forbidding desert frontier between Iraq and Iran.
"Now remember your training, Ahmed."
"I understand, Frank. Watch the road, keep a, um, how you say, ’sharp eye’ out for trouble."
"That’s right, Ahmed. Stay alert, search the cars carefully."
"I understand, Frank."
"And Ahmed, if a guy has a turban on, what do you do?"
"Um, how you say, ’drill him between the eyes’?"
"Excellent, Ahmed! I think you’re ready."

The transfer was significant, because it comes as the U.S.-led coalition faces pressure to give Iraqis more control over their affairs. And security here is crucial: The border is a popular crossing point for illegal Iranian pilgrims en route to Shiite holy sites, raising fears that al-Qaida or other terrorists could sneak through in disguise.

Calling it an "important day for the Iraqi people," Col. Michael Moody, commander of the 4th Infantry’s 4th Brigade, formally handed patrol duties in area to Iraqi Col. Nazim Shareef Mohammed.
I suspect 4ID will be watching closely.
Part of an American drive to ease the burden on thinly stretched U.S. soldiers, the switch marked the first time since the fall of Saddam Hussein that Iraqis have been given policing authority over an entire border region. The American occupation forces now have only an advisory role.

The frontier includes a craggy, mountainous region - some of the most treacherous terrain in Iraq - and temperatures often surpass 122 degrees. It runs from the edges of Kurdish-controlled territory in northern Iraq to a point just southeast of Baghdad, encompassing nearly all of Delay province, one of three under 4th Infantry control. "If this experiment is successful in Diyalia province, then it is an example for all of Iraq," declared Lt. Col. Reggie Allen, commanding officer of the 4th Infantry Division’s 1st Squadron, 10th Cavalry, standing just near the border.

Mohammed’s 1,178-strong force is made up of Arabs, Kurds and Turks. "We are unique," said Mohammed, a Kurd. "This is an important day for us because we officially take over this highly sensitive border."
Crucial test for the new Iraqi army.
U.S. soldiers started training the Iraqi border forces in May, in sessions that touched on human rights of detainees as well as searches for Islamic militants or suicide bombers of the Iraqi resistance, trying to blend in with pilgrims.

With no diplomatic relations between Iran and Iraq, many Iranians try to cross at a point about 75 miles east of Baghdad on their way to Najaf and Karbala - the most-sacred cities for Shiites after Mecca and Medina. Allen said his 4th Infantry forces, equipped with armored vehicles and scout helicopters, have stopped more than 14,000 illegal pilgrims since the end of August. The pilgrims often trek for two or three days through the wasteland to reach a highway just inside Iraq, hoping to hook up with smugglers who charge them up to $30 to drive them south to the two cities. They are often robbed by the people offering to drive them.
Sounds like our border with Mexico.
"The word is out in Iran that Iraq is free," Allen said. "For years, Saddam Hussein did not allow them into the country. Now, they mass themselves in groups sometimes as large as 1,000 and cross. Some die of dehydration as they cross." When border forces catch them, the Iranians are held in a collection facility, screened and returned home.

Lt. Col. Vince Price, who runs part of the border with Allen, said border guards recently stopped two Afghans with Taliban identification cards. The Afghans were released, but Price said it was a sign of the close cooperation between the Iraqi border police and U.S. Army.
Posted by: Steve White || 09/27/2003 5:27:22 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6462 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Tagged and released, no doubt.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 09/27/2003 17:45 Comments || Top||

#2  Mohammed’s 1,178-strong force is made up of Arabs, Kurds and Turks.

I like to see that, although I'm curious. Does "Arab" include Sunnis and Shi'ites?
Posted by: Dar || 09/27/2003 17:46 Comments || Top||

#3  Teach 'em the basics, they'll be ok: "No politics or Religon discussions, period."

Weather, fine. Ditto Soccer and TV shows/Movies.
Posted by: mojo || 09/27/2003 19:17 Comments || Top||

#4  "That’s right, Ahmed. Stay alert, search the cars carefully."
"I understand, Frank."

Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2003 20:17 Comments || Top||

#5  Hmmmmm

Had to name the GI something :-)
Posted by: Steve White || 09/27/2003 22:51 Comments || Top||

U.S. Troops Kill Iraqis in Falluja ; Guerrillas Attack Rasheed Hotel
EFL/FU - Iraq Roundup via Rooters - watch the spin
Iraqi police said U.S. troops shot dead four civilians in the volatile town of Falluja, and guerrillas fired grenades at a Baghdad hotel on Saturday housing senior officials with the U.S.-led occupation forces.
Okay. That's two facts...
U.S. reconstruction efforts have been hampered by persistent guerrilla attacks and, after an appeal for foreign help fell on deaf ears, Washington activated 10,000 National Guard troops on Friday for Iraq duty and put another 5,000 on standby.
That paragraph has nothing to do with the corpses in the first paragraph...
The U.S. administrator in Iraq, Paul Bremer, said it was too early to know how much other countries would help in rebuilding Iraq, devastated by two wars and more than a decade of economic sanctions. President Bush has asked Congress for about $20 billion for the job but some lawmakers and aides suggested foreign countries might donate only about $2 billion. "Let’s wait and see what we get," Bremer told reporters in Washington. A donors conference is set for Madrid in October.
Nice to know, but nothing to do with corpses and there won't be any facts until sometime next month...
Since Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein fell in April, guerrilla attacks have persisted on U.S. and British troops, and Iraqis have complained of the slow pace of restoring basic services.
Two statements of the obvious. If you want to make a real intellectual jump, you might try connecting the two...
The turmoil was expected to fuel protests on Saturday in cities around the world, with demonstrators angered over the failure so far to find weapons of mass destruction, cited by the United States and Britain as the reason for the pre-emptive war.
Which turmoil? The corpses in Fallujah? Or the background noise of guerrilla attacks? Why are the demonstrators so angered over the failure to find weapons of mass destruction? Aren't they the same ones who were saying their either weren't there or that they weren't dangerous?
It would be the first major protest in Britain and most of the other cities since the war ended. In London, up to 100,000 demonstrators were expected to march, organizers said, and vowed more protests when Bush visits in November.
Here's an item that'd make an interesting news story: how many of the demonstrators, especially the organizers, are involved with each and every similar demonstration everyplace? Where do they get the money to fly from country to country and operate papier machè puppets?
In Iraq, more than 150,000 U.S. and British soldiers have struggled to bring stability to the country’s 26 million people.
Okay. That's even more than the number of people expected to demonstrate in London. What's it have to do with them? What's it have to do with the corpses in the first paragraph?
Explosions were heard across Baghdad early on Saturday and residents near the al-Rashid hotel said they were woken by three thunderous bangs.
"Fatimah! What was that?"
"It was a thunderous bang, Mahmoud. Go back to sleep."
The hotel is part of a large complex on the west bank of the Tigris river that has been taken over by the U.S.-led occupation authority. U.S. officials said three grenades were fired at the hotel, one hitting a wall, but there were no casualties. The hotel houses U.S. military and civilian staff.
Bet the bad guys beat the hell out of that wall, though...
In Falluja, west of Baghdad, police said three men and a woman from the same family were killed when U.S. soldiers fired at their car on a road just outside the town.
Now we're back to the corpses in the first paragraph...
The U.S. military confirmed the Friday night incident but said two Iraqis were killed when their car ran a checkpoint.
Falluja’s burned the "free run thru a checkpoint" goodwill
Angry residents chanting anti-American slogans flocked to a nearby hospital where Reuters television footage showed four corpses and several wounded. Falluja is about 50 km (30 miles) from Baghdad, in the so-called "Sunni Triangle" where resistance to the occupation is strongest.
Presumably the Iraqis know that, even as they load Mom and the kids and Grampaw and the puppies and kittens and baby ducks into the car for a midnight drive, speeding past checkpoints with gay abandon...
Guerrilla activity across Iraq has killed 80 U.S. soldiers since Washington declared major combat operations over on May 1.
How many Iraqis has it killed? How many Syrians, Yemenis and Paleos has it killed?
U.S. officials have said foreigners coming to Iraq to fight U.S. and British forces had become a major "terrorist" problem
But they weren't the ones bumped off running the checkpoint at Fallujah. Or were they? Rooters never gets around to saying...
Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2003 10:46:47 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6457 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The "checkpoint run" must be the local sport amoung the local yutes. Somebody needs to eliminate their access to Vin Diesel movies.
Posted by: Super Hose || 09/27/2003 11:21 Comments || Top||

