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-Short Attention Span Theater-
Naked "Bambi" hunts a hoax
An offer to let men with paintball guns hunt naked women in the Nevada desert was a hoax intended to sell videos, Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Goodman has said.
YES! I called it when this story broke.
City prosecutors charged promoter Michael Burdick with a violation of municipal code and said an investigation showed the company had not conducted such "Bambi hunts," contrary to its earlier claims, Goodman said in a statement. Women’s groups and even paintball equipment makers were up in arms after Burdick announced plans to offer a new type of adult entertainment -- stalking women who wore only sneakers in the Nevada desert using paintball guns. Burdick’s Real Men Outdoor Productions, Inc. also offered a $20 "Hunting for Bambi" video.
Viral marketing at work.
Burdick was not immediately available for comment and a spokesman for Las Vegas television station KLAS, which originally aired a video of a "hunt," declined to comment.
Real Men later said that its own video had been staged but maintained it had hosted 18 "Bambi" hunts. Las Vegas investigators had determined that was not true, Goodman’s spokeswoman Elaine Sanchez said. "No one has ever really purchased a hunt for Bambi," she said. Burdick faces a fine of up to $1,000 (700 pounds) and six months in jail when he appears in court on August 28 charged with operating a business without a license.
"We have jail space and judges who take this type of conduct seriously in the city of Las Vegas," said Goodman, a flamboyant former lawyer who made his name defending some of organised crime’s most notorious figures.
In order to keep the tourists safe and happy, Las Vegas comes down hard on anyone who breaks the law. Having dragged the good name of Vegas through the mud with this con, these guys are going to get the maximun possible punishment the DA can think up.
Posted by: Steve || 07/26/2003 1:19:02 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [348 views] Top|| File under:

Mussolini "Dead"
Lampoon of the Beeb. Hat tip LGF
Good evening. Reports that the former Italian leader Benito Mussolini is "dead" and "hanging" "upside down" at a petrol station were received with scepticism in Rome today. Our "reporter" - whoops, scrub the inverted commas round "reporter", the scare-quotes key on the typewriter’s jammed again. Anyway our reporter Andrew "Gilligan" is "on" the scene "in" Milan. Andrew...

and the Nazis are "losing."
Andrew Gilligan: I’m leaning on a lamp post at the corner of the street in case a certain little duce swings by, and I don’t see any dead dictators, John. But then the Allies have a history of making these premature announcements...

He’s just above your head, Andrew. I know you don’t like to do wide shots, but, if the camera pulls back, I think you’ll find that’s definitely a finger tickling the back of your ear...

AG: Well, there you are. He’s not hanging from a petrol station, is he? He’s hanging from a rope attached to a girder on the forecourt of a petrol station. We’ve become all too familiar with the Allies playing fast and loose with the facts.

Yes, indeed, Andrew. And contradictory reports that he was hanging from a lamp-post have led some observers to question the accuracy of the intelligence on which the "liberation" of Milan went ahead.
That’s it! FDR lied!
AG: That’s very true, John. Senior figures in Downing Street are said to have demanded the whole story be "sexed up" by inserting a glamorous mistress, preferably knickerless. Hang on, I’ve been plunged into total darkness. Must be another power failure caused by inept Allied administration.

I think that’s a skirt that’s just fallen over your head. And what about those crowds behind you dancing the tarantella, singing "Funiculi, Funicula", and so forth?

AG: Well, John, it’s yet another protest at the deteriorating security situation. As you can see, people are very worked up. Many haven’t been paid in days. My own translator says it’s over a week since his last cheque from the National Fascist Party Propaganda Office.

Thank you, Andrew. Joining us now is Harold Pinter. What do you think when you see these bodies hanging outside a petrol station?

Harold Pinter: No blood for oil, chum. Isn’t that what they told us? Ha-bloody-ha.

Yet more spin, Robert Fisk? Or is that really him on that girder?

Robert Fisk: I doubt it. Gerda is more of a German name, and I can’t see him with a German mistress. And if he had one, he wouldn’t take her to a petrol station. A railway station, maybe. The Mussolini I know - the Mussolini who says, "Mister Robert, if only more Englishmen could make linguini as good as yours" - has a full head of hair, like Harpo Marx. But, if he is dead, then following the disastrous setback of D-Day, this is just more bad news for the Allies.

Thanks, Robert. Meanwhile, international aid organisations continue to express concern about Italy’s worsening humanitarian catastrophe. Joining us now are Jonathan Steele of the Guardian and Will Day of CARE International. Mr Day, you recently wrote in The Daily Telegraph that Italy is "on its knees"...

Will Day: Absolutely. The Allies have been in Milan several hours, and there’s still a total lack of basic services. I was just in the Piazzale Loreto and I was staggered by the chaotic queues outside the petrol station there.

Jonathan Steele: That’s right, Will. Many are upset at the damage that’s being done to Milan’s infrastructure by random dangling. Does the coalition seriously expect us to believe it can invade an entire continent but it’s powerless to prevent an outbreak of girder dangling?

Thank you, gentlemen. Meanwhile, the turbulent region’s only independent TV network, al-Dente, reported that most Italians refuse to believe that the former duce is really dead. Joining me now are French intellectual theorist Michel Foucault and the leading Italian fundamentalist cleric, Pastor Al Forno, a vocal critic of the Allied administration.

Pastor Al Forno: This is yet more Hollywood-style trickery from the Americans. In the bars of Rome they are certain that this is a doctored still from Esther Williams’s aquatic ballet in Million-Dollar Mermaid, with Esther and the girls diving off the boards retouched to look like hanging fascists. If you look closely, you can see the outlines of the swimsuits under the blackshirts. And the cheering Italian peasants in the background are Victor Mature and Walter Pidgeon. This propaganda is so crude it’s laughable.

But it’s 1945 and Million-Dollar Mermaid won’t be made till 1952. Isn’t that the case, Professor Foucault?

Michel Foucault: Ah, mon cher BBC ami, the very concept of time is a social construct intended to produce effects of reality within a false chronological discourse. For all we know, Mademoiselle Williams’s movie may already be in development at MGM.

Thank you, M le Professeur. As the situation in post-war Europe deteriorates, a new poll shows that 20 per cent of Germans believe the British were behind the invasion of Poland.
Posted by: Tangara || 07/26/2003 12:42:35 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [342 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sorry, could someone please delete the other post? This double-post must be harder to wrap fence around.
Posted by: Tangara || 07/26/2003 12:50 Comments || Top||

Villagers feared US wrath
KABUL: Villagers in southern Afghanistan hid their Qurans and other religious items because they were afraid US soldiers would kill them if they discovered they were Muslim, a US military spokesman said yesterday. "The village of Atel Mohammed removed all of their religious items, including the Quran, from the village before Special Operations Forces and the Afghan military force arrived," Col. Rodney Davis said in a statement issued from Bagram. "When Special Operations Forces found the items in a flour sack in a nearby dry creek bed during the search they proceeded to return it to the village elder," Davis said.
That was nice of them...
But the US troops wanted to know why the religious items had been collected and hidden. "The elder stated that some of the villagers felt that the Americans would kill them for being Muslims and these religious items were proof of their faith," Davis said.
Ummm... Mahmoud? Isn't everybody in Afghanistan a Muslim? Except for most of us, of course...
The soldiers sought to dispel their concerns, he said. "Special Operations Forces explained in depth that this was not the case. The villagers secured the items and returned them to their homes," Davis said.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 07/26/2003 00:28 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [457 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The Religion of Peace™ should be renamed the Mother of All Disinformation™. This is classic Islam - the word is passed along (Islam has one helluva grapevine, eh?) from some frothing Imam (doesn't matter where) in his Friday Diatribe™ that America is bent on killing all Muslims - and in some extremely remote little village in a vast rock garden the local mullah gets the word - and swallows it whole.

Poor saps. It actually makes me feel sorry for them - and that took some doing.
Posted by: PD || 07/26/2003 1:02 Comments || Top||

#2  It's not without precedent in a budding democracy.

Supporters of John Adams spread word that the notorious 'free thinker' Thomas Jefferson would ban Bibles during the Election of 1796 and many New Englanders buried their Bibles 'just in case' Jefferson won.
Posted by: JDB || 07/26/2003 1:18 Comments || Top||

#3  Ah, religion. The ultimate bastion of deep thought.
Posted by: PD || 07/26/2003 1:26 Comments || Top||

Poor saps. It actually makes me feel sorry for them - and that took some doing.

It's hard to NOT pity slaves. Be they intellectual, religious or physical.
Posted by: Celissa || 07/26/2003 2:19 Comments || Top||

#5  But the best way to counter it is exactly what the soldiers did. Hand them back, explain in depth that such was not the case. Makes that old Iman look like a liar and a fool, our soldiers look like decent folks.
Posted by: Ben || 07/26/2003 4:28 Comments || Top||

#6  JDB:

Interesting about Adams/Jefferson. Got a specific reference on that? I'd like to read about it.
Posted by: Whiskey Mike || 07/26/2003 5:59 Comments || Top||

#7  From such acts, trust and understanding arise. Until next Friday, anyway.
Posted by: PD || 07/26/2003 6:02 Comments || Top||

#8  Maybe even beyond next Friday. Happens once, twice, and by the third time people will get the idea that someone is not telling the truth.
Posted by: Rafael || 07/26/2003 7:25 Comments || Top||

#9  Rafael - Maybe... 'slam has been humming along for 1400 years without a shred of proof that it makes any sense whatsoever or contains even one iota of truth. These guys have been indoctinated from birth. Everyone they know and have ever known buys it - and there are consequences in Islam for having doubts. You have to be contemplating a long lonely one-way trip to get out.

Still, I hope you're right: that they'll believe their own eyes and ears and experience the next time they encounter a "non-believer."

Y'know, the Soviets sure didn't help.
Posted by: PD || 07/26/2003 9:02 Comments || Top||

#10  PD> I don't think that religions are very much into things like "proof". They use blind faith instead -- and that goes for pretty much every religion. Once upon a time there were pretty big consequences for doubting Christianity also (e.g. you could be burned for heresy).

So, yeah, Islam's been humming along 1400 years without a shred of proof that it makes any sense, but then again Christianity's been humming along for 2000 years and it doesn't make any shred of sense either (God being punished somehow alleviates the sins of the world? Eating a piece of fruit condemns the descendants of those who ate it? Having an infant's parents arrange to have water sprinkled on you somehow ensures that it will go to heaven, but if they don't do that, the outcome is uncertain?)

To tell the truth, in the relatively little I know of Islam I can also find fewer absurdities in it. Mind you there's the occasional greater *evil* as well, but atleast it's reasonably expected evil coming from a military-religious leader, Muhammed, determined to spread his power and influence and "divine word" throughout the world... Seen as nothing more than an attempt to concentrate power (to a single gender, to a single religious group), Islam seems to make sense... Women subordinated to men. Everyone else subordinated to muslims. Some shreds of tolerance towards the "peoples of the Book" which we may want to occasionally be friendly to, for tactical purposes. And all muslims subordinated to clerics, who are ofcourse subordinated to the word of the Koran (aka Muhammad).

But some of the things that the Christians believe in... schizophrenia seems to be the only explanation. Or at least a mad attempt to combine more than one thousands years of Hebrew Scripture+New Testament teaching into a single consistent philosophy, which however doesn't make much sense either... If it *had* made sense there wouldn't be a thousand different Christian denominations, I think.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 07/26/2003 11:15 Comments || Top||

#11  Aris - You won't get a defense of any religion from me - and I'll leave it at that.

One thing I have noticed, however, is that there is a total lack of "elegance" in Islam - a matter of opinion, of course. What I mean is that there are hundred of suras / hadiths / yadda3 and it's all very petty and pedantic. Do this and you burn. Do that and you burn. Don't do this, on Friday, under a fool moon, while the cock crows, and you burn. Pretty silly shit.

The Christians did, at least, have a more manageable number (though Mel Brooks implied there were 15 Commandments, but one of the tablets was dropped and, well...) of rules and a few of their truisms are actually profound, such as the "Do unto others..."

I might finish that saying, myself, with "first and often...", but the original has the ring of truth - so I'll give credit where due. I'm still looking for something in Islam's game worth remembering - and I have read the Koran I bought in SA back in '92 all the boring way through.

As for the idea of schizophrenia and flavors of religion - hey, that's rampant in ALL of the religions that have been around more than about 30 minutes. Islam tried to stop this with a standardization of Islamic text, the usual post-dated revisionist "cleaning" of history", of course - so their flavors are in interpretation, once you get past that massive split down the middle between Shi'a and Sunni.