#2  Even worse, Fred, I edited out the not-on-topic stuff LOL
Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2003 11:50 Comments || Top||

#3  Closer examination of the so-called "deaf ears" reveals them to have been covered up with the listeners' hands. Furthermore, the listeners were discovered to be humming and muttering "I'm not listening, la la la la la la" under their breath.
Posted by: snellenr || 09/27/2003 11:59 Comments || Top||

#4  Guerrilla activity across Iraq has killed 80 U.S. soldiers since Washington declared major combat operations over on May 1.

This is equivalent to deaths at the Battle of Natural Bridge. Never heard of it? A two hour desultory firefight in the swamps south of Tallahassee.
Posted by: Shipman || 09/27/2003 12:47 Comments || Top||

#5  Various U.S. media have reported that several thousand U.S. citizens have been slaughtered since January 1, 2003, on U.S. highways while travelling in evil imported automobiles, while the Bush Administration gloated over its victories elsewhere. This shocking figure dwarfs the 80 military casualties resulting from the operations of activists practicing their honest and traditional Jihadi trade in Iraq, and several Big Media executives are expected to resign before sundown in shame at failing to use it as another club to beat the evil Republicans.
Posted by: Gospodin Polopodsky || 09/27/2003 13:14 Comments || Top||

#6  My dad was part of the 4th Armored Division during World War II. He said that they were pinned down once, and called for air support. Sixteen twin-engine bombers dropped their load. Half landed on the US side, half landed on the German side. Dad said they lost over 100 guys from that one incident. Don't have a clue how many the Germans lost, but Dad was so angry when he told me this he could chew railroad spikes and spit out thumbtacks.

World War II lasted four years, and killed about 300,000 US troops (millions of Brits, French, Italians, Greeks, and others, plus Japanese and all the people of the Pacific. Russia lost 20 MILLION). We've been at this for less than six months, and have lost around 300 to combat. While each soldier's loss is a tragedy, it isn't unexpected, and it isn't 'a quagmire'. I do believe it's about time to declare open war on SOME reporters, though.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 09/27/2003 13:16 Comments || Top||

#7  U.S. Troops Kill Iraqis

Wow, nice inflammatory headline. Of course, this is probably par for the course for Roto-Reuters.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 09/27/2003 13:17 Comments || Top||

#8  I've gone through five different online papers, and there's nothing on this in any of them. Wonder if Rooters has unburied a story from last week, and are using it. Par for the course for that limp rag... And they used to be an organization one could be proud of. The shame of it all! Must have a new muslim editor.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 09/27/2003 15:56 Comments || Top||

#9  ? Fox news has it, including info on teh biggest weapons cache find:
U.S. troops also unearthed one of their biggest weapons caches to date near the village of Uja, Saddam Hussein's birthplace near Fallujah

The raid on the farm near Uja was the second in as many days. On a tip, troops dug near a river bank to find 1,000 pounds of explosives used to make the homemade bombs that have killed numerous American soldiers.

The cache also turned up 23 Russian-made surface-to-air missiles; four rocket-propelled grenade launchers and 115 rockets; a mortar and 40 mortar rounds; 1,300 blasting caps and 423 hand grenades.

Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2003 16:48 Comments || Top||

#10  And that was just the stuff that was planned for a wedding celebration!
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 09/27/2003 17:09 Comments || Top||

Al-Qaeda suspects held in Iraq
US forces in Iraq are holding 19 suspected members of the al-Qaeda network, the US administrator in Iraq has said. The suspects are among 248 foreign fighters being held in Iraq, Paul Bremer told reporters in Washington. The largest number of fighters - 123 - came from Syria, with large numbers coming from Iran and Yemen, he said. Mr Bremer said most of the "terrorists" were getting in via "ratlines" from Syria.
Heh - the French connection?!
The US has repeatedly accused Syria of blocking US efforts to restore order in Iraq - charges that Syria denies.
"Lies! All lies!"
The flow of fighters into Iraq was the biggest obstacle to the peaceful reconstruction of Iraq, Mr Bremer said. But he insisted the fighting had not stopped the reconstruction efforts, which were seen as crucial to the US-led war on terror. "We don’t want Iraq to become a breeding ground for terrorism in the future," Mr Bremer said.
But a terrorists’ charnel house would be AOK.
The US administrator said he did not have the nationalities of all the foreign fighters captured in Iraq. When pressed on how he knew 19 of the detainees were al-Qaeda members he told reporters: "That’s been a matter that has come out in their interrogations or in their documents." Mr Bremer said some of the suspects were members of Ansar al-Islam, an al-Qaeda-linked group whose base in northern Iraq was destroyed early in the Iraq conflict. Possibly several hundred Ansar members had managed to regroup and re-enter Iraq, he said.
Posted by: Bulldog || 09/27/2003 5:44:51 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6457 views] Top|| File under:

#1  aahhhh, Iraq: the Bug Light of the Middle East
Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2003 10:21 Comments || Top||

#2  "Iraq: the Bug Light of the Middle East"
Oooh, I like that much better than the flypaper image. Although Bug Zapper would be better. We should promote that as a new meme.
Posted by: Steve || 09/27/2003 12:16 Comments || Top||

#3  I haven't heard this mentioned yet on any TV network other than FOX news.
Posted by: g wiz || 09/27/2003 12:58 Comments || Top||

#4  Iraq: the Bug Zapper of the Middle East™?

Steve and I get a nickel every time it's used? Crap, that leaves out all the democrats...wish I'd trademarked "Quagmire!" and "it's all about the ooiiillll!"
Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2003 13:08 Comments || Top||

#5  US forces in Iraq are holding 19 suspected members of the al-Qaeda network, the US administrator in Iraq has said.

Put the bastards at the top of an empty multistory building and collapse it.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 09/27/2003 13:31 Comments || Top||

Africa: West
French roll into Ivorian rebel HQ after gunbattle
French troops sealed off a bank in the Ivory Coast rebel base of Bouake on Saturday after a bloody battle for spoils between bands of rebels and looters that left at least 23 dead, witnesses said.
"My spoils! Back off!"
"Take that! [Bang!]
The fighting came as the latest sign of growing instability in the world's top cocoa producer after rebels walked out of a unity government this week and put in doubt a peace accord brokered by former colonial power France. Residents in Bouake, 350 km north of the main city of Abidjan, said French armoured cars rolled into town early on Saturday morning and surrounded the branch of the West African central bank where fighting was focused.
"Look out! It's the French army! Hide the Ripple!"
"The bank is now secured by French troops and our own forces... Everything is very quiet," rebel political leader Guillaume Soro told Reuters by phone from Bouake.
"We're so depressed!"
"There are around 23 dead — 21 on the robbers' side and we lost two of our own soldiers," he added. Witnesses said the looters included both civilians and rebel fighters keen to get what they could from the bank after looters blasted the safe open with explosives on Thursday.
"We're blowin' the safe! Step back!"
"Gimme some o' that dough!"
Soro said he could not say for sure exactly who was involved.
"I think it might have been those dead guys, though..."
Shops and market stalls stayed shut on Saturday morning and few vehicles braved the streets save for pickup trucks bristling with armed rebel fighters.
"We're blowin' the fruit stand! Stand back!"
"Gimme some o' them mangos!"
Bouake, the second city, is the headquarters of rebels who triggered the civil war in September 2002 with an attempted coup against President Laurent Gbagbo. The coup failed, but the rebels seized the northern half of the country, entrenching tribal divisions between the mainly Muslim north and the largely Christian and animist south still controlled by Gbagbo's forces.
More on Islam's bloody border...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 09/27/2003 21:07 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6459 views] Top|| File under:

#1  More on Islam's bloody border.

It ain't there fault! They see a bare ankle and they go nutz!
Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2003 22:03 Comments || Top||

Home Front
5 Pakistanis held for posing as US citizens
FORT WORTH: Five Pakistanis were arrested Thursday for bilking the federal government out of millions of dollars by lying about their citizenship on Small Business Administration loan forms. In a news release announcing the arrests, US Attorney Jane J. Boyle said there was no sign the money was used to support terrorism.
Just dishonest greedheads, not jihadis...
The men — Rafiq R. Lakhani, Najma Yasim Lakhani, Zehra Akbar Ali, Shabbir Akbar Ali and Mohammed Ali were charged with misrepresenting themselves as a US citizen, Boyle said in the release Thursday evening. They made an initial court appearance Thursday before a magistrate judge in Fort Worth, and will be detained until a detention hearing, set for early next week.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 09/27/2003 16:51 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6459 views] Top|| File under:

#1  deportations too good for them tho'...at a nickel a license plate, and assuming $2 Mil, it would take....um..carry the 4....8 million plates each to reimburse
Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2003 17:03 Comments || Top||

#2  Only problem is, Frank, that's the Texas output for two months! Gotta make it harder. I understand the Houston Ship Channel has a problem of silting up. Send them down with a shovel and a pail, then pay them by the dry weight at 10c a ton...
Posted by: Old Patriot || 09/27/2003 17:34 Comments || Top||

#3  Didn't Mohammed Atta try to apply for a small business loan?
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 09/27/2003 17:49 Comments || Top||

#4  Hell, these sounds like they got the makin of good Texans to me.
Posted by: Billy Sol Shipman || 09/27/2003 18:21 Comments || Top||

Africa: Central
Nigeria Satellite Blasts Into Orbit
email scams to go worldwide; videos of stoning of adultresses to air hourlyLAGOS,
Nigeria Sept. 27 — In a fiery liftoff, a Nigerian satellite blasted into orbit Saturday aboard a Russian rocket, propelling one of the poorest nations on earth into space for the first time. The entire nation? I thought it was just a satellite? Millions of Nigerians watched the early morning launch from Russia’s Plesetsk Cosmodrome broadcast live on state television.

"It makes me proud to be a Nigerian," said Prosper Sunday, a 27-year-old security guard in the commercial capital, Lagos. "It shows our nation is progressing. We’ve joined the space age."
"Now we can use titanium ingots instead of stones to kill those violating Shari’a. Less weight so your arms don’t hurt, but more reuse options"
The government plans to use the $13 million satellite to monitor water resources, email scams, soil erosion, deforestation and natural or man-made disasters, space agency spokesman Solomon Olaniyi told The Associated Press.

It will be used to surveil military facilities and the country’s crude oil pipelines and infrastructure. Nigeria is one of the world’s largest exporters of oil, but thieves siphon off hundreds of thousands of barrels daily.
D’oh! How about patrolling it on the ground on Earth?
"It’s a great feat for Nigeria," said Joseph Akinyede of the National Space Research and Development Agency, based in the capital, Abuja. "We have a footprint in space."
"a footprint in space"?
On Earth, however, Nigeria is struggling to provide 132 million citizens with clean water, basic health services and education.
Most villages outside state capitals have no running water or electricity, 70 percent of the country’s roads are dirt tracks, and over 30 percent of the population is illiterate. Only nine in every 1,000 residents has a telephone, only six in 1,000 a computer, according to the World Bank. Annual per capital income is about $290.

"The satellite is a waste of money," said 21-year-old Gabriel Mordi, selling stolen mobile phone cards on a dusty street in Lagos, a city that seen from above is a colossal sprawl of millions of rusting tin-roof shacks and palm trees.

"They should be helping the poor. Most people here are just struggling to find something to eat."
"Pygmies are out of season"
In the northern city of Kano, barber Adamu Ahmed, 27, who was shaving a man in a blue-flowing robe on a sweltering street, said he was unaware of the launch since he had no radio or TV.

"They haven’t told us much about space," he said. "I’ve heard of people going to the moon, but I don’t know how they got there." they walked..can’t you see the footprints?
The word for satellite is "tauraru danadam," which means "human moon" in the local Hausa language.
Nigeria is unlikely to man a flight to the moon anytime soon, but the government hopes one day to build and launch its own satellites.

The so-called NigeriaSat-1 was produced by British-based company, Surrey Satellite Technology, with the help of Nigerian technicians trained in Britain, Olaniyi said.

The Russian Kosmos-3M rocket that lifted off from Plesetsk Cosmodrome with NigeriaSat-1 carried five other satellites with it two from Russia, and one each from Turkey, Britain and South Korea.

A team of 15 Nigerian scientists and engineers will control their country’s satellite from a ground station in Abuja as it circles the earth during a five to seven year life-span, Olaniyi said.

It will join a constellation of half a dozen others some yet to be launched that will jointly monitor disaster areas worldwide, Olaniyi said
WTF??? I can’t make stuff like this up...this is better than Scrappleface even
Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2003 3:06:15 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6461 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Actually, we do much the same. Most of the pipelines in the US are patrolled either in small planes or from satellites. Satellites can also keep track of the health of cropland, the density and quality of forests, the amount of debris washing into rivers, and literally thousands of other things. What's most important, all this can be done by a handful of people. We were doing crop estimates in the old Soviet Union in the 70's that were within 1% of actual production. New imaging systems can provide reams of information from a handful of images taken over succeeding days.

I'm not sure Nigeria has the expertise to do that caliber of information extraction, but if they do, it could be a gold mine for them.

Not to mention that you can also watch your neighbors at the same time - which may be the real reason Nigeria launched this satellite.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 09/27/2003 16:11 Comments || Top||

#2  Wouldn't it of just been cheaper to buy time on a commercial bird. Of course IIRCC the launch site is the one the Russians use for polar orbits so maybe the Nigerians are thinking of getting into the Rent-a-Spysat business. Who built it for them
Posted by: Cheddarhead || 09/27/2003 16:56 Comments || Top||

#3  OP - I was questioning their priorities first. The practices you noted for satellites are good, and considering that we get quite a bit of black gold from them, I'm sure we could've tasked sats as needed for the Agri/erosion/etc. uses if asked, along with analysis. The CIA watches all these conflicts, and could provide intel, especially on pipeline watch, good points in your post...but, what next? Somalian astronauts?
Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2003 17:01 Comments || Top||

#4  Frank, re-read the last part of my post. Can you say, "Al Qaeda Spy Satellite"? I knew you could! Nigeria has the oil money, but have a problem with an over-zealous Islamic minority in the north. They may be trying to find a way to put some pressure there to ease the problems they're having. Nigeria's a good place to pull this kind of deal - they're still in the Commonwealth, they have gobs of oil money (that sadly disappears into bottomless pits somewhere, and does nothing for their people), they have good connections with both Islamic and non-Islamic nations, and they're not on any terror-alert board.

That doesn't mean it can't be for purely speculative reasons, or for actually doing what they've announced. There are places in Nigeria where roads CAN'T BE BUILT - at least, none that will last more than a year or two.