Isn't religion, Peshawar, the answer for those fearful of death? Just a thought.
Posted by: PD || 07/26/2003 11:56 Comments || Top||

#12  The greatest gift from God (if there is a God) is that you can talk to God. Of course you could deny it and not talk to God. Your choice. You can't kill for God, talk for God, think for God. You can't do anything for God. But you can talk to God. The Bible is full of prayers to God. It's overriding theme, to me, is to have that relationship with God. I reject Islam outright due to it's submission qualities. And I wouldn't drink grape cool-aid for some learned christian or whatever.
Posted by: Lucky || 07/26/2003 12:16 Comments || Top||

#13  PD---thanks for pointing it out!

Islam's answer to MOAB:

MOAD---Mother of All Disinformation™

Posted by: Alaska Paul || 07/26/2003 12:29 Comments || Top||

#14  Criticize religion all you want but it works for me. Belief in a higher power and answered prayer has carried me through combat, divorce, death of loved ones, loss of employment and a long and painful cancer treatment for my darling wife.

Throughout history, man has believed in a higher power. When religions become organized and codified, things muddle, the religious heirarchies seem to forget they are in the religion business of love, faith, peace and understanding and try to ram their faith down peoples throats.

It defies logic that the three major religions share supposedly, a common base, a common God, the same religious shrines and much of the same religious texts and teachings and yet one of them wants to wipe the other two off the planet and the other two at one time or another has tried to return the favor.

My life has become happier and richer with more fullness and meaning when I chose to believe in God and recognized that Jesus Christ was the messiah and my saviour. I recommend it highly as a cure for the empty, "is that all there is" feeling that people who do not have faith have.

You can debate, ridicule and otherwise try to debase my faith and the tenents of my religion but you will not succeed....nothing man does ever really makes sense and God did give us Free Will.
Posted by: SOG475 || 07/26/2003 12:51 Comments || Top||

#15  Believing in God, or not, is a personal thing and thats the end of story. Problems develop when one guy says "I'm right and you're wrong" and then shoves an AK47 up your ass to make his point.
A point to ponder however is this: if you make jokes about Jesus in front of some Catholics in the middle of St. Peter's square in the Vatican, the worst that would happen is they would roll their eyes and gently move away from you. If you make fun of Mohammed in downtown Mecca (assuming for the moment you're allowed inside) in front of some Muslims, what do you think would happen to you? (assuming for the moment you live long enough to find out).
Posted by: Rafael || 07/26/2003 13:25 Comments || Top||

#16  SOG475 - I don't believe, but that's me. Its my conclusion - and don't mean nuthin to nobody but me.

I have 3 rules about "beliefs" for others:
1) The belief system should bring peace of mind - not incite and use that anger for its own ends
2) Believers shouldn't impose their beliefs on anyone else - including their children
3) Believers shouldn't harm anyone else in the practice of their religion

That's it. So from the hundreds of Islam to 10+ on Christianity down to 3, for me. I have a number of tougher requirements I place upon myself, (e.g. be an asset, or be gone; keep your word or keep your mouth shut, etc.) but this is all I have ever asked of others.
Posted by: PD || 07/26/2003 13:42 Comments || Top||

#17  To tell the truth, in the relatively little I know of Islam I can also find fewer absurdities in it.

Aris likes Islam because it's internally consistent. Nazism and Communism were internally consistent, too. Wipe out all the racially-impure/non-believers and establish paradise on earth. Typical of Aris's murderous proclivities - he doesn't have any problem with killing - he just doesn't like it when either Christians or Jews are winning.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 07/26/2003 13:44 Comments || Top||

#18  Rafael> True, but that wasn't always the case - I wouldn't feel free of making of fun of Jesus during the time of the Spanish Inquisition.

Zhang Fei> How cute of you to YET AGAIN pull supposed comments of mine out your big fat ass. I now supposedly "like Islam"?

Moron. Asshole. Fucking jerk. Is it when I called it a military-religious tool for subordinating the world to a single man's whims, that your puny brain translated it into "I like Islam"?

But I guess that religious freaks like yourself don't actually care for facts.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 07/26/2003 14:20 Comments || Top||

#19  Might I step in and suggest a cease-fire on personal attacks?
Posted by: Frank G || 07/26/2003 16:04 Comments || Top||

#20  I will not speak about (or to) Zhang Fei, in any manner whatsoever, in any thread where he hasn't *first* spoken about (or to) me with his lying mouth.

I think that's a good enough ceasefire, if Zhang Fei will accept it. It'll make him the instigator in any other dispute that will arise between us.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 07/26/2003 16:38 Comments || Top||

#21  I doubt any here would wish to be placed into a position of having to defend their beliefs, whatever they are. We become defensive, and in most cases, beligerant. The problem is, ONE religion demands that we accept it by decree, not by any personal experience or belief. None of the world's major religions, other than Islam, demand belief. That makes it a totalitarian dictatorship dressed up as a religion, and it needs to be faced down and, if necessary, even destroyed. This is not just a war on terrorism - this is a war on whether mankind has free will (the ability to choose what we think, what we believe, how we worship, how we choose to govern ourselves, who we work for, etc.) or is the slave of God (in whatever form he/she/it takes to the believer). Islam insists upon the latter. I will NEVER willingly be a slave.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 07/26/2003 17:18 Comments || Top||

#22  Not sure how you claim that none of the world's major religions (other than Islam) demand belief, when most Christian sects say that you'll burn in hell if you don't believe. Perhaps you mean that most of those religions don't have anymore the secular power to force us to believe -- in which case I'll respond that it wasn't so long ago that they did have that power. How many non-Christians do you think could worship freely and publicly in the medieval ages?

As for being a "slave of god", you do understand hopefully, that this is the expression Paul repeatedly uses in his letters and stuff to describe himself and all other Christians, don't you? Of course most English translations repeatedly sugarcoat this into a *servant* of God, but the original Greek word is very clear: "doulos", meaning "slave".

Indeed in the Greek Orthodox Church the word is repeatedly used - even in wedding ceremonies e.g. "O doulos tou Theou [insert name] nymfevetai tin douli tou Theou [insert name]." : The (male) Slave of God [insert name] is being married to the (female) Slave of God [insert name].

Never willingly be a slave -- aye, I'd agree with that. But if so, I think Christianity is probably not that good for you either... To be a good Christian you must be a willing slave of God's will.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 07/26/2003 18:15 Comments || Top||

#23  Aris - promise of "burning in hell" have little effect on non-believers, hacking/exploding/bullets in the current "veil of tears" matter to most of the living, and especially those of us Kaffirs. I am sorry for what my Catholic religion has done wrong and promise my strongest efforts to reform those wrongs - I cannot undo what was done in the past, and surely promote punishment (especially in this life - I have no doubts what awaits after) of the clergy who have caused so much harm - but the Islamic faith does not have such a sense of wroooong, apparently. How to convey that? I don't know
Posted by: Frank G || 07/26/2003 18:49 Comments || Top||

#24  Whiskey Mike--

I tried "googling" for some anecdotes of anti-Jeffersonism and there's just too much stuff!

One piece you might enjoy was from The Atlantic and is a reprint of an 1873 article on the Election of 1800. The author is sympathetic to Jefferson as he recounts Federalist charges (e.g. Sally Hemmings, the abolition of Christianity, etc.)


Here's an excerpt:

"Tradition reports, that when the news of his election reached New England, some old ladies, in wild consternation, hung their Bibles down the well in the butter-cooler."

I read (somewhere!) of New Englanders hiding Bibles as fact. Oh, well.

Anyway, as SecDef Rumsfeld pointed out in his remarks around July 4th, giving birth to democracy is not without it's labor pains. The Election of 1800 is a fascinating period. Hope you like the article.
Posted by: JDB || 07/26/2003 20:39 Comments || Top||

#25  Islam is NOT internally consistent.

eg: Mohammed's early teachings were more peaceful, and about spreading religion by persuasion.

His latter teachings were about spreading it by the sword, by jihad, by submission.

It is reconciled by some muslim thought as: The later teachings are newer, therefore they override the earlier teachings as newer versions are always better and revised.

Though why an omnipotent god should ever need to make his prophet revise his work (implying error) I do not think they ask themselves.
Posted by: Anon1 || 07/26/2003 22:11 Comments || Top||

#26  Islam is NOT internally consistent.

eg: Mohammed's early teachings were more peaceful, and about spreading religion by persuasion.

His latter teachings were about spreading it by the sword, by jihad, by submission.

It is reconciled by some muslim thought as: The later teachings are newer, therefore they override the earlier teachings as newer versions are always better and revised.

Though why an omnipotent god should ever need to make his prophet revise his work (implying error) I do not think they ask themselves.
Posted by: Anon1 || 07/26/2003 22:16 Comments || Top||

Zakayev’s defence delivers unexpected blow
A key witness for the prosecution has publicly recanted his early evidence against Chechen envoy Akhmed Zakayev, whose extradition case is currently being examined by Bow Street magistrates’ court in London. The former chief of Zakayev’s bodyguards told the court Russian secret services had forced him to give false evidence after weeks of threats and torture. The testimony shocked not only the judge and the British public opinion, but also the prosecutors who have asked for adjournment before cross-examination, for the witness had been produced without warning. The Prosecutor General’s Office in Moscow refused to comment on the scandal.
He was either tortured and/or intimidated into giving testimony against Zakaev by the Russers, or the Chechens have gotten to him and intimidated him into retracting his statement. Pick one.
On Thursday the Bow Street magistrates’ court in London was to hear testimonies of witnesses summoned by the prosecution. In particular, the court planned to question the federal minister for Chechnya Stanislav Ilyasov and the Chechen envoy to the Federation Council (the upper house of Russian parliament) Akhmar Zavgayev. However, in a dramatic last-minute move, the defence asked the court to urgently give floor to one of the key witnesses for the prosecution, introduced as Duk-Vakha Dashuyev. Dashuyev back in December 2002 signed the affidavit, in which he claimed that one of Zakayev’s bodyguards had confessed to him that it was Zakayev himself who ordered him to kidnap two Orthodox priests in 1995. Gazeta.Ru wrote earlier that one of the main charges preferred against Aslan Maskhadov’s aide by Russia was masterminding the abduction of Rev. Philippe (Sergei Zhigulin) and Rev. Anatoly (Chistousov), who had arrived in Chechnya to negotiate release of Russian soldiers from Chechen captivity. Speaking in the London court on Thursday, Duk-Vakha Dashuyev said that the Russian secret services had used threats and violence and finally forced him to give false evidence against Zakayev.
Could be, I suppose. But I also wonder what visitors he's had from the Olde Countrie lately...
Dashuyev recounted that he was detained by Russian special force on November 27, 2002 and brought to the Khankala military base. There he was thrown in a pit, and for several days security officers tortured him with electric shock, forcing him to testify against Zakayev. Dashuyev said he had lasted six days and eventually agreed.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 07/26/2003 00:36 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [462 views] Top|| File under:

#1  He was either tortured and/or intimidated into giving testimony against Zakaev by the Russers

We really don't know the Chechens all that well. But the Russians are a known quantity - they deposited toy-like mines in Afghanistan to maim Afghan children. People who are capable of that magnitude of evil are capable of anything. Bush's intuition notwithstanding, the Russians are a bunch of ruthless thugs.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 07/26/2003 10:54 Comments || Top||

#2  On the mine thing - everytime I hear something like that from a muslim country I automatically round file it. They have zero credibility.

Why spend money destroying non military targets (kids) and alienating your support? Sounds very bogus to me.

Posted by: flash91 || 07/26/2003 11:14 Comments || Top||

#3  It's not entirely bullshit, Flash. I've seen the items in question. As for "why alienate..."?

At that time, the Soviet government was using the "nits" theory. That is, "nits grow up to become lice." You can't become a terrorist if you die before you grow up, eh what?

A significant minority in the Soviet Union really wanted to "ethnically cleanse" Afghanistan, then resettle it with Russians. It's something of an obsession with them, really.. they've wanted to expand to the south (and gain a warm water port that can't closed by a choke point) since the days of the Czars.

Posted by: Ed Becerra || 07/26/2003 13:01 Comments || Top||

#4  Why spend money destroying non military targets (kids) and alienating your support? Sounds very bogus to me.