There's also the possibility they're fronts for other interests, looking for the next mother load, in Chad, Somalia, Sudan, Congo, or wherever. You can get a LOT of data from a satellite, and it doesn't have to be just from your nation. Consider how much better we manage Alaskan resources, thanks to satellites! Not much movement during at least six months of the year up there!

Try to remember that we've been imaging the Earth since at least the mid-1960's. The systems have gotten better and better. LandSat has resolution of a meter or less - more than enough to meet most non-military needs. SPOT, the French satellite, does equally well, if not better. The Russians have begun selling their imagery on the open market, for whatever it will bring. The US has declassified thousands of images, and they're available. Not much of this world's surface that hasn't been covered - I know, I've seen a large percentage of it!

I'd say the reason Nigeria wants its own satellite is because that way, no one can control - or even know - what they take pictures of, or how they use the imagery. Whether that's good or bad, I leave up to you.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 09/27/2003 17:24 Comments || Top||

#5  Some friends of mine just moved to Nigeria from Texas. Check out www.anthisfamily.com, especially the link to their blog for some first hand accounts of how "interesting" life is there.
Posted by: lkl || 09/27/2003 17:27 Comments || Top||

#6  How in the hell can a diesel operate in outer space?
Posted by: Shipman || 09/27/2003 18:13 Comments || Top||

#7  It's kind of funny, they make a big deal about 'ooo we're in space now!' Yet the British built the satellite and Russia put it in orbit. Yeah, great technological leap for Nigeria, they learned how to wire money.
Posted by: Swiggles || 09/27/2003 21:37 Comments || Top||

SANA Press Commentaries
Al-Thawra stressed today that the wishes expressed by the US Undersecretary of State Richard Armitage on building basic and good relations with the Syrian people reflect in fact a joint wish between the Syrian and American peoples. In its editorial the daily emphasized that establishing good relations between the two peoples has always been expressed by the Syrian side.
In between sporadic calls for death to the Great Satan...
It expressed the hope that this is also the wish of the US. officials and not conditioned to the so-called Syria's Accountability Act which is an unprecedented move in the history of international laws and relations. Syria will remain ready to co-operate with the US and other countries of the world under the UN and international laws to etablish a just and comprehensive peace based on international legitimacy resolutions, Al--Thawra concluded.
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#1  ass-kissing for not publicly laying the Gitmo spies at Assad's doorstep, nothing more
Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2003 14:35 Comments || Top||

Middle East
Egypt's Jamaah plays a different tune
Egypt's once violent Jamaah Islamiya now renounce violence - but not everyone is impressed by the new message.
This could be significant, too, given that they're a part of Binny's International Islamic Front for Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders.
Ayman al-Zawahri’s recent calls to arms could embarrass those who once fought alongside him back home, especially when they are trying to give up their legacy of armed opposition. For years a security nightmare before its leaders renounced violence in 1997, Egypt’s Jamaah Islamiya is desperately trying to reassure the state of its new ‘reformed’ line.
Ayman linked them to Binny in February 1998...
The Jamaah’s 51-year-old leader Karam Zuhdi - who has been in prison since 1981 over his role in the assassination of President Anwar al-Sadat the same year – caused a stir last July with a frank confession to the Arabic newspaper Asharq Al-Awsat. Asked what he would have done if he could turn back the clock, Zuhdi replied: “I would have intervened to prevent his murder 
 Sadat, may God bless his soul with mercy, is a martyr along with everyone who died in that fight.”
"I'm so sorry I got caught..."
From killing the country’s former president to anointing his soul, Egypt’s largest armed opposition group has indeed travelled a long way. The Jamaah leaders launched a unilateral ceasefire initiative in July 1997, at a time when the group’s infrastructure outside prisons had been crippled by security blows. By then its insurgency had claimed the lives of more than 1000 people, mostly police officers, the Jamaah activists, and, on several occasions, Copts, tourists and secular intellectuals. The group’s leadership, the Shura Council, followed their announcement by producing four revisionist studies. They reiterated that the government was not “infidel” after all, and renounced violence. Initially the group’s calls fell on deaf ears. The regime distrusted the Jamaah, especially after one of its units slaughtered 58 tourists and four Egyptians in November 1997, in Luxor.
Fooled 'em twice, didn't they?
But later, following the 11 September 2001 attacks, the regime came to endorse the initiative. The government turnaround was confirmed in June 2002, when authorities allowed the editor of state-owned weekly Al-Mussawar to interview the Jamaa leaders inside jails. Since then, they have become media celebrities with their routine denunciation of terror. More importantly, recent crackdowns on Muslim opposition movements have not targeted al-Jamaah sympathisers, whose “good conduct” even earned them praise from the country’s interior minister. “Nearly 1000 members of Jamaah Islamiya have been released over a period of time [three years] in line with clear guidelines and their commitment to rejecting violence,” Major General Habib al-Adly, Egypt’s minister of interior, told Al-Mussawar in September. “All those who have been freed are living normally among the people and clearly state their rejection of violence and their total commitment to the initiative declared by the Jamaah leadership,” the minister added. Rights groups put the figure of Islamists in prisons at 15,000.
Toss enough of them into jug and the remainder starts to think...
While the minister is pleased, yesterday’s comrades in arms from other groups remain furious. London-based Islamists such as Yasir al-Sirri and Hani al-Sebai have labelled the Jamaah’s moves a sell-out.
They're in England, aren't they? And the guys in jug are in Egypt. Maybe they should go to Egypt and say the same things...
“These comments are coming from those who are not Jamaah Islamiya’s sons,” said lawyer Montasser al-Zayat in reply. Al-Zayat is a former Jamaah member who has acted as its de facto spokesman. “They are commenting on an internal issue. The Jamaah did not force anyone to join its violence in the first place, so no one should instruct the Jamaah now on how to handle the initiative.”
That's Arabic for "butt out."
But the Jamaah’s revisions are not solely its “internal” business anymore. The group is touching the cornerstones of a deep legacy. The moves have already drawn a crescendo of criticism from London-based activists, including the Saudi-born dissident Muhammad al-Massari, and Syrian exile Abu Baseer.
Neither of whom is in Egypt, so they don't have to worry about being tossed in jug and watching Mahmoud the Jailer swallow the key...
Observers who have been closely monitoring the Jamaah’s development, like Muhammad Salah of Al Hayat, say the exiles’ criticism is unlikely to have an impact on the group. “They will not listen to them,” said Salah. “Coming under external attack could even give more legitimacy to the Jamaah’s leadership (among its members).”
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Mubarak, Junior, calls for reforms
The son of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak has taken centre stage at the ruling NPD party's annual congress, demanding greater political freedom, legal reform and women's rights. Speaking at the start of the National Democratic Party's three-day event, seen by some observers as part of efforts to groom him for leadership, Gamal Mubarak called for "modernisation" of both the country's legislature and administration.
I'm not sure modern systems of governance include a hereditary presidency...
"We want political parties to play a more dynamic role," he said, advocating legal reforms "to lift the obstacles that hinder their action ... a big step in developing political life in Egypt."
Does that mean they're going to stop busting heads?
The 40-year-old younger son of the Egyptian leader, who also heads an NDP policy-making body, called for the "modernisation of trade union laws and a strengthened role for civil institutions." Legal reforms should include the penal code, to "guarantee human rights" and end "sexual discrimination," he said. He also advocated "a new pact between the state and the citizen" to allow people to play a greater role in "political participation".
Other than the right to form mobs?
In a statement to the congress, President Mubarak further stressed that his party was determined to pursue "political and economic reform". He promised to "lay the foundations of a multi-party politics, in which the NDP ... will be one of the pillars". In the message read by Information Minister and party secretary general Safwat al-Sherif, said, "the rights of citizens are a priority (for the NPD and the government) and closely linked to democratisation."
I always find any government with an information minister suspect, for some reason...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 09/27/2003 12:44 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6460 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I always find any government with an information minister suspect, for some reason...