You're thinking of this in the American way - pacify the country and leave. The Russians think in terms of expelling the natives to neighboring countries and populating the land with Russians. This is pretty much what the Chinese are doing in East Turkistan (Xinjiang), which is almost 25% of China's total land area. From an ethnic cleansing perspective, killing kids is no different from killing insect larvae.

It's something of an obsession with them, really.. they've wanted to expand to the south (and gain a warm water port that can't closed by a choke point) since the days of the Czars.

That was the whole point of the Great Game - the competition between the British and Russian Empires for South Asia. That was why the British got involved in Afghanistan, godforsaken wasteland though it is - to prevent the Russians from threatening the Jewel of the Crown, India.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 07/26/2003 15:26 Comments || Top||

#5  On the mine thing - everytime I hear something like that from a muslim country I automatically round file it. They have zero credibility.

Several dozens of them turned up in Western Europe, once they were rendered harmless by weapons techs. Handled a couple of them myself. They look harmless, but when activated, had the equivalent of about four ounces of C4 in them, with a contact trigger. Pick one up, lose an arm (at least). Kick one, lose a foot up to the knee. Lot of kids in Afghanistan with only one arm, or only one leg. There was a spot on the Web somewhere (do a google search) showing both the mines and the result. Use Afghanistan +"land mine" +amputation. I'm sure you'll get results. Don't look unless you've got a strong stomach, and put a puke shield over your keyboard.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 07/26/2003 17:30 Comments || Top||

#6  Worse, there's the old "Project Teabag" mines that both Russians and Americans used in Vietnam, and the Russians spread extensively over Afghanistan. A simple explosive that self-activated chemically (dropped soaking wet, it became explosive when it dried), it looked rather like a Lipton's tea bag. Nasty little thing, designed to tear off a foot.

Ed Becerra
Posted by: Ed Becerra || 07/26/2003 23:40 Comments || Top||

#7  Why spend money destroying non military targets (kids) and alienating your support? Sounds very bogus to me.

Here's an example, Flash..


Scroll down and read an account of a child who thought he found a pen to play with, and it went off in his hands.


Posted by: Ed Becerra || 07/26/2003 23:45 Comments || Top||

Down Under
Solomons rebel leader urged to surrender
A rebel leader accused of killing dozens of people in the Solomon Islands has been urged to surrender by the Pacific nation's senior police chief.
"The jig's up, Harold! Come out witcher hands up!"
Speaking in a radio broadcast, police commissioner William Morrell told rebel Harold Keke to give himself up and set free six hostages.
"Let the hostages go, Harold. It'll be easier on yez!"
Mr Keke has been operating on the remote Weathercoast of Guadalcanal, resisting truce calls during the four-year civil war. An Australian-led intervention force landed on Thursday to help restore law and order. Mr Keke, who styles himself as a "general" in the Guadalcanal Liberation Front, last week said he welcomed the force's arrival "as long as its first priority is to disarm the militants in Honiara and get rid of corrupt politicians".
Ummm... Harold? I think you're missing the point of this whole exercise...
Mr Morrell acknowledged the release of three of nine missionary hostages on the day of the intervention landings, following which there has been no fresh violence.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 07/26/2003 01:21 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [342 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ah yes, Operation Helpum Friend will roll on over the top of poor old Harold
Posted by: Anon1 || 07/26/2003 3:04 Comments || Top||

Dominique doubts efficacy of killing Saddam's sons
French Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin on Thursday rejected a renewed US appeal for more international military support for Iraq, saying that sending in French troops would only prolong a tense situation. "To build on a system that now exists [and] to add foreign forces to the coalition forces doesn't appear to us the best way to guarantee security in Iraq," de Villepin told France-Inter radio. Before taking part in postwar Iraq, de Villepin said France wanted the United Nations take a larger role in reconstruction and stabilization. "Only the United Nations can bring the guarantees of reconstruction necessary for the full international community to take part," de Villepin said. "Reconstructing Iraq is not easy."
And we don't intend to make it any easier...
De Villepin also said the deaths Tuesday of Saddam Hussein's sons, Odai and Qusai, signaled "the end of an era" but warned they could spark more resistance from some Iraqis who might try to "avenge" the two sons.
"Yup. Yup. Shoulda left 'em alive and kickin'. That's what we'da done..."
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 07/26/2003 01:04 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [453 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Whew! I was wondering if we'd done the wrong things in Iraq. No really (snicker), I've been "torn" and "conflicted" - just consider: there's hasn't been even one group hug, yet, in Iraq, excepting the self-masterbatory Shi'a demonstrations, of course. I feel their pain (but none of their pleasure - damn!).

Now, thank (insert favorite diety here), the Phrench FM comes along to assuage my fears. If Domique (whom they still insist is a man) is against our actions thusfar, then we have done the right things. Hey Dom, baby, don't keep me hanging like that, okay? Sweet.
Posted by: PD || 07/26/2003 1:25 Comments || Top||

#2  WTF? Apparently the Frunch are still putting anitfreeze in their wine. Somebody better warn Dom.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 07/26/2003 2:08 Comments || Top||

Dominique doubts efficacy of killing Saddam's sons

Just proves to me that we did the right thing.
Posted by: Celissa || 07/26/2003 2:30 Comments || Top||

#4  Dominique de villepin-in-the-arse doesn't like it? Well would he like Saddam reinstated? Would that make him shut his pie hole?
Posted by: Anon1 || 07/26/2003 3:05 Comments || Top||

#5  "sending in French troops would only prolong a tense situation."

Holy shit! I actually agree!
Posted by: Rafael || 07/26/2003 7:33 Comments || Top||

#6  Dominique's last name is actually Galouzeau. "De Villepin" was bought from one of the French "republics" after the original aristocratic family had been exterminated by their glorious revolution. Same thing as Giscard Valery, whose "d'Estaing" name was bought by one of his grand-parents (the last famous d'Estaing was an admiral who led French naval forces in supporting the American revolution and was decapitated by the French during the Terror).

Dominique is a fake aristocrat -- not that being a "true" one is much better as the glory, if any, is merely that of one's dead ancestors.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 07/26/2003 9:07 Comments || Top||

#7  Kalle - Whoa! No shit? So, uh, what else is for sale? My daughter's Peshawar birthday is coming up and, Peshawar, this would be one of those unique things, Peshawar, that are so hard to find! I'm sure, Peshawar, that it would stand her in good stead when she bopps off to Italy later this year. Peshawar.
Posted by: PD || 07/26/2003 9:29 Comments || Top||

#8  Maybe killing Dumb and Dumber is not all it's cracked up to be, but it can't hurt.
Posted by: Hiryu || 07/26/2003 11:11 Comments || Top||

#9  I refuse to take anyone seriously when they sound like "Pepi la Phue" from the old Looney Tunes. He is such a back stabbing little jock sniffer, I think I actually insulted skunks.
Posted by: SOG475 || 07/26/2003 12:33 Comments || Top||

#10  Dominique DeVillified's role of being the devil's advocate has been going to his head as of late.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 07/26/2003 12:40 Comments || Top||

#11  Does a "renewed US appeal for international military support fr Iraq" mean that we specifically asked French to contribute? I sure hope not. We don't need 'em despite what Mark Shields and Joe Biden say. They're not reliable re Iraq. They've helped in Afghanistan and maybe in intelligence, but there is such a gap between us and French re Iraq, it's not worth the pain to deal with them. Dutch, Japan, and Danmark are coming on board. French missed the train. Kiss off Dom, on ne veut plus de toi.
Posted by: michael || 07/26/2003 23:25 Comments || Top||

#12  Kalle,

At least Ribbentrop had the grace to keep his own name when he bought -his- "von." Yet another instance where the modern-day French government is morally inferior to its Vichyite past.

E. Brown
Posted by: Ernest Brown || 07/28/2003 1:35 Comments || Top||

Suicide bombers' base found at Moscow dacha
On Friday morning explosive experts of the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) completed the operation for defusing explosive devices discovered in the village of Tolstopaltsevo, some 30 kilometers westwards from Moscow. According to Interfax news agency, the cache was discovered around 1400 on Thursday in the garage of a 1-storey house during a search, carried out by investigators of the Prosecutor General’s Office and the FSB operatives in the framework of the probe into the suicide bombings at the rock concert at Moscow’s Tushino airfield and a blast in central Moscow earlier this month. During the search investigators discovered 6 explosive devices, designed in the form of the so-called shahid [martyr] belts, generally used by Chechen suicide bombers for perpetrating terror attacks in crowded public places. In connection with the operation by 1800 the territory of the village was cordoned off. The place where the cache was found was guarded by 50 traffic police cars, and all roads leading to the village were blocked. Motorists heading to Tolstopaltsevo on Thursday evening were stopped within 3 kilometers from the village. Several fire brigades, ambulances and two rescue teams of the Ministry for Emergency Situations also arrived to the site. By 0800 on Friday the FSB experts defused all six bombs by means of a special robot and water-cannons. The power of every bomb is estimated at over 1 kg of TNT equivalent. According to law enforcers, after the FSB explosives expert Georgy Trofimov died as he was trying to defuse the bomb in Tverskaya Street earlier this month, it was decided that the dangerous must be defused by machines without immediate participation of humans.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 07/26/2003 00:48 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [338 views] Top|| File under:

Zhirinovsky conveys condolences to Saddam
Deputy chairman of the Russian State Duma, the leader of the ultranationalist Liberal-Democratic Party Vladimir Zhirinovsky has expressed his condolences in a letter to the dethroned Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein in connection with the death of his sons, Odai and Qusai. The letter to Saddam was forwarded to the Iraqi embassy in Moscow on Friday, the LDPR faction said. Odai, 39, and Qusai, 37, were killed in a gunbattle with U.S. forces Tuesday after an Iraqi informant tipped the Americans to their presence.
Dear Sammy,

Sorry to hear about the boys getting bumped off. Bummer.


Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 07/26/2003 00:39 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [450 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "There's no such thing as bad publicity."

Good to see some things never change. I think...
Posted by: mojo || 07/26/2003 0:46 Comments || Top||

#2  :: perk ::

What address did he send it to?
Posted by: seafarious || 07/26/2003 1:33 Comments || Top||

#3  And in a related story:
Howard Dean of the Ultraknucklehead Liberal Democratic Party sent Saddam Hussein a Vermont Pity Bear to express the condolences
of The Party's Central Committee.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 07/26/2003 2:30 Comments || Top||

#4  gee, would he send a letter to the victims of Uday and Qusay's sadistic and murderous tendencies?
Posted by: Anon1 || 07/26/2003 3:10 Comments || Top||

#5  I don't know how familiar you guys are with Zhirinovsky. This guy makes Kim Jong Il look tame and completely sane by comparison. He would actually be funny except that some Russians actually vote for him and Russia already has nukes.
Posted by: Rafael || 07/26/2003 7:40 Comments || Top||

#6  Isn't Zhirinovsky the one who wants to take back Alaska?
Posted by: Angie Schultz || 07/26/2003 12:17 Comments || Top||

#7  Problem is that like Tom DeLay said, the Dems have gone off the deep end. They actually are aligning themselves with Saddam Hussien.

You know, they rip their hair over our casualties, and they beat their breasts over Liberia but heaven forbid that a Republican President ever did any thing humanitarian that wasn't their idea first....wait it WAS their idea, didn't the Dems all line up during the Clinton Administration and say "Yep, Saddam is a threat to world peace and we should go in there and get rid of him and his WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION......."

Funny, they seem to think that no one will remember or mention their flip flops.

They are whining about how long we have been in Iraq and the casualties.....how long have we had troops in KOSOVO and does anyone have a running tally on how many have been killed by MOSLEM extremists???