Especially if his name begins with "al-"....
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 09/27/2003 13:25 Comments || Top||

#2  Interesting article -- it's the first time I've seen Prince Gamal mentioned in an article about Egyptian "politics" -- anyone know anything about his background?
Posted by: snellenr || 09/27/2003 14:44 Comments || Top||

#3  It's ok to be suspicious of this guy and his motives...but this kind of talk NEVER would have been heard in Egypt before the fall of Iraq...can the Bush strategy be working? Many signs, including this, say it is...
Posted by: R. McLeod || 09/28/2003 3:13 Comments || Top||

Fatah names most members of new PA Cabinet, dumps Dahlan
EFL/FU; Arafat retains control, says: "Come and get me coppers!"
Yasser Arafat’s Fatah party on Saturday put together a new Palestinian Cabinet, replacing a U.S.-backed security chief with an Arafat loyalist and bringing in nearly a dozen new faces from Fatah and smaller terrorists factions.
I knew they'd dump Dahlan, if they didn't kill him. Somebody might still try to bump him off...
With the ouster of security chief Mohammed Dahlan, it appears even less likely snowball in hell that the Palestinian security forces will begin dismantling militant groups, as required by the U.S.-backed "road map" peace plan. Israel has said it will not move on the plan unless such action is taken.
They're simply going to refuse to do it. If they were to try, Hamas would fight them, and they're not convinced they would win. They're counting on the EU finding a way for a Paleo state to come into being without that happening. And they might be right. The subsequent Paleostate would be dedicated to the destruction of Israel, with a Baathist-style dictatorship...
In the Gaza Strip, about 1,000 Dahlan supporters staged a protest, burning pictures of Fatah officials. I smell dissension
The Cabinet formation came a day after a Palestinian gunman sneaked into a Jewish West Bank settlement where residents were celebrating the start of the Jewish New Year, knocked on the door of a trailer home and shot and killed a man and a baby girl. It was the first deadly attack by Palestinians since Israel’s security Cabinet decided Sept. 11 to remove Arafat from this Earth. Israel has not said when it would take action against the Palestinian leader, but it is believed the trigger could be a major Palestinian terror attack with many Israeli casualties.
Like I say, the next bus goes, Yasser's helizapped. Meanwhile, the bad guys will be trying to probe the limits...
Israel and the United States have been trying to sideline Arafat, accusing him of encouraging terror attacks and blocking peace efforts. However, Arafat retains significant power, and the incoming Palestinian puppet prime minister, Ahmed Qurei, has given the Arafat-controlled Fatah movement considerable say in forming the Cabinet.
"Please don’t kill me!"
On Saturday, Fatah leaders named 23 ministers of the Cabinet. The remaining one to three slots will be filled in coming days, and the Cabinet then will be presented to the Palestinian parliament for approval. In a reflection of Arafat’s sway over the process, a longtime ally, Maj. Gen. Nasser Yousef, was named to the post of interior minister, putting him in charge of the security forces.
That was after Yasser spit on him...
Outgoing Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas had held the title of interior minister in his government, but the security chief in effect was Dahlan, who enjoyed U.S. support, even though he also backed away from cracking down on militants. During Abbas’ four months in office, Arafat was constantly wrangling with his prime minister over control of the security forces. Arafat commanded four branches, and Abbas — as interior minister — had control over the other four.
why are there 8 security branches in a corrupt half-state with no army, navy, or air force? Arafat’s in charge? nevermind
The split paralyzed Abbas and made it impossible for him to take any action against the militants, even largely symbolic moves that might have been considered by Washington as partial implementation of the road map. Abbas, like other Palestinian officials, has said he would not confront the militants, for fear of sparking internal fighting.
And getting himself and his family killed...
Under the new arrangement, Arafat heads a 12-member national security council that will set policy and work with the interior minister. Yousef has worked with Arafat for nearly four decades. Several Arafat supporters, including Yasser Abed Rabbo and Saeb Erekat, were brought back into the Cabinet, after Abbas kept them out of his government. Two ministers with international support, Nabil Shaath and Salam Fayad, kept their jobs as foreign and finance ministers, respectively. Fatah named several younger leaders to the Cabinet. Several smaller factions were also represented, though major opposition groups, particularly the Islamic militant Hamas, stuck to their refusal to join the Palestinian Authority. Israel has said it would not deal with an Arafat-controlled Cabinet. However, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon said in an interview Friday with the Israeli daily Yediot Ahronot that Qurei will be judged on his deeds.
Which will be tentative, to say the least...
Though there was no claim of responsibility for Friday’s shooting in Negahot, Israeli government officials blamed the Palestinian Authority for not stopping such violence. "We have information that the Palestinian Authority has not been doing anything in the last few decades days to deter these terrorist organizations from carrying out their atrocities during the religious holidays," said Avi Pazner, an Israeli government spokesman.
Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2003 12:02:20 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6458 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Israel has not said when it would take action against the Palestinian leader, but it is believed the trigger could be a major Palestinian terror attack with many Israeli casualties

Any guesses on the magic number? 10? 15? 25 for sure.

BTW: Anyone here control a PA security force? Did you get it a Ebay?
Posted by: Shipman || 09/27/2003 12:54 Comments || Top||

#2  I think I got control of one in a box of Cracker Jacks. A guy I work with got one in a fortune cookie.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 09/27/2003 13:17 Comments || Top||

#3  I like their stupid names: "Force 17"??? what the hell is that from? a Telly Savalas war movie?
Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2003 14:54 Comments || Top||

Home Front
Woman who plotted to aid Taliban pleads guilty in court -Portland
October Lewis, one of seven Portland-area residents charged with conspiring to help al-Qaida and the Taliban fight U.S. forces in Afghanistan, pleaded guilty yesterday to money laundering. She will serve three years in a minimum- or medium-security federal prison. In exchange, she will testify against her former husband, Jeffrey Leon Battle, and another defendant. In addition, prosecutors dropped charges against her of conspiracy to levy war against the United States, to contribute services to al-Qaida and the Taliban and to provide material support and resources to al-Qaida. She could have faced life in prison if convicted on all counts.
Sure hope she's got some good testimony to trade...
Posted by: TS || 09/27/2003 11:29:31 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6460 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Prosecutors dropped conspiracy to levy war and other charges. I wonder if Lewis already have her burka packed? October Lewis? Nee what?

As someone observed earlier, they just keep pleading guilty out there. With all those plea bargains, the two who have elected to stand trial are going to have a tough row to hoe.
Posted by: Gasse Katze || 09/27/2003 12:28 Comments || Top||

Explosive lighters have been discovered in Grozny’s crowded places. Presumably, these lighters were stealthily spread by militants. According to Ruslan Atsayev in charge of the press service of the Chechen interior ministry, two devices of the kind have been found in the past 24 hours. In the Staropromyslovsky district, a serviceman picked up an abandoned lighter. When he tried to use it, the lighter exploded and stripped him of four fingers. A similar lighter was defused in the Leninsky district.
Posted by: TS || 09/27/2003 11:21:45 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6458 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Soviet consumer goods.
Posted by: Shipman || 09/27/2003 12:38 Comments || Top||

#2  I don't get it -- Bic has been making these things for years :-)
Posted by: snellenr || 09/27/2003 14:46 Comments || Top||

#3  Recall campaign in Chechnya? I do not think so...
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 09/27/2003 16:23 Comments || Top||

Today's down time...
Today's downtime is courtesy of hacker boy. It's been about three weeks since the last attack...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 09/27/2003 10:57 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6459 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Fred,you think,maybe,it might be steveboy?
Posted by: Raptor || 09/27/2003 11:05 Comments || Top||

#2  Somebody doesn't like Rantburg. We get hit at least once a week, usually on Friday nights.
Posted by: Fred || 09/27/2003 11:18 Comments || Top||

#3  not stevey...he hasn't mastered the use of capital letters yet
Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2003 11:45 Comments || Top||

#4  Friday nights? Someone all worked up after services, maybe?

Or just some drunken college loser?
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 09/27/2003 11:50 Comments || Top||

#5  Sorry to learn of your tribulations, Fred.
Two questions:
Did this start before or after September 11?
Do you have any buddies at the FBI?
If you could arrange for this villains arrest, we could have a lot to rant about.
Posted by: Gasse Katze || 09/27/2003 12:33 Comments || Top||

#6  We just got our own server in May. Within a week we had company. I've been tightening security bit by bit ever since - I'm not a network guy, so much of it's been learned on the fly.

One time actually connected while the guy was logged in. He was scanning IP addresses in Central Europe. A couple other times I kicked gamers out. This time there were six instances of Perl running, and I don't use Perl. I ran a virus scan, though, and couldn't find anything, so I shut Perl down.
Posted by: Fred || 09/27/2003 14:18 Comments || Top||

#7  Sound like a job for LIDS, Fred.
Posted by: mojo || 09/27/2003 17:27 Comments || Top||

#8  Oops... Never mind. Try eEye's SecureIIS instead.
Posted by: mojo || 09/27/2003 17:30 Comments || Top||

#9  One technique for learning is to install a sniffer (protocol analyzer). Configure it to ignore all legitimate Rantburg traffic, and see what other traffic you're getting.
It will tell you what attacks you're getting (complete with the details of the attack packets) and the source IP address.
Posted by: Dishman || 09/27/2003 18:25 Comments || Top||

#10  You find him, Fred, and I'll bring the thumb screws and the knuckle-busters.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 09/27/2003 22:57 Comments || Top||

Africa: North
Algerian troops kill 150 armed Islamists
Al-Watan daily reported 150 armed Islamists were killed and their bodies were burned inside caves during the past two weeks. During this campaign, the Algerian forces seized RPGs and machine guns. It added the army discovered hideouts and tunnels in which over 25 women lived in, including pregnant and children, where they were freed and taken to barracks and medical centers.
Ah! The old Islamic sex slave routine...
Posted by: TS || 09/27/2003 10:43:53 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6457 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Any kittens or baby ducks?
Posted by: CrazyFool || 09/27/2003 10:58 Comments || Top||

#2  Way to go. That's 150 of those f*ckers we don't have to worry about.
Posted by: badanov || 09/27/2003 11:43 Comments || Top||

#3  "smells like.......victory"
Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2003 11:44 Comments || Top||

North Korea Calls Rumsfeld Illiterate Psychopath
North Korea described Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld as a dictatorial psychopath and a politically illiterate old man for criticizing Pyongyang and predicting its system would collapse.
Illiterate psychopaths? Who would know better than KCNA? Must be true
Rumsfeld told U.S. and South Korean business leaders on Tuesday he had a night-time satellite picture of the divided peninsula in his office that showed the North almost entirely in darkness and the South aglow.
I’ve seen that too - there’s one bulb burning in the white slag factory
"While the situation in North Korea sometimes looks bleak, I’m convinced that one day freedom will come to the people and light up that oppressed land with hope and promise," he said in a speech mostly about the U.S.-South Korean military alliance. The response from the North’s official KCNA news agency was harsh even by its own rich rhetorical standards.
"His remarks only go to prove that he is just an old man politically illiterate as he cannot measure up the present reality when all the countries are promoting peaceful co-existence, reconciliation and cooperation irrespective of ideologies and beliefs," it said in a long commentary. "It is not likely at all that he would speak truth as he is obsessed with wantonly harassing peace and security in different parts of the world and igniting wars. His outbursts, therefore, cannot be construed otherwise than a desperate shrill cry of a psychopath on his death bed."

It said Rumsfeld was cursed and hated worldwide.
He is. But by whom, that's the question? Bad guys just can't stand him, can they? And the fools he can't suffer gladly — they think he's just 'orrid...
The North’s criticism echoed remarks it made about State Department official John Bolton in August. It called him "human scum" for describing North Korean leader Kim Jong-il as tyrannical dictator. KCNA said it was true North Korea had what it described as temporary economic difficulties but blamed the United States and said the communist country would emerge victorious. North Korea and the United States are at loggerheads over Pyongyang’s nuclear program. A first round of six-way talks with China, Japan, Russia and South Korea ended inconclusively in Beijing last month. Another round is unlikely before November.
harsh? that sounded like Rodong Sinmun on Prozac....I give it a 5.0...and that’s only for the "illiterate psychopath" and "wantonly harrassing peace"
Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2003 10:41:01 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6460 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ohhhh... Did little Kimmie-boy's feelngs get hurt by the big bad man? Ahhhhhh......

Looks like we struck a nerve!

I say "Pour it on!".
Posted by: CrazyFool || 09/27/2003 10:57 Comments || Top||

#2  (holds up card) 4.5. No Juche, Glorious Leader, Army-based policy, blah blah blah. Lacking in all areas, really.

Can you say 'projection'?
Posted by: Raj || 09/27/2003 11:04 Comments || Top||

#3  I give it a 6.0. I liked the "desperate shrill cry of a psychopath on his death bed" (or were they referring to the Dear Lunatic?). But Raj is right, no juche or army-first/songun policy references. These days they are just spewing venom, not that old-fashioned rhetoric! Get some new writers.
Posted by: Spot || 09/27/2003 12:37 Comments || Top||

#4  wantonly harassing peace

Ok peace give it up.

6.78 with extra points for shaky knees.
Posted by: Shipman || 09/27/2003 12:50 Comments || Top||

#5  Sounds like the North Koreans have picked up on the looney left's Rumsfeld phobia. Kinda like Al Queda threw a bone to the anti-globos in one of their communiques last year.
Posted by: g wiz || 09/27/2003 13:07 Comments || Top||

#6  G Wiz: It's only a matter of time before one of the 10 dwarves uses "Sea of Fire"
Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2003 13:11 Comments || Top||

#7  North Korea described Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld as a dictatorial psychopath..

Haaahahahahahahahaaaaa, this stuff is priceless...
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 09/27/2003 13:26 Comments || Top||

#8  4.5. Most of the same words can be found in writings of the West. The guy's a copy-cat. Needs to spend a few weeks in the white slag factory so he can be "re-educated".

North Korea is a territory devouring its children. Sooner or later, there's going to be a monumental collapse, one that will make the Russian collapse look like a tempest in a teapot. One good 8.0 earthquake in NKOR would kill 50,000 (human)rats living in tunnels beneath the DMZ, awaiting the "Great Leader's" orders to dash into the South and start buying!
Posted by: Old Patriot || 09/27/2003 13:27 Comments || Top||

#9  Here's the image if anyone hasn't seen it. The 38th Parallel forms a clear line across the Korean Peninsula with Seoul just below touching the western coast.

Posted by: Joe || 09/27/2003 13:49 Comments || Top||

#10  Illiterate psychopath? He was a Princeton Grad, honors student, fighter pilot...Of course, it seems so obvious that Milton Friedman's sidekick is illiterate. Can't these people read a CV?
Posted by: Anonymous || 09/27/2003 14:15 Comments || Top||

#11  The North Korean representative was also heard saying as he stepped away from the mic

"He big doo doo head too!"
Posted by: Paul || 09/27/2003 14:46 Comments || Top||

#12  "Illitterate psychopath", eh? Hmmm.....