You know I clearly understand "politics as usual" but this is not "politics as usual", this is insanity. AND they run the big risk of being embarrassed over WMD and embarrassed in the next election.
Posted by: SOG475 || 07/26/2003 12:39 Comments || Top||

#8  SOG475 - Spot-on comments. Additional observation: They do have a very sympathetic press to help them squirm past the flip flops... except when a "journalist" thinks it's juicy enough to make him a star, that is. In today's brand of journalism it appears that the rule is: to get ahead, to succeed, you gotta take somebody down. It's become a canabalistic occupation. So the Dems, though generally given a pass, do have to be careful - and stroke the hell outta the "journalists" when the cameras are off.
Posted by: PD || 07/26/2003 13:15 Comments || Top||

#9  Yeah them Dems gets a free pass on FAUX FOX News, Rush Limbo, Ann Eva Braun Coulter--that left wing nut Rupert Murdoch and those Marxists who own Clear Channel oughta be deported
Posted by: Not Mike Moore || 07/26/2003 17:07 Comments || Top||

#10  NMM - that's why left-wing talk radio doesn't do well without gov't subsidy (NPR) - not entertaining, enlightening, or amusing. Sorry...but hey, you've always got Al Franken!
so you've got that going for you...which is nice
Posted by: Frank G || 07/26/2003 17:25 Comments || Top||

#11  NMM... Dude your nom de plume is most apt. Although I don't agree with his politics, MM can be funny.
Posted by: whitecollar redneck || 07/26/2003 23:19 Comments || Top||

#12  Shit, I've read that there is some doubt as to whether we got the boys. Shouldn't Vlad hold off on his condoleances?
NMM, you're ridiculous. Fox News has an audience of 800,000. CBS(Saddam bootlicker, Dan Rather), NBC, ABC(Peter Jennings swooned while talking to Iraqi "MP" who had survived "carpet bombing") have an audience of 33 million. Mo Dowd and Krugman? Pro-war voices have only one place to go: the radio and blogs. Don't worry, if Rush didn't have an audience, he'd be dropped like a hot potato. Leftists equivalents wouldn't last 2 months unless a billionaire bought a station and was willing to lose millions. You think Murdoch stands for losing money just to brainwash the likes of you? Smell the coffee.
Posted by: michael || 07/26/2003 23:39 Comments || Top||

Great White North
War criminals missing in Canada
from the CBC who in turn cited The National Post newspaper...
Ontario police [I’m assuming they mean the Ontario Provincial Police] want Ottawa to release the names and photos of dozens of war criminals that went missing while awaiting deportation from Canada. Citizenship and Immigration Canada has lost track of 59 [59?!?!?] war criminals, including a Lebanese murderer wanted for crimes against humanity and a Kashmiri militant considered armed and dangerous. The individuals were ordered to report to immigration offices for deportation, but none showed up.
Big surprise there.
While the ministry has admitted it has lost track of these individuals, it has refused to release their names and photographs, even to police. Citizenship and Immigration Canada has maintained that the Privacy Act prohibits the government from releasing anything more than the criminals’ nationalities, marital status, height, weight and eye colour. Ontario’s Minister of Public Security, Bob Runciman, is considering taking Ottawa to court unless it reverses its stance on the issue.
Canada’s a big country.. keep searching boys.
Posted by: Rafael || 07/26/2003 2:22:41 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [462 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Typical - these guys broke all sorts of laws prior to/and during their immigration (you can bet they said they never did nuthin' wrong, nossir, on their entry to the great white north) but all the libs can wring their hands about are privacy impacts
Posted by: Frank G || 07/26/2003 16:13 Comments || Top||

#2  "...the Privacy Act prohibits the government from releasing anything more than the criminals’ nationalities, marital status, height, weight and eye colour."

Nothing that might help find them, in other words. Typical.
Posted by: mojo || 07/26/2003 17:08 Comments || Top||

#3  59? FIFTY NINE?????


and i bet they are all islamofascists otherwise there wouldn't be a big fuss about releasing photos and names. We wouldn't want to stir up racism now would we?
Posted by: Anon1 || 07/26/2003 22:40 Comments || Top||

Canada, Iran throw pies at each other
Diplomatic relations between Canada and Iran deteriorated Friday as the ambassador to Iran returned to Ottawa and the foreign affairs minister rejected claims of Canadian injustice. Iran responded by accusing a B.C. police officer of murdering one of its nationals. A Port Moody police officer shot and killed 18-year-old Keyvan Tabesh on Monday. They allege he threatened them with a machete. Iranian officials call the shooting "incomprehensible" and have demanded those responsible be brought to justice.
"It’s utterly incomprehensible! We wield machetes all the time!"
Graham rejected the allegations, saying he sent a note to Iran’s embassy in Ottawa to show them how things are done in democratic societies.
Was the note on one of those yellow sticky things?
"We are informing the government of Iran that the body [the machete-wielding guy] has been returned to the family and the family’s will, in terms of the disposition of the body, will be respected," says Graham. If Iran wants to connect the two incidents, it must understand analogies go both ways, he says. "I expect us to have the reciprocal rights and privileges in Iran."
...and then he woke up.
Canada invited Iranian officials to observe the investigation into Tabesh’s death, but Deputy Prime Minister John Manley says a friendly resolution is unlikely.
Ya think?
Posted by: Rafael || 07/26/2003 1:56:47 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [549 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This is getting interesting. Canada appears to be trying to hold the high ground - and not reciprocate the demanding foolishness of the Black Hats.

Rafael - On this topic yesterday, you were in favor of Dual Passports.

I think dual citizenship is idiotic... and I believe the situation is simple:

If you are granted citizenship in a country, by birth or naturalization, then you are a citizen of that country. Period. No other.

If you are a naturalized citizen, then your country of origin means nothing, zip, nada, as you have pledged yourself to the new country - and they have reciprocated for that pledge by granting you rights - including representation and travel rights as evidenced by the passport. Nobody MADE you emigrate from your previous home - it was your choice. Choice made.

Can't make such a pledge? Can't reciprocate the generosity of your new home? Then stay wherever you are. Choice made.

End of story.

"As for dual citizenship, it has become too conveniant for governments to disallow it."
That just doesn't make sense. Too convenient? Wha? It's THEIR passport - to give or not.

"Most countries subscribe to the idea that you can't make a person "stateless", so dual citizenship makes it easier to boot someone out of their country."
As for booting someone, the ONE PASSPORT idea makes this idiot-proof, not the dual fiasco, to wit:
If he's YOURS, then you do whatever the law prescribes.
If he's NOT, then you apply your laws, again, as he is subject to them while in your country. If deportation is what the law prescribes, then ship his dumb ass home.

How easy - or difficult - it is to get a visa is irrelevant. I've been "on the road" for more than 5 of the last 10 years working abroad. I deal with it. I am an American citizen. It is a privilege to have a passort. Period.
Posted by: PD || 07/26/2003 14:39 Comments || Top||

#2  PD - I agree. I don't understand the concept of dual citizenship. Aren't US citizens supposed to give up their allegiance to foreign powers, etc?
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 07/26/2003 15:34 Comments || Top||

#3  ZF - Absolutely. Many countries, apparently, do not have an oath, as such. I can't see how else they could possibly allow dual citizenship. So they must ask nothing of their citizens - and that's probably exactly what they get.
Posted by: PD || 07/26/2003 15:41 Comments || Top||

#4  you were in favor of Dual Passports.

Not really in favor, just that it is conveniant in my case. I hold both Canadian and Polish citizenship. I was born in Poland; my parents got out when I was about yay tall. I would love to get rid of my place of birth in my Canadian passport, and in fact I can, without problems. Not that I am ashamed, but let's face it, people in various places don't treat you solely by the cover of your passport.
However, if you omit the place of birth in your passport, several countries will not let you in without a visa, and I'm not talking about some backward countries either (Holland does it). It's true, for me it is mostly a conveniance thing. In addition, Poland now demands (it used to be otherwise) that if you hold Polish citizenship then you must use a Polish passport to enter the country. (Though due to a huge drop in people going back to visit, I've heard that if I insist loudly enough, they'll glue a Polish visa into my Canadian passport). BTW, I could be missing something, but I assume other passports also have the "place of birth" statistic.

As for dual citizenship: the re-designed, upcoming Canadian Immigration Act makes it easier to revoke a person's citizenship if they are found engaging in acts of terrorism, for example. Revoking one's citizenship means they can deport your ass and be rid of a headache. But they can't do that, and most countries won't, if you renounced your previous citizenship and you only have one. Hence I can't see governments disallowing multiple-citizenship because it is conveniant for them in cases where a citizen turns bad. BTW, the upcoming Canadian Immigration Act explicitly states that citizenship can be taken away in certain cases. But this only makes sense if you believe that a person cannot be made "stateless", ie. he has dual-citizenship.

If he's YOURS, then you do whatever the law prescribes

That's already true. In fact the Canadian passport clearly states that when visiting the country of your other citizenship, you're SOL if you screw up. In the photojournalist case, with all the Canadian gov't bashing I've been doing, I must admit they're hands are tied and all they can do is send strongly worded notes to Tehran.

If push comes to shove, there's no question which citizenship I'll be dropping (no, not the Canadian one despite my anti-Chretien, posts). But for now, again, it is a conveniance thing because everytime I visit Poland I don't have to worry about those restrictions they put on furriners. Though it is still more complicated because I'm considered "living abroad" and I do not get to enjoy all the Polish goodies like free health care.

You're right though. If you decide to make your home here, then you should slowly begin to cut that umbilical cord. Problem is, I've seen many cases of immigrants with divided loyalties, not to mention the ones that are totally incompatible with our most important values and mores: freedom and tolerance. (similar wording appears in the upcoming Canada Immigration Act, which I like :) )
Posted by: Rafael || 07/26/2003 16:01 Comments || Top||

#5  Aren't US citizens supposed to give up their allegiance to foreign powers, etc?

It's a matter of other countries not recognizing your allegiance. As long as they see you as a citizen of their country, you must abide by whatever law they make up. And if you think it's a simple matter to give up a citizenship, think again. In the Polish case, the Polish President has to approve it (after you pay something like $5000, and that's only if the lady at the information counter at the local Polish consulate decides it's ok to give you the application).
Posted by: Rafael || 07/26/2003 16:12 Comments || Top||

#6  Rafael = RG117? sorry , I was away on vacation
Posted by: Frank G || 07/26/2003 19:39 Comments || Top||

#7  Rafael = RG117?

Rafael = the artist formerly known as RW, proud Rantburger since circa Dec. 2002
Posted by: Rafael || 07/26/2003 19:48 Comments || Top||

#8  Dear Canada:
Our cops beat your citizen to death. Whatta ya gonna do about it? Nothing? Thought so.
If you wish to discuss this further, wait until we have nuclear weapons, and we will show you how things are "done" in an Islamic society. You won't like it.
Your ambassador can take this note, eat shit, and bark at the moon.
Posted by: Watcher || 07/26/2003 21:30 Comments || Top||

US likely to push for Indian troops
The US is likely to renew its request to New Delhi to send troops to Iraq during Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff General Richard B Myers’ two-day visit to India beginning Monday. With a fresh UN resolution on Iraq to give a broader mandate to enable more countries to participate in stablisation force on the cards, Myers is likely to broach the subject.
Bring your checkbook!
The first top US official to visit India weeks after it turned down a proposal to send troops to Iraq, Myers will hold intensive negotiations with National Security advisor Brajesh Mishra and top defence officials, including Chairman of the Chief of Staffs Committee Admiral Madhvendera Singh. During his two-day visit, Myers will also hold talks with the Army Chief Gen N C Vij and the new Defence secretary Ajay Prasad who is also the co-chairman of the Indo-US Defence Policy Group (DPG).

As part of moves to pressure India, the US has so far withheld its go ahead on Israeli proposal to sell Arrow anti-missile system to India. The system is manufactured by a joint US-Israeli collaboration project and its sale would figure prominently in the DPG meeting.
The Indian press always amuses me. It’s always all about India. Never any consideration of technology transfer issues, effect on US-Pakistani relationship, or Chinese reaction. It reminds me of the time I drove through Iowa, listening to the radio the whole time. There was a longshoremans strike -- might affect corn prices. Poor harvest in the (then) Soviet Union -- might affect corn prices. Lot of rain expected -- might affect corn prices. They really need to get out more. See the world, ya know.
Posted by: 11A5S || 07/26/2003 7:45:44 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [358 views] Top|| File under:

#1  They say when a butterfly flutters its wings in Africa... it might affect corn prices in Iowa.
Posted by: Rafael || 07/26/2003 7:58 Comments || Top||

#2  The Indian press always amuses me. It’s always all about India.

And it's always about how we're selfish and self-centered in not explicitly catering to India's best interests. Like I said, they're not quite our allies (let alone friends) and not quite our enemies. In short, they're a lot like the French, except they have, in addition, a complex about whites.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 07/26/2003 10:32 Comments || Top||

#3  US likely to push for Indian troops

I suspect a lot of this is wishful thinking. It's the bazaar mentality - they're hoping we'll give 'em some more goodies in exchange for those precious Indian troops. It's likely that we'll get an Iraqi militia up and going in record time, and India will end up looking like Turkey - yet another so-called ally that did not live up to its obligations. These guys really have an inflated idea of their own importance, considering their incompetence. Think Chechnya is a quagmire? Take a look at Kashmir. These losers are pathetic.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 07/26/2003 10:40 Comments || Top||

UN asks agencies to stay away from rural NWFP
The United Nations (UN) on Friday directed all those working for various UN agencies not to travel rural areas and Afghan refugee camps until further orders after an attack on a UN vehicle in the Frontier province.
"Y'all just stay put. There's Bugtis and such about..."
A Peshawar-based UN agency official told Daily Times the move was a precautionary measure. He said all staff associated with several UN agencies had suspended their activities in the region for an indefinite period. However, the decision would be reviewed on Monday, he said. The UN decision came after an incident that occurred in a village near Peshawar on Thursday in which a WHO vehicle was fired at by unidentified attackers.
"Mahmoud! Look! Infidels!"
"Maw! Fetch me my RPG!"
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 07/26/2003 01:48 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [343 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sounds like there's rampant lawlessness in Pakistan. Isn't this a Pakistani quagmire?
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 07/26/2003 15:08 Comments || Top||

Fazl back from India
Pakistani Islamist leader Maulana Fazlur Rehman said yesterday his just-ended visit to India had strengthened hopes that peace efforts between the nuclear neighbours would gain further momentum. "We feel that some steps can now be taken to move the peace process forward for resolution of disputes between Pakistan and India," said Rehman, the secretary-general of Pakistan's powerful Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal Islamic alliance.
Careful talking like that. You'll give Qazi another heart attack. Or catch lead from Azam Tariq...
Rehman, who heads the country's radical Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam (JUI) party, made a rare visit to India from July 15 to Wednesday with three other JUI members of parliament at the invitation of India's Jamiat Ulema-e-Hind Muslim party. The highlight of his trip were meetings with Indian Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee and opposition leader Sonia Gandhi. "I found Vajpayee very positive and he talked positive. He agreed to come to Pakistan to attend the Saarc (South Asian Association for Regional Co-operation) summit which is good omen for improvement of ties," Rehman said. Upon his return, Rehman met with Pakistan Prime Minister Zafarullah Khan Jamali and conveyed a message from Vajpayee. Ahmed refused to divulge details of the message but hinted it carried proposals from Vajpayee on ways to resolve contentious matters - including the core dispute of Kashmir.
I'm so confused...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 07/26/2003 00:21 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [368 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Is this the guy wearing a 70's dishtowel as a turban? Tres chic...
Posted by: mojo || 07/26/2003 0:48 Comments || Top||

#2  Mullah Diesel seems to be grooming himself for Prime Ministership of Pakistan.
Posted by: Paul Moloney || 07/26/2003 1:15 Comments || Top||

Sadr Tells U.S. To Leave Najaf, Saddam Hunt Heats
[snipped, rerun from yesterday]
Posted by: Bruce || 07/26/2003 6:08:28 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [464 views] Top|| File under:

#1  possibly a harmless MOAB demonstration on the outskirts of town will change some minds
Posted by: Frank G || 07/26/2003 18:42 Comments || Top||

#2  listen foolish racist..it is their country,their land,their oil and their motherfuckin future you pighead....so dont be mad they dont traet GIs as liberators but occupiers..remember it is American tanks on Iraqi streets and not vice versa....Iraqis come fast not Gis.....and today the resistance rightfully killed 4 marines..they bit the mighty dust (or sand,hey this is desert country). ...The Mehdi Army will never leave IrAQ......Americans will one day leave no matter what...and Sadr and all his supporters are very young ..sistani and his Ayatolah friends will be dead in less than a decade...they r in their late seventies....and Sadr will be a fully fledged Ayatollah...with no Saddam,no America and no Baath party to stop him jus a weak pro American puppet state which wont stop him......the future is not bright
Posted by: stevey robinson || 07/26/2003 22:12 Comments || Top||

#3  stevey stevey stevey: they RIGHTFULLY killed 4 marines?

Perhaps you think Iraq would be better off if the US reinstated Saddam and locked the dissenters up in prison again, reopened the torture chambers and reinstated the SS oops Republican Guards.

After all, being Iraqis according to you they are much more appropriate people to be running that country (into the ground).

If however you actually CARED about the lives of the Iraqi people (instead of PRETENDING to so you can attack America - your real agenda) you would be glad to see Saddam gone, and be hopeful that the Americans would STAY as long as it takes to set up civilian infrastructure, the rule of law and some civic institutions that did NOT revolve around the rule of thugs and violence.

The cycle of violence needs to be broken not by allowing a new thug, Islamicist or Baathist, to grow and take the place of Saddam, but to restructure society so that the rule of law is respected more than thug or power-hungry Imam.

You must realise that the only way a country can advance itself is to allocate its available resources towards improving the living standards of its citizens. That cannot happen under the rule of Mullahs and Thugs. Corruption and misallocation of funds happens there.

Iraq's OIL money needs to go to schools, hospitals, road and dam building, agriculture, factories: not Mosques, Palaces and the hip pockets of Thugs.

The only way that society will have any hope of bettering itself is if the US stays and smashes the Mehdi Thugs and others of that ilk.

The future is bright, Stevey, as long as the US doesn't give up in the face of a whinging defeatist media and moonbats like you.
Posted by: Anon1 || 07/26/2003 23:01 Comments || Top||

Baghdad ladies online - What might this portend?
It was just a normal evening fooling around online here in rural Idaho when I stumbled across a personal advertisement from a lady from Baghdad. 5 minutes later we were chatting in a popular IM program. She was looking for a Muslim, and I am not, so the chat was very polite - she had great English, good manners, acted desperate in no way whatsoever, and the only awkward moment was when she said she thought the power would be going out soon - and apologized in advance in case she dissappeared. She did. I hope she finds her nice Muslim guy. A bit surreal ...

Folks the end is near for repressive regimes when it’s ladies are online. IOL coming soon? I rank this 2nd to the recent extermination of tweedledee and
tweedledum as a sign it’s just about all over.

Posted by: Beau - CA Escapee || 07/26/2003 2:25:34 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [551 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Very true. That's why the Imams in Iran are toast...and hey - the Persian ladies are quite fetching.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 07/26/2003 2:37 Comments || Top||

#2  Especially when all you can see are the eyes... I'm getting a vision, now, wait, wait, I see... black velvet paintings on a roadside... $5 each... $20 with a frame...

No, sorry. Just fooling around - you're right. Some of the Arab ladies are pretty awesome, as well. If your daddy is a very big shot, Saudi femalians can even get a "job" at Aramco, in certain departments, anyway. I knew a few in the Computer Applications Dept and in Career Development - two of the few places in which they are permitted.

Of course, they are treated as pets or jokes, not equals, by the Saudi men... and resented for taking away a headcount slot... but not so overtly or offensively as to anger that Big Daddy guy. No sir! Saudi's know what to kiss and when, where power is involved.

Free flow of information. That's the key, awright!
Posted by: PD || 07/26/2003 6:19 Comments || Top||

#3  Curiouser and Curiouser ... talked to her again today and turns out she is a Sunni, and thinks Sunni's like merkins. Doesn't believe the brothers are dead - thinks we are kidding. Believes all the trouble is in the south - sadr? - not the north. Educated journalist. Hmm. Well, not that educated ... knew nothing of Idaho! heh
Posted by: Beau - CA Escapee || 07/26/2003 19:03 Comments || Top||

‘Comical Ali’ named in 1985 murder of defected Iraqi agent
Swedish police said on Friday they had received information that Iraq’s former information minister Mohammed Said as-Sahhaf, dubbed “Comical Ali”, was implicated in the unresolved 1985 murder of a defected Iraqi agent in Stockholm.
That's not very funny...
Sahhaf became ambassador to Sweden just after the brutal killing of Majid Husain, who had sought asylum in the Scandinavian country and planned to tell all about Saddam Hussein’s security apparatus and agents in Europe, according to Swedish daily Svenska Dagbladet. “We received a tip-off on Monday that we should question him,” Stockholm police chief investigator Bo Isaksson told AFP. “We are going to look into the matter, but do not consider this to be a matter of any urgency,” he said.
"I mean, the poor guy's been dead for 18 years, what's the rush?"
Husain disappeared in January 1985 and his body was found chopped in 54 pieces and stuffed in two suitcases left in a churchyard outside Stockholm two months later.
54 pieces? That's a pretty thorough hit...
According to Svenska Dagbladet, Swedish police have long suspected two men and a woman of carrying out the murder for the Iraqi regime. The paper identified the woman as Jamila Mustafa El-Chafej. Police were however never able to make any progress in the case as long as Saddam Hussein remained in power, the paper said.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 07/26/2003 01:55 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [414 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Gentlemen, this is the way I see it.

"Comical Ali" Mr.As-Sahhaf, was sent by Saddam to be Ambassador of Sweden because Saddam was obsessed with the pornographic series "Swedish Erotica". This series the best porno available in the late 70s and early 80s. Saddam wanted Comical Ali to spy on the producers of Swedish Erotica, and learn their secrets so that Iraq could become the new porno capital of the world.

However, when Comical Ali got to Sweden, he was flabberghasted to learn that Swedish Erotica was filmed in the San Fernando Valley in California, and not Sweden.

He didn't want to break the bad news to Saddam because correcting Saddam meant immediate assignment to the Iranian Front. Besides, Ali became addicted to lutefisk and didn't want to leave Sweden.

The sham continued until Saddam sent his favorite heterosexual couple, Jamila Mustafa El-Chafej and Majid "The Wadi" Husain to Sweden so they could star in a porno movie that Saddam wrote. It was a film biography of his mother and her relationships with a racing camel named "Sandbisquit".

Now Ali grew to hate the porn star because he always teased Ali by reversing his last name and calling him Haf-Ass. So Ali killed "The Wadi" with the help of Jamila, who became Ali's mistress.

Fortunately Saddam forgot about the murdered porn star because he was more interested in gay porno and his new stars of that genre, Murat and Aris.

One last point. Add up the letters of the full names of Ali, Jamila, and the victim. You get 52. Add four more for "Wadi" and you get 56. This is for 54 pieces and two suitcases. Which proves that not only is Ali a murderer, he is also a member of a satanic cult.

Posted by: Columbo || 07/26/2003 3:06 Comments || Top||

#2  Ha, Have you seen Baghdad Bob? He's a real sidesplitter!

--- Oh, you mean he's comical?

No, I mean he's a *REAL* sidesplitter, as in 54 easy pieces. (gotta impress the boss to get a-head in life)
Posted by: parallaxview || 07/26/2003 3:27 Comments || Top||

Southeast Asia
US warns coup plotters
Uh-oh! continuation of my rant earler - needed it’s own subjectline
Washington: The United States today warned of "immediate negative consequences" to bilateral relations if a military coup in the Philippines was allowed to succeed.

"No one should be under any doubt that we fully support the legitimate civilian government of President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo," State Department spokeswoman Joanne Moore said in statement.

"At this time we have no reason to believe that there is a real threat to the Arroyo government," said the statement.

"But let there be no mistake that a military coup would have immediate negative consequences, including consequences on the bilateral relationship."

Moore said the State Department was trying to confirm reports through its embassy in Manila that some American citizens, and Australian Ambassador to the Philippines Ruth Pearce, were among those being held by a group of soldiers in a shopping mall."

"We have heard those reports but we cannot confirm them at this time," said Moore.

Posted by: Frank G || 07/26/2003 8:01:25 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [469 views] Top|| File under:

#1  keeping you more updated than your damn new sources lol: Possible Coup Attempt in Philippines
Posted by: Frank G || 07/26/2003 20:07 Comments || Top||

#2  how about "news" sources?
Posted by: Frank G || 07/26/2003 20:08 Comments || Top||

Phillipines - Fox Breaking News
just saw on Fox

Apparently the Australian ambassador and a couple American hostages are being held
as drudge sez: Developing
Posted by: Frank G || 07/26/2003 7:01:27 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [439 views] Top|| File under:

#1  apologize for the non-spellcheck of the P.I. blame it on Stoli
Posted by: Frank G || 07/26/2003 19:02 Comments || Top||

#2  sounds like this it
Posted by: Frank G || 07/26/2003 19:04 Comments || Top||

#3  It gets bigger: a possible coup attempt in P.I.
by allies of Estrada
Posted by: Frank G || 07/26/2003 19:07 Comments || Top||

Don’t push Myanmar back into isolation: Win Aung
The international community should avoid pushing back Myanmar into isolation by imposing or threatening to implement sanctions, the country’s foreign minister said in a commentary published here Friday.
Why not?
“Threats and imposition of sanctions are counter-productive,” Foreign Minister Win Aung said in the article published in Singapore’s Straits Times newspaper. “Sanctions are blunt weapons. They do more harm than good. For many years now, all forms of development assistance have been denied Myanmar by international finance institutions.” He added: “It is one thing to criticise and adopt sanctions. It is quite another to ensure that 52 million people are well-fed, well-clothed and well-sheltered.”
He's operating under the mistaken assumption that anybody gives a rat's patou. Being nice didn't work — so why should we waste more time being nice? It's the old "one false move and the population gets it." North Korea does it better.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 07/26/2003 01:58 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [346 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The name isn't Win Aung you western ignoramouses!