Nah. Too easy.
Posted by: mojo || 09/27/2003 19:19 Comments || Top||

Middle East
Jordan Arrests Two Top Islamist Fugitives
Jordanian security forces on Saturday arrested two top fugitives, including a senior Islamist blamed for violent rioting last year in the southern city of Maan in which seven people were killed.
"Fresh truncheons and moustachios for our guests!"
Information Minister Nabil al-Sharif said security forces arrested firebrand Muslim preacher Mohamad Chalabi, also known as Abu Sayyaf, and Omar Ghazi al-Bazayaa. Both men were wanted for various security offences.
"They were arrested in the city of Mafraq...this morning. It was a clean and successful operation and no one was injured, yet" Sharif said. Abu Sayyaf, an alleged sympathizer of the militant al Qaeda network chief Osama bin Laden, had fled a hunt by authorities last year in the city of Maan searching for militants said to be linked to the murder of U.S. diplomat Laurence Foley in Amman last October. The attack was blamed on al Qaeda. Maan, the volatile desert city some 250 km (160 miles) south of the capital Amman, has witnessed bouts of civil unrest in the past decade over fuel price hikes and pro-Iraq protests.
Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2003 10:35:33 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6458 views] Top|| File under:

Darwin Award: Muslim Militant Killed Making Bomb
A Palestinian boom artist militant was killed when a bomb he was making blew up on Saturday as Israel maintained a high alert over a New Year holiday weekend coinciding with the third anniversary of a Palestinian uprising.
Red wire to Green...*BOOM*
An Israeli army spokeswoman said troops arrested four more alleged militants in overnight raids in the West Bank after a courageous warrior snuffy Palestinian gunman infiltrated a Jewish settlement and killed a seven-month-old girl and a man of 30 who opened the door to him.
Bulldoze his families’ house today... no waiting
The gunman, who was shot dead later, also wounded the baby’s mother and father in the assault inside the enclave of Negohot near Hebron on Friday night as Israelis sat down to festive family dinners marking Rosh Hashanah, or the Jewish New Year.
The baby was occupying Paleostinian land, of course. It takes a special kind of man to point a gun at a baby and pull the trigger...
Intractable violence has stymied a U.S.-backed "road map" peace plan and international mediators meeting in New York on Friday put the onus on Palestinians to revive the process by subduing militants hostile to co-existence with Israel. But the settlement attack could provoke a harsh response.
Yassin and Arafat? Please?
Ahmed Hassan, a member of the militant Islamic Jihad, died in Saturday’s blast in the Gaza town of Rafah when a bomb he was assembling or handling detonated prematurely. One other militant was wounded.
Israel clamped a general ban on Palestinian travel within and out of the West Bank and Gaza, except for humanitarian reasons, until Rosh Hashanah ends at sunset on Sunday. Hundreds of masked militants firing assault rifles in the air marched in the Gaza city of Khan Younis to mark the uprising anniversary, vowing to keep fighting Israel.
where’s an F16 with a 500lb bomb when you need one?
Some held up pictures of Palestinian President Yasser Arafat, whose mainstream Fatah national movement includes one of the three leading militant groups. Other demonstrators burned effigies of Fatah leaders involved in creating a new reform-oriented government led by a prime minister as called for by the U.S.-led "Quartet" of mediators.
I like it when that happens...
Israeli officials again blamed what they called the Palestinian Authority’s failure to crack down on militants for the settlement attack and the latest breakdown in peacemaking. Palestinian officials again blamed Israel’s continued pursuit of militants despite a unilateral truce they declared in June — and later canceled amid vows of vengeance.
"later cancelled"? Wasn’t there a bus boomed in there somewhere?...oh yasssss, it’s Rooters
Palestinian Prime Minister-designate Ahmed Qurei discussed a proposed cabinet with Fatah’s central committee in the West Bank city of Ramallah on Saturday and was likely to submit the list to parliament for approval in the coming week. Qurei’s predecessor Mahmoud Abbas, who had pledged to rein in militants and democratise governance to advance the peace plan, resigned after what he called obstruction by Arafat and military operations by Israel’s rightist government.
Posted by: Frank G || 09/27/2003 10:32:50 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6459 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Gotta love it when that happens. No 72 virgins, no video of a kid toting a Kalashnikov, and no Islamist; no use of ammo.
Posted by: badanov || 09/27/2003 12:09 Comments || Top||

#2  Before you get the "road map" you must master the "schematic."

Repeat after me: checking your blasting circuit with a flashlight bulb and battery is bad. Using low powered ohm meter is good.

Question, class: Does anyone know ohm's law. I know that he was an infidel, but let's put that aside for now. Well, you are right Ahmed, it is unislamic. Careless of me. OK, let's just get back to the red and green, shall we?

No Mamood, since you are colorblind, you can sit this one out. We will just have you wearing the belt when we are done.

OK class, let's get back on task.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 09/27/2003 17:39 Comments || Top||

#3  Does anyone know ohm's law

It's like Boils' Law... watt's pot never boyles.
Posted by: Shipman || 09/27/2003 19:49 Comments || Top||

#4  ...thinning the herd...
Posted by: Hyper || 09/27/2003 19:58 Comments || Top||

#5  Shipman, you crack me up!
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 09/27/2003 20:29 Comments || Top||

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US Air Force B-2 Bomber Drops 80 JDAMS in Historic Test
From Space Daily; EFL
Boeing and the U.S. Air Force successfully completed their first 80 guided weapon flight test demonstration of the MK-82 500-pound Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM). The drop took place from a B-2A bomber on September 10 at the Utah Test & Training Range, Hill Air Force Base, Utah. The B-2A aircraft, based at Edwards AFB, Calif., flew to the test site and released the 80 weapons in a single 22-second pass. The weapons were released from four Boeing-designed and built "smart" bomb racks, flew their planned flight paths and attacked all 80 targets. "Placing maximum steel on the target is what we get paid to do as Air Force bomber pilots and that happened today in a big way," said Major William Power, 419th Flight Test Squadron B-2A project pilot. "Dropping 80 JDAM MK-82s in less than 30 seconds, with each attacking their own individual targets, is truly revolutionary."
Posted by: Mike || 09/27/2003 6:36:12 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6460 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Wow--gone are the days when the ratio was 80 planes (at least) to 1 target! Incredible.
Posted by: Dar || 09/27/2003 9:07 Comments || Top||

#2  If you fit the same rack on a radio controlled blimp the size of a good year blimp, you would have immediate death waiting overhead with unlimited time on station. Add a few IR cameras and you get surveilence to boot.
Posted by: Super Hose || 09/27/2003 10:34 Comments || Top||

#3  don't think a blimp would last very long over a target area
Posted by: Anonymous || 09/27/2003 10:58 Comments || Top||

#4  The blimp shall be painted in a soft fluffy white pattern - thus avoiding detection.
Posted by: Super Hose || 09/27/2003 11:18 Comments || Top||

#5  A blimp @ 15 or 20,000 feet would be essentially invulnerable to the sorts of non-flying pests we're fighting today. Paint it the same smoke-gray/blue that is used in our current camo scheme (active camo would be even better -- keep working on it, DARPA).

We ought to build at least one ULA , codename "Fluffy", and park it somewhere over the Pakistan-Afghanistan border.
Posted by: snellenr || 09/27/2003 11:53 Comments || Top||

#6  I know one of the project managers for the JDAM program. He indicated that JDAM guidance systems were being applied to smalled bombs (i.e. 250 pounds), which means that 80 targets could just be a htreshhold and we might be looking at even more bombs on target in a single pass. The reason for the smaller bombs is the proven precision of the JDAM system.
Posted by: Douglas De Bono || 09/27/2003 12:12 Comments || Top||

#7  That's the Small Diameter Bomb (SDB) project. I believe they are for use on fighter bombers like the F-22 and F-16, but you could pack well over 100 in a big bomber.
Posted by: Steve || 09/27/2003 12:21 Comments || Top||

#8  A blimp @ 15 or 20,000 feet would be essentially invulnerable to the sorts of non-flying pests we're fighting today

It would be the same old arms race. Soon the Russians would have a blimp with a 60 foot carbon fibre needle on the nose. RAMMING SPEED!
Posted by: Shipman || 09/27/2003 12:42 Comments || Top||

#9  Talk about shock and awe. Gomer would be saying gollollee for a week.
Good post. Thanks DAR.
Posted by: Gasse Katze || 09/27/2003 13:18 Comments || Top||

#10  He indicated that JDAM guidance systems were being applied to smalled bombs (i.e. 250 pounds), which means that 80 targets could just be a htreshhold and we might be looking at even more bombs on target in a single pass.