It's Daw Craw!!!!
Posted by: Anon1 || 07/26/2003 3:22 Comments || Top||

#2  you western ignoramouses!

Hey! I resent being called a mouse!!
Posted by: Rafael || 07/26/2003 7:55 Comments || Top||

#3  He added: “It is one thing to criticise and adopt sanctions. It is quite another to ensure that 52 million people are well-fed, well-clothed and well-sheltered.”

It is NOT the WORLD'S responsibility that Myanmar's citizens are well-fed, well-clothed, and well-sheltered. That responsibility belongs to the government and people of Myanmar. If you want the benefits of international trade, international financing, and international respect, you have to earn it by behaving in a way the rest of the world's nations respect. We do not respect the actions of the Myanmar government. Withholding trade is one way of expressing our loathing of the behavior of the Myanmar government. Don't like it? Tough cojones - either change, or learn to live with it.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 07/26/2003 10:23 Comments || Top||

‘9/11 Attacks Plotted in Manila’
The third highest ranking official of Osama Bin Laden’s Al-Qaeda terrorist network has admitted to US authorities that he plotted in Manila the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks on the United States, CNN reported last night. CNN said Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, who was arrested overseas earlier this year, admitted during interrogation that he and his nephew Ramzi Yousef planned in 1994 the Sept. 11 attacks that killed more than 3,000 people in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania.
"It's a fam'ly affair!"
That same year, CNN reported, the two “admitted” slipping 14 bottles containing liquid explosives into the Ninoy Aquino International Airport. They said they used plastic bottles of contact lens solutions as containers, according to the international news network. Mohammed supposedly concealed a metal detonator between his toes and carried other pieces of metal and jewelry to confuse airport authorities. “He said he and Yousef placed condoms in their bags to support their cover story that they were traveling to meet women,” CNN said.
Very slick...
In December 1994, Yousef actually planted and set off a bomb on a Philippine Airlines flight, CNN said. “They were sent to carry out an audacious plot to bomb 11 US airlines over the Pacific, which the FBI estimates could have killed 4,000 people,” it said, adding that the plan was aborted after the two men’s safe house — a unit in an apartment building on Manila’s Quirino Highway — accidentally caught fire.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 07/26/2003 01:12 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [338 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, slammer. Slammer, Khalid Shaikh Mohammed.
Posted by: Ri'Neref || 07/26/2003 11:02 Comments || Top||

Home Front
Satire site: Bloggers fisk Dean to increase readership
From Scrappleface. ROTFLMAO!
(2003-07-26) -- Several so-called "webloggers" announced today that they would begin ridiculing Nazgûl beauzeau presidential candidate Howard Dean "the Moonbat" on their so-called "blogs" in order to increase site traffic.

The announcements came after a Washington Post story said supporters of Gov. Dean’s hopeless presidential bid are using email to deluge reporters who write negative things about their candidate.

"My sitemeter’s been languishing around 25 visitors per day," said one unnamed blogger. "I figure if I can tick off Dean’s backers I could get that up to 50 or even 75."

Editor’s Note: The vast editorial staff at ScrappleFace will never resort to attacking the anti-American leftist wacko Governor of Vermont in order to increase visitors to this site.
Posted by: RiNeref || 07/26/2003 1:14:56 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [355 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What's amazing about Scott Ott is that he does what he does day in, day out, everyday. Funniest and cleverest mofo on the 'Net, IMHO.
Posted by: PD || 07/26/2003 15:45 Comments || Top||

Middle East
IDF framed in checkpoint story
EFL. Hat tip LGF
A Palestinian who claimed that he was held and
beaten for 30 hours at an Israel Defense Forces
checkpoint now admits that it was actually the
Palestinian security services who held him and
beat him.
We should have known! Did he boo Haman or something?
For four days, over and over, Afif Barghouti, 31, told family, friends and journalists of how Israeli soldiers had held him at the Qalandiyah checkpoint for some 30 hours, blindfolded and with his hands tied, and beat him. They did not even let him go to the bathroom, he said. He also told the story to an attorney friend, who hurried him to the hospital in Ramallah for a check-up. That was on Sunday, July 20, shortly after the
soldiers had allegedly released him.
Liar, liar.
The Palestinian press ran prominent photos of
his bruised and battered back, accompanied by
his story. According to these reports, he had
tried to pass through the checkpoint on his way
to a plastering job in A-Ram. His identity card
also contained his membership card in Fatah,
and that, combined with the name Barghouti, was
enough to make the soldiers decide to hold him
and abuse him, he said. (Another Barghouti,
Marwan, is a senior Fatah official currently on
trial in Israel for alleged involvement in the
murder of dozens of Israelis.)
Just goes to show.
There was certainly no doubt that Barghouti had
been beaten. His back was red from the blows,
his head bore a round burn mark where a lighted
cigarette had been stubbed out on his skin. His
hands were swollen, and he had trouble moving
both his hands and his head.

Haaretz English Edition published his story
yesterday ("Anyone who walked by, kicked,")
along with the IDF Spokeswoman’s response, in
which the army said that it was looking into
the allegations, and if they were found to be
true, they would be "handled with the utmost
severity." The IDF "views with severity any
behavior that involves humiliation of or
violence toward the Palestinian population,"
the spokesman added.

But army officials have now told Haaretz that
their investigation has revealed the
allegations to be false. They said that from
the moment they first learned of the
allegations - from the media - last Sunday,
sector commanders had begun interrogating all
soldiers and officers who could have been
involved in the affair, even bringing soldiers
on leave back to base for this purpose. They
also made intensive efforts to locate
Barghouti, so that he could attempt to identify
the soldiers who had abused him and finally
succeeded, thanks to the numerous interviews he
granted, including to the Israeli media. For
two days, he refused to meet with the IDF
investigators, but finally agreed to come to
Qalandiyah to reenact what had happened. There,
the officials said, it became clear, "on the
basis of the interrogation and the testimony he
gave, that his initial version did not match
the reality on the ground, and it is evident
that the story was not true."

When confronted with the IDF’s response, Afif
Barghouti admitted to his lawyer friend that he
had made the whole story up.

What really happened, he said, was that on
Saturday, Palestinians he recognized as working
for the Palestinian security services had
seized him, held him for almost two days and
beaten him. He said that they suspected him of
being an Israeli collaborator, to which he
responded: "I don’t work with the Israelis and
I don’t work with the Palestinians."
Posted by: Ri || 07/26/2003 9:21:41 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [353 views] Top|| File under:

#1  (snicker) The denials are gonna be priceless, if they are dumb enough to do it. Thx for a good laugh!
Posted by: PD || 07/26/2003 9:55 Comments || Top||

#2  You're welcome. BTW, Fred? Why did the server clip my name?
Posted by: Ri'Neref || 07/26/2003 12:05 Comments || Top||

Israel Defies Bush, Claims Separation Wall "Necessity"
EFL - Since it’s Islam Online, of course, the byline was from "Occupied Jerusalem" but there’s a cool pic of the wall on the site link. Taking down the wall is reaallllyyy bad idea. One look at it and you know why the Paleos want it down - a permanent separation stopping the boomers will force them to live in their own squalor without Israel as an excuse
In clear and immediate defiance of U.S. President George Bush’s criticism of the controversial Israeli separation wall now under construction in the West Bank, an Israeli official claimed Saturday, July 26, it was a "necessity."

"The building of this security fence has no political connotations. It’s a necessity dictated by the security imperative of preventing Palestinian suicide bombings against Israel," the official, who asked not to be named, told Agence France-Presse (AFP).

In landmark talks with Palestinian Premier Mahmoud Abbas at the White House Friday, July 25, Bush dismissed as a "problem" the wall which Israel started building in June last year.

"I think the wall is a problem, and I have discussed this with (Israeli Prime Minister) Ariel Sharon," Bush said, adding it was very difficult to "develop confidence between the Palestinians and the Israelis ... with a wall snaking through the West Bank."

The Israeli official took issue with Bush’s use of the word "wall" even though the barrier does take that form for part of its length.

"It is a shame that President Bush did not use the correct term security fence," argued the Israeli official.

"Israel is not constructing a wall -- it’s the Palestinians who use that term in a bid to persuade the world it’s some sort of Berlin Wall.

"This fence is a necessity and not a choice. Sharon will explain that to President Bush when he meets him" in Washington Tuesday, July 29, the official alleged.

He recalled that in the past the U.S. leader had "always championed Israel’s right to defend itself."

The separation wall, which incorporates a network of earthworks, trenches and patrol roads, also cuts a whole string of Palestinian communities in two.

Planned to snake some 900 kilometers (550 miles) along the West Bank, the wall has infuriated Palestinians as it leaves large swathes of the occupied territory on the Israeli side and is seen as a bid to preempt negotiations on the final borders of the Palestinian state promised by 2005 under a U.S.-backed peace roadmap.

Israeli Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom admitted after his meeting with U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell Thursday, July 24, that a "misunderstanding" is developing between the U.S. administration and Israel over the construction of the wall.

Posted by: Frank G || 07/26/2003 8:24:51 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [437 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The fence is a great idea -- if only the Israelis would electrify it!
Posted by: Anonymous || 07/26/2003 9:30 Comments || Top||

#2  Well, hell. If all the noise I've heard today is true (all I get are the Beeb & CNN, sigh) I guess I'll hafta go create a quicky hotmail acct and go to a 'Net Cafe and send the WhiteHouse an email begging Dubya to retract any notion of pressuring Israel to stop building the wall. It's a fucking GREAT idea - and Dubya's overstepping his bounds to presume tell Israel they can't defend their borders as they see fit.

Way too stupid to believe, but stupider things happen every day.
Posted by: PD || 07/26/2003 10:06 Comments || Top||

#3  It's going to take a generation before the Israelis and Palestinians can talk to each other on a civil basis: Separation is a necessity.
Posted by: Hiryu || 07/26/2003 11:08 Comments || Top||

#4  And, BTW, when did Israel ever do as told by the US? Just keep the money coming, suckers!
Posted by: Not Mike Moore || 07/26/2003 11:56 Comments || Top||

#5  And, BTW, when did Israel ever do as told by the US? Just keep the money coming, suckers!

And, BTW, when did any of our other aid recipients ever do as told by the US? Korea, Japan, Germany* - which one of them does as they're told? In their eyes, that would be demeaning to them. Just keep the money coming, suckers!

We spend a lot more money on those other allies than we do on Israel. The difference is that Israelis can defend themselves without having our troops on their soil. Not to mention we subsidize our enemies, such as Jordan and Egypt, to keep their crazies under control.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 07/26/2003 15:15 Comments || Top||

#6  For the life of me - and I love GWB and most of the things he's done - I don't understand why we would EVER ask Israel to lower defenses against the krazed loser killer cults of the Paleos. Let them rot on the other side of a great big fucking wall. Settlements will either be disbanded or left to their own means of defense, but Israel proper should be a fortress. Move the embassy to Jerusalem now
Posted by: Frank G || 07/26/2003 16:07 Comments || Top||

#7  Zhang I'll bet Israel gets more direct aid than any of those countries--not to mention all the indirect aid re: those "Israel Bond" fund drives here in the US. Anyway, I only care about American interests and peace in the M.E. is in America's interest. If you think there will ever be any type of peace while Israel occupies the West Bank you're delusional.
Posted by: Not Mike Moore || 07/26/2003 17:23 Comments || Top||

#8  Does this "aid" come with a stipulation that 50% of it has to be spent on American goods? I think it does. In which case, think of it as transfer payments, to use an economic term.
Posted by: Rafael || 07/26/2003 18:27 Comments || Top||

#9  If you think there will ever be any type of peace while Israel occupies the West Bank you're delusional.

This is the land-for-peace argument that has been persued for 30 years, and has been a dismal failure. I could give a hundred examples of where Arabs/Muslims will NOT STOP until they removed/converted/liquadated all non-Arabs/non-Muslims, and this includes the West Bank where the christian community has shrunk to close to zero.