Wow, think of the possibilities - Smart carpet bombing.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 09/27/2003 13:29 Comments || Top||

#11  I guess that would be "throw-rug bombing" eh, Bomb-a-rama?
Posted by: Scooter McGruder || 09/27/2003 14:16 Comments || Top||

#12  Pretty awesome concept. Too bad they can't burrow 1,000 meters into solid rock.

But come on, don't fool yourselves. The enemy would just start draping school children over their armored vehicles and weapons systems.

The international community's deafening silence over that tactic would only turn into a deafening roar when we destroyed them.

Hell, any enemy we face could fling Flaming Nuns (TM) at our forces and we'd still be the bad guys for not catching them (softly) and putting them out in time to save their lives.

I do like the blimp idea. I think adorning it with Koran's, Allah's name, and claiming it on the muslim list of holy places # 6,894,323 right after that Dairy Queen on 5th and Main in Riyadh may do the trick. We could rig the Koran's with grenades so when the JDAM's are gone we can drop them like "Holy Hand Grenades" (TM).
Posted by: Paul || 09/27/2003 14:16 Comments || Top||

#13  Re: JDAM guidance systems... didn't they put some guidance stuff on concrete-filled cases during GWII? Thought they were using those in Baghdad to take out some stationary targets.

If nothing else, one of these through the roof would certainly send a clear message... might even be fun to drop one or two into the middle of one of the Palestinian Marching Society's many get-togethers... and if you hit someone, put out a press release that basically says "That's the guy we were aiming at..." It might shut Rantisi up, at any rate...
Posted by: snellenr || 09/27/2003 14:52 Comments || Top||

#14  While patrolling the Iraqi No-Fly zones:
"I can't use a 500-pound, high-explosive bomb against a missile launcher if it's parked within X-thousand feet of any civilian facility. But if I've got good enough precision, and I can hit it with 500 pounds of concrete, that does the trick. So we began doing that," [Major General David] Deptula said.
Posted by: Dar || 09/27/2003 15:05 Comments || Top||

#15  The drop took place from a B-2A bomber on September 10 at the Utah Test & Training Range, Hill Air Force Base, Utah.

What about our test and training range in downtown Tikrit?
Posted by: Steve White || 09/27/2003 16:48 Comments || Top||

#16  Let's see....B2 carries 80... hmmm... in a low threat environment a B-52G could carry what - 200?As far as concrete bombs... ice is better. No evidence.
Posted by: Shipman || 09/27/2003 18:26 Comments || Top||

#17  Ship - G model can only carry 86 500lb weapons. The old "D" model held the record for ordinance: 106 750lb "dumb" bombs. Could also load up with 58 2000lb weapons, for a harder-hitting attack. Just load 'em all up: B-52, B-1, B-2, and the remaining F-111B's in the inventory. Of course, you don't do squat without good intel...
Posted by: Old Patriot || 09/27/2003 23:15 Comments || Top||

Middle East
Where Is Maj. Thorn?
THE ship carrying 54,000 Australian sheep pulled anchor and began heading for Iraq yesterday. But the Federal Government still has to get the permission of the US Army to dock in the southern port of Basra. The sheep are expected to arrive tomorrow afternoon. As revealed by the Herald Sun, Cabinet this week nominated Iraq as the best destination for the MV Cormo Express, which has been stranded in the Middle East since Saudi Arabia rejected its cargo five weeks ago.

But there are still obstacles to be overcome. A US Army official in Iraq, dubbed Sergeant Bilko for his love of kickbacks, has warned Australia he will not allow the MV Cormo Express to dock without payment. Australian livestock traders have spoken to the staff sergeant by phone and named him after the bungling Sergeant Bilko, played by Steve Martin in the 1996 film of the same name, in which the main character spends his days on the base playing poker. The middle-ranking officer controls all supplies moving in and out of the war-torn country. "This guy just runs everything and he’s told us the ship has no chance of docking without his say-so," one livestock trader said.
Interesting story. False, but interesting. That kind of operation would last a month, at the outside, and Sergeant Bilko would find himself NCOIC of toilet facilities in Anchorage.
Government sources denied a newspaper report claiming meat-eaters could be hit with a levy to cover the losses, but confirmed the Commonwealth might buy back the sheep from their Saudi owner so they could be given to Iraq. Fearing a situation where future shipments could be turned away, the Government is considering asking exporters to contribute to a self-regulation fund. Under such a plan, exporters could draw on a pool of money if their trade negotiations fell through.

Saudi Arabia rejected the Cormo Express, claiming vets had found a high incidence of a skin condition known as scabby mouth. The Opposition yesterday backed the plan to buy back the sheep and give them to Iraq. "If you can cut a deal whereby they can be purchased back by the original Australian owners and given to the Iraqi people as part of food sustenance leading into the colder parts of the year and Ramadan, then why not?" shadow foreign affairs minister Kevin Rudd said.

Animal rights activists claimed the sheep would not be better off in Iraq. "Iraq has been in a state of disarray since the war," said Glenys Oogjes, executive director of Animals Australia. "If this gift of live animals goes ahead, the Australian public will demand an assurance that these animals be supervised by Australian authorities until enduring slaughter."
Posted by: tipper || 09/27/2003 1:11:41 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6458 views] Top|| File under:

#1  As a US citizen, taxpayer & the wife of a retired US military officer, I was more than a little upset at this article. Either the Aussies involved need to report the "middle-ranking officer" for corruption or they need to publicly disavow this accusation. As in, immediately.
Posted by: rkb || 09/27/2003 1:20 Comments || Top||

#2  rkb: The Herald sun is a rag. About as reliable as the National Equirer.

ps, I have recently moved to Melbourne and the Herald Sun is not worth the effort of picking up never mind reading.
Posted by: Phil_B || 09/27/2003 4:34 Comments || Top||

#3  What a load!
What do you want to bet Murat swallows the whole bucket full?
Posted by: Raptor || 09/27/2003 10:42 Comments || Top||

#4  rkb
My sentiments exactly. As Australia is a member of the Coalition of the Willing, this is the sort of thing that could sour relations between the two countries.

Can't agree with you.
Sure the newspaper is lightweight, but it's not as loony left as the other papers, such as The Age.
Have you read their columnist, Andrew Bolt?
About as good as they come.
Posted by: tipper. || 09/27/2003 11:17 Comments || Top||

#5  They should either name the guy or admit they made it up.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 09/27/2003 11:55 Comments || Top||

#6  Animal rights activists claimed the sheep would not be better off in Iraq.

They will not be loved as they would have been in Soddy Arabia.
Posted by: Shipman || 09/27/2003 12:58 Comments || Top||

#7  Wherever they end up (the sheep, not the Aussies), somebody's gonna cut their widdle thwoats. Better to let them die of thirst at sea, say the loons.
Posted by: mojo || 09/27/2003 13:34 Comments || Top||

#8  tipper >> Al lost the election. Get over it and go back to drinking your Thunderbird.

Posted by: Paul || 09/27/2003 15:14 Comments || Top||

#9  Thank you, Shipman, for that beautiful image.
Posted by: Mr. J || 09/27/2003 16:43 Comments || Top||

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