It is in the West's vital interests to stop this process and Israel looks as good a place as any to start.
Posted by: Phil B || 07/26/2003 19:03 Comments || Top||

#10  I think a Berlin-style Wall would be a GREAT idea

Bring it on! I will go over there and personally help them mix the concrete!

Perfect solution. Paleos on one side sitting in their squalor until they decide to restructure their society and solve their own problems, Israel on the other.

Only way for suicide bombers to get in is through a heavily fortified gate at which they are subject to searches.

End of suicide bombings, end of problem!

NMM: You'll BET Israel gets more direct aid because you DON'T KNOW why don't you do some research before you spread your opinions?

Zhang Fei: You are a legend
Posted by: Anon1 || 07/26/2003 23:34 Comments || Top||

Home Front
Delay Sez Democrats wear foil hats...
Good afternoon, or, as John Kerry might say: "Bonjour!"

I’m sure you’ve already heard a good many speakers today and will hear a bunch more after I’m done. So you’ll probably judge my speech more on its brevity than its persuasiveness. But that’s okay, because as you may have heard, we Republicans from Texas aren’t known for our el-o-qua-city.

But we are known for being clear. So in the interests of clarity, I have a simple message to pass along: the national Democrat party seems to have lost its marbles.
This is such an excellent speech. Good laughs, but some good, serious points about where the left is going these days.

Containment is not an option - to say nothing of appeasement. Terrorism will either be confronted - dead on - or it will destroy the free nations of the earth. But in the last 18 months, it has become clear that the extreme, Bush-hating wing of the Democrat Party has decided to either ignore or reject the fundamental realities of 21st century life. And rather than distance themselves from the hate, the party’s leaders have embraced it.

To try to gauge just how out of touch the Democrat leadership is on the war on terror, just close your eyes and try to imagine Ted Kennedy landing that Navy jet on the deck of that aircraft carrier. I don’t know about you, I certainly don’t want to see Teddy Kennedy in a Navy flight suit anytime soon.
Makes me shudder...

And now, the piece de resistance...
They’ve gone off the deep end. Consider:
  • Bob Graham - a respected former governor and chairman of the intelligence committee - is calling for the president’s impeachment.

  • John Edwards - a so-called moderate - compares the president to a dangerous socialist.

  • And Dennis Kucinich - a long-time member of Congress - now calls for legislation - I love this - to ban "mind control" weapons in outer space.
These ideas aren’t unpatriotic... they’re just weird. It makes you wonder if at their next presidential debate, the Democrats are all going to show up wearing aluminum-foil helmets to protect their brain waves from the mother ship! People who believe such things cannot be trusted with national leadership, period.
Guest poster note: Don’t know what I did to get that link way to the right. Sorry, whatever it was.
Posted by: badanov || 07/26/2003 8:14:15 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [345 views] Top|| File under:

#1  the Pack counterattacks the moonbats. 'bout frigging time. The Hammer can say things Bush and Cheney and Condi can't, puts the dwarves in their place, the far-left corner of the room, at the kids' table
Posted by: Frank G || 07/26/2003 8:27 Comments || Top||

#2  He actually said this!? That's awesome! The link doesn't appear to be working, though, and I'd like to see the whole story.
Posted by: eric || 07/26/2003 8:30 Comments || Top||

#3  eric - link
Posted by: PD || 07/26/2003 8:35 Comments || Top||

#4  Please, please, please let Tom DeLay come out of the closet and assume Hastert's position instead of being the puppet master! I'd love THAT face on the Republican party--he makes Newtie look like a great statesman and a centrist!
Posted by: Not Mike Moore || 07/26/2003 11:28 Comments || Top||

#5  "The Democrats' problem is not a lack of patriotism. It's a lack of seriousness."

Just so. If they want more chance than the proverbial snowball, they need to lay aside partisan bickering and cast aside the beauzeaux moonbats.
Posted by: Ri'Neref || 07/26/2003 12:09 Comments || Top||

#6  might DELAY care to enlighten us on his proud military record...where was he in Nam when America needed him....so dont go around calling people names...men my on father did three tours in Nam just so his brothers could never get called up...where was Delay....guess it vwas that bum knee again
Posted by: stevey robinson || 07/26/2003 13:31 Comments || Top||

#7  Here is a list of some of the phrases Delay used for democrats.

lost its marbles.
a potent electoral machine
no longer a serious force in the national debate.
an irrational, all-encompassing, broiling hatred of George W. Bush.
rented mules
lost in a time warp
tax like Mondale and spend like Carter.
their true Swinging-Seventies selves.
not a lack of patriotism
lack of seriousness
their current leadership unfit to face the serious challenges of the 21st century.

Are you reading the same article I am?

And If I have my choice between a reserve air force officer who didn't go into combat and a decorated veteran who has used the term 'regime change' for our very government, I will take the air force guy anytime. Veteran or not, those loudmouths who are running atop their record as a veteran espose policies which are detrimental to the security of the United States. They shame the nation and they shame the uniform they once wore.

By the way, shame on them.

But that is alright. I don't expect a democract to be concerned for the safety and well being of its citizens. I expect them to embrace policies and alliances which weaken America's defenses and open the gates to the barbarism of Marxism and Islam.
Posted by: badanov || 07/26/2003 15:10 Comments || Top||

#8  stevey - we hear a lot about your father - and he has our thanks, honest. Three tours is a bitch - and took more than a single 3 year hitch, given the req'd down time out of country.

But now you're raising the question about Delay, so it's fair game to send it back. What about you?
Posted by: PD || 07/26/2003 15:21 Comments || Top||

#9  Yeah, right Badanov--all of us Democrats are in a vast, left-wing conspiracy to convert the US into a Communist/Islamic state! Wouldn't the two be mutually exclusive? Maybe you need to smear us with either the Mullahs or the Marxists--but pick one! And if you think the majority of Americans appriove of a TEX-ASS Republican weasel like DeLay--I got a bridge for sale in Brooklyn.......
Posted by: Not Mike Moore || 07/26/2003 17:02 Comments || Top||

#10  Yeah, right Badanov--all of us Democrats are in a vast, left-wing conspiracy to convert the US into a Communist/Islamic state!

I already knew that!

Wouldn't the two be mutually exclusive? Maybe you need to smear us with either the Mullahs or the Marxists--but pick one!

Geee, I dunno. With diversity being the latest thing in democratic circles, I can see a scenario where only 'certain people' can have access to their own government, where others are squeezed out. So Marxists (democrats) amd Islamists (also democrats) can impose their views, much the way the 'diversity' crowd does it.

But right now, US Marxists are too weird and loopy to sell their ideas at election time. So hows about a little regime change, such as what Kerry was espousing? You could get into that, right? I mean you all hate Bush but only certain people who hate certain people are, well certain people, right? They are the ones who get to lord their military record over others, as long as they are 'certain people.' As long as they call for regime change and not to protect the United States.


Tell me I am wrong.
Posted by: badanov || 07/26/2003 18:56 Comments || Top||

Cleric says Iran not lying about nuclear programme
TEHRAN: A senior Iranian cleric on Friday insisted Tehran was not lying when it said its nuclear programme was peaceful
"Trust us..."
and said allowing UN inspectors to carry out tighter inspections in Iran would be “humiliating”.
"We just couldn't stand it. That's the only reason we're being truculent..."
International concern about Iran’s nuclear ambitions has prompted calls from Washington, the European Union, Russia, Japan and others for Tehran to sign up to more intrusive, short-notice checks of its nuclear facilities by inspectors. Iran’s government, while insisting its nuclear programme is merely aimed at generating electricity, has agreed to study the possibility of tougher inspections. But hardliners in the country have said they are fiercely opposed.
That's only one of the reasons they call 'em hard-liners...
“They want to come to our country and search every hole and everywhere, which would be humiliating and insulting for our country,” Ayatollah Mohammad Emami Kashani, told worshippers at Friday Prayers in Tehran. “They want to put the country at their mercy,” the cleric, who is a member of the conservative-leaning arbitration body the Expediency Council, said in a sermon broadcast live on state radio.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 07/26/2003 02:05 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [347 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ummmm, that last paragraph is confusing. Is Kashami bitching about airport security?
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 07/26/2003 2:14 Comments || Top||

#2  "They want to come to our country and search every hole...which would be humiliating..."

I'm sure that sounds waaay different in Farsi (or whatever language they speak in Iran). Nonetheless, I agree, it would be humiliating.
Posted by: Rafael || 07/26/2003 7:50 Comments || Top||

#3  Open Letter to the Eye-Ranian Turban Guys:

"Y'know this isn't fair. I mean, well, shit Mr Ayatollah, sir, it's just so darned easy to humiliate and insult Islam! I mean, uh, well sir, what I mean to say is that it's just about the most target-rich form of tomfoolery ever invented by man to survive more 'n, say, 10 or 20 minutes. If you folks in the black hats wuzn't such obvious total losers and self-serving asshats, with yer holier-than-thou asses status quo to protect, not to mention them fancy e-lectronic bank accounts you folks are filling up over in SwissLand nowadays, well hell, any sensible fella woulda tossed this 'slam turd in the crapper 10 or 12 centuries ago. Me 'n the Mrs talked about it last night - and cain't fer the life of us figger out how you fools lasted this long. Sheee-it. Must be a whole mess of mo-rons where yew come from. And talk about mercy, well Hells' bells, boy, you're still breathing ain'cha? Get a grip, whydoncha? If'n we were half as merciless as you Muslim types, your whole friggin' country would be glowin' in the dark, by now. So lighten up with all the skeery talk and pretendin' to be tough - and let them nice boys from the UN thing c'mon in and do their jobs. Yew startin' to sound zactly like them idiot NorKy guys I'm tasked to erase sometime in the next few (deleted). Shit. We kin save some gas and do ya both on the same run. Our Buffs kin carry a shitload of ordnance, y'know. So I'm jes telling ya to cool yer jets and keep yer pants on. Oh, fergot. Yew don't wear pants. Hell, maybe that's the problem. Hey, I dunno and it's no sweat off my nuts, either way, son. Yewr choice."

-Col. Billy Bob Latimer, Wing Commander, SAC
Posted by: PD || 07/26/2003 7:54 Comments || Top||

#4  keyboard alert would be appropriate PD - thx ;-)
Posted by: Frank G || 07/26/2003 8:10 Comments || Top||

#5  Frank G - I suddenly had Slim Pickens and Mineshaft Gaps pop into my head and well, you can see the mess that made of everything. For now, I'm blaming the use of the word truculent. That's a pretty evocative word, I think. Peshawar. Don't you? Peshawar. Prolly triggered a hidden, uh, trigger thing in my Peshawar brain. It's my story and Peshawar I'm sticking to it. I wonder if there are any Peshawar Bio-Anti-TSR treatments available... other Peshawar than shock thereapy, I mean, Peshawar. Dot com. (blink, blink) Reset.
Posted by: PD || 07/26/2003 9:24 Comments || Top||

Africa: North
General al Khoweldi al Hamidi meets with investors
General al Khoweldi al Hamidoi held a meeting in the Gambian capital Banjul yesterday with a number of Libyan investors in Gambia, who responded to the call by the Leader of the Revolution to go and invest in Africa, to benefit of the vast resources and potentiels, so as to benefit other nations and to establish a strong economic base in Africa. General al Khoweldi al Hamidi asked for briefings on the nature of the projects being tackled by the investors. He confirmed that the call for investment came from the Leader of the Revolution and requires a good investment mentality and awareness so as to ensure the exchange of benefits in all transparancy and in line with the new vision in invstment.
"I want you guys to get out there and buy Africa!"
General al Khoweldi al Hamidi indicated that the trend to invest in Africa is a daring revolutionary action. It is becoming a priority and all efforts must be exerted to that end, as this is the future of the continent. Meanwhile, the investors presented a pledge of allegiance and support to the Leader of the Revolution and re-affirmed that they are acting as faithful soldiers at his disposal.
I don't think Muammar has this capitalism thing down yet...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 07/26/2003 01:45 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [337 views] Top|| File under:

Muammar fixed Sao Tome
Who knows? It could even be true...
The intense efforts exerted by the Leader of the Revolution with his African brothers in respect of the events in Sao Tome and Principe, following the coup attempt there, have been crowned with the return of legitimacy to that African country, as announcement was made last night that President Fradick de Menzes is returning to the capital Sao Tome. Earlier, the Leader of the Revolution conducted phone calls and dispatched a special envoy to President Olusegon Obasanjo of Nigeria, President Omer Bongo of Gabon, President Dennis Sassou Ngissou of Congo Brazzaville and President Jouaquim Chissano of Mozambique, the current chairman of the African Union. In this respect, the Leader of the Revolution received a personal envoy from President Obasanjo of Nigeria, who delivered to the Leader a message related to the situation in the two states of Liberia and Sao Tome and Prinicpe.
Yep. That explains it all...
It was asserted that the African Union has to assume its role in ensuring peace and stability across Africa and prevent any foreign interference in the African affairs particularly as Africans are now capable, through the African Union and its institutions, of solving their problems within an African context, and they do not need other foriegners interfernce.
And a damned fine job they're doing of it...
During his contacts and through the envoys, the Leader of the Revolution re-affirmed to African leaders the need for the return of legitimacy to this part of the African continent and not allow the putchists remain in power, under any case, as this is against the national inteest of this African country and against the national interests of the whole of Africa.
"Us Leaders of the Revolutions ain't really into regime change, y'know? Not once the regime's actually been changed..."
The Leader confirmed that the use of force to sieze power is unacceptable and illigitimate.
Muammar, of course, didn't use force to sieze power. The Revolution™ was delivered by munchkins from the Lollipop Guild...
It goes against the interests of any people and legitimacy must be restored by the Africans themselves. Meanwhile, the African leaders have expressed their appreciation for the efforts exerted by the Leader of the Revolution follwing the coup in Sao Tome and Principe, in accordance with article 30 of the constitutive act of the African Union and the resolutions of Algiers summit. They confirmed that the efforts of the Leader of the Revlution had a great impact in pressurizing the putchists in order to submit to the African will and accept the return of the legitimate President Fradick de Menzis.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 07/26/2003 01:40 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [348 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Muammar's been into the med cabinet again...
Posted by: mojo || 07/26/2003 1:53 Comments || Top||

#2  Lets see...Liberia,Ivory Cost,Zimbabwe.Better get with the program Muammar.
Posted by: raptor || 07/26/2003 6:59 Comments || Top||

#3  What's up with the fatal cancer that Mo supposedly had? I'm gonna lose big in a Dead Pool if he doesn't become Leader of the Revolutionary Dirt Nap™ really soon
Posted by: Frank G || 07/26/2003 7:55 Comments || Top||

#4  So, Frankie baby, how much skin you got in this game? I've got some time on my hands and, well, with the easing of travel restrictions... Make me an offer, bro...
Posted by: PD || 07/26/2003 14:18 Comments || Top||

#5  $100 bucks - and I bit on the Mo cancer story in a big way. He's never looked healthy, even with that fem-bot security detail he has. Watch the machine guns in the jumblies PD lol
Posted by: Frank G || 07/26/2003 16:10 Comments || Top||

Hezbollah: US troops face defeat in Iraq
US occupation troops in Iraq face defeat, a senior political official of Lebanon's radical Shiite movement Hezbollah predicted Thursday. "The Americans must know that defeat awaits their 250,000 troops in Iraq and not victory," Ibrahim Amin as-Sayyed said in a speech in the southern port city of Sidon. "It was God's will for their forces to be gathered over there so as to be defeated," he said. Just as "God wanted the Zionists to be gathered in Palestine to be defeated." Sayyed said Hezbollah was not concerned by the US pressure on Syria and Iran to halt their support for the movement, whose fighters were widely credited for Israel's pullout from south Lebanon in May 2000 after 22 years of occupation. Given the strength of Hezbollah, the United States and Israel should "stop and think a thousand times before doing any damage to Lebanon", he warned.
"There ain't nobody tougher'n we are, so don't even think about doin' nuttin'!"
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 07/26/2003 01:28 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [341 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "YAR!"
Posted by: mojo || 07/26/2003 1:45 Comments || Top||

#2  Well maybe Mr. Al-Sahh^H^H^H^H^H^H^Has-Sayyed should send his forces to Iraq to fight the Yanks then if his gang of thugs is so big and bad. After the floor gets wiped with his scumbags, Israel will have one less terrorist organization to worry about.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 07/26/2003 1:50 Comments || Top||

#3  The Mouse That Roared - again and again and again.

What's truly amazing to me is that, given Allah's track record, they still swallow and spew (or is that spew and swallow. Hey, I like wymyn - oh, nevermind...) this tripe. The 250K troops "gathered" (What a fucking moron: gathered... no wonder they get their asses handed to them regularly, they fail to even recognize that America has a bona-fide leader willing to use the power of his nation...) to stomp the piss out of a dictator who played the "I'm a Sunni" and "I Love the Pals" cards when it suited him, and a murderous thug dictator when that suited him. Allah has been on the sidelines for a long, long time, Ibi. You just took credit for being in the right place at the right time when the sine wave of Israeli public opinion finally pulled out the troops.

Hezbollah couldn't stand against an army of one on its best day, going downhill, with the wind behind it - unless his back was turned. But don't get a clue, puhleeze, we want a good shot at you before you catch on.

I still see Syria as a two-fer... take them out and you get Lebanon as a bonus - and just think about the benefits of taking out a primary breeding ground and staging area for these assholes. SyrLeb is such a juicy target that I'd bet the neocons are like your dog begging for a piece of bacon - their whole body's a' waggin...
Posted by: PD || 07/26/2003 2:10 Comments || Top||

#4  Allah has been having a lousy track record of late. He lost Afghanistan, and now Iraq, it looks like Iran is going to fall, leaving essentially the House of Saud all alone.

Or maybe that is all Allah's plan in the first place. Maybe Allah got sick and tired of the murderous butchers claiming to act in his name and decided to change sides.
Posted by: Ben || 07/26/2003 4:49 Comments || Top||

#5  As far as I know Hezbollah still has an artillery/MRL park about fifty miles inside of Lebanon. Don't these guys understand how quickly and totally they can be wrecked by artillery and MRL?

They need to give it up and go home. Find a nice girl, get married; raise a family. Don't make us deal with you.
Posted by: badanov || 07/26/2003 7:37 Comments || Top||

#6  That's right, Mr. Ibrahim Amin as-Sayyed, it's Allah's will that we are gathered in Iraq to be defeated by Hezbollah. Come and get us. Come on, now, don't be shy...
Posted by: Dave D. || 07/26/2003 9:19 Comments || Top||

Africa: West
Mercenaries given go-ahead to abduct Liberian leader
The internationally backed War Crimes Tribunal in Sierra Leone has given the green light for mercenaries to arrest the Liberian President, Charles Taylor - if they can raise their own funds for the operation and deliver him across the border. "We would not turn down anybody legitimate - whether government, international organisation or private company - who can deliver Charles Taylor or any other fugitive of justice," Alan White, the court’s chief of investigation, said on Thursday. But while encouraging bounty-hunters, Mr White made it clear he was not offering a payout. "We won’t pay anybody. We’re not in a financial position to do that and would not engage in that anyway."
Just a few hundred bucks can go a long way in that part of the world...
Posted by: Paul Moloney || 07/26/2003 1:19:29 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [440 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I think we can spare ten grand and expenses for this moron.
Posted by: Hiryu || 07/26/2003 11:12 Comments || Top||

#2  I'll ante up. Who's passing the cup?
Posted by: Steve White || 07/26/2003 22:44 Comments || Top||

US sends warships to Liberia
President George W Bush has ordered United States warships to take up positions off the coast of Liberia. The BBC reports the warships will be used to support the expected deployment of West African peacekeepers in Monrovia. President Bush’s announcement came as mortar bombs pound Monrovia in fighting between the Government and rebels that threatens a humanitarian disaster. Shortly after Mr Bush's announcement, the rebels declared an immediate cease-fire but vowed to defend their positions, after a day in which shells struck schools crammed with refugees, killing at least 14 people and wounding scores more. A Reuters correspondent in Monrovia says he could still hear fighting, including the sound of mortar bombs, after the cease-fire declaration. Previous truces have not held for long.
Nothing personal. It's just tradition, kind of like cutting off limbs...
The rebels and forces loyal to President Charles Taylor have been battling for a week for control of the coastal capital.
Can't be much longer...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 07/26/2003 01:17 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [343 views] Top|| File under:

Africa: North
Casablanca Trial of 35 Extremists Starts
Lawyers representing three of the 52 suspected militants on trial here for a string of blasts that rocked Casablanca in May argued yesterday that their clients’ legal rights had been violated. A total of 35 defendants appeared in court, massed behind a bulletproof glass, to face charges of criminal association, undermining internal state security, sabotage, murder and intention to cause injury.
To say nothing of the legal rights of their victims...
Five nearly simultaneous explosions struck Casablanca, the North African kingdom’s largest city and commercial capital, on May 16. While the attacks were aimed at foreign and Jewish targets, most of the victims were Moroccan nationals. A total of 52 suspected members of a banned radical group, the Salafia Jihadia, are on trial over the attacks. One of the suspected militants yesterday pleaded innocent, saying he played no part in the devastating attacks last May that killed 44 people including 12 assailants. “I reject all of these accusations. I deny them,” said 23-year-old Mohamed El-Omari. “I haven’t killed anyone.”
"Nope. Nope. Wudn't me."
Omari was arrested that same night outside one of the target spots, a hotel where the bodies of 12 suicide bombers were discovered. Along with Omari, a night security guard also called Abou Zoubeir, the two other men accused of being would-be suicide attackers are Rachid Jalil, a 27-year-old welder alias Abou Anas, and 22-year-old street vendor Yassine Lahnech, alias Abou Ibrahim.
"I didn't kill nobody, I tells ya! I think the daggone fuse was wet..."
The trial first opened on Monday but was immediately suspended to give the defense more time to prepare its arguments. After the new session resumed yesterday, 19 of them once again were granted a postponement after the defense argued it had still not been able to prepare its case and meet its clients. But the three accused were denied any postponement of their case.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 07/26/2003 01:09 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [880 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "to give the defense more time to prepare its arguments"
Read: they needed more time to find an Imam willing to buck the "Govt" and issue a fatwa to cover their asses.

As for whether these are the right guys we'll never know for sure here in Rantburg. BUT... unless young King Mumble-Mumble has done a 180, these guys are toast.
Posted by: PD || 07/26/2003 1:32 Comments || Top||

“I reject all of these accusations. I deny them,” said 23-year-old Mohamed El-Omari. “I haven’t killed anyone.”

"Well," stated El-Omari sheepishly, "that's almost true. I didn't intend to kill anyone. Not anyone human, at least. Just those nasty infidels and kaffir."

Judging that El-Omari had suffered enough, and in accordance with the Shari'ah, Imam Jihadi ibn Muhammad issued a fatwa extolling El-Omari and his associates as soldiers of the Umma and declaring any judgement brought against them invalid.
"Look, we can't send these guys to jail," he said. "They made a mistake. Their hearts were in the right place."
Posted by: Celissa || 07/26/2003 2:27 Comments || Top||

Home Front
Sami al-Arian fires attorneys
A former professor indicted on terrorism charges fired his attorneys Friday and will represent himself, despite a judge's warning that he was making a foolish and potentially disastrous move. Sami Al-Arian is still hoping to raise enough money to hire Washington attorney William Moffitt, but if he fails, he will have to go it alone when his case goes to trial in about 18 months.
I suspect the money will appear from... somewhere.
Al-Arian was indicted earlier this year. The U.S. government accuses him of being the North American head of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad. He faces life in prison if convicted. U.S. District Judge Thomas McCoun repeatedly warned Al-Arian of the dangers of firing his court-appointed attorneys, but Al-Arian insisted he can handle his own defense. "He made his decision. I hope he has as much fun being a lawyer as I do," said attorney Frank Louderback, who was appointed to represent Al-Arian along with attorney Jeffrey Brown. "It's hard to describe what he has got himself into."
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 07/26/2003 00:59 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [335 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hey, he's perfectly safe. All he has to do is pick some juicy selections from the Koran / Quran / Qu'ran / Qu'uran and the jury will be forced to acquit him. It is the Literal Truth, after all, right?

And that brings up Jury selection. That is the key to successfully prosecuting these assholes. Expect CAIR, ISM, et al to be very active in making sure that he (and all future fuckwads of his ilk) gets a "fair" jury of his "peers" - which prolly means it must be 100% composed of Paki immigrants.

It should be obvious that many Muslim Orgs in the West have figured it out: to defeat a Free society, you don't need to take up arms, you merely figure out how manipulate it against itself. And this is where we need to hold the line domestically - and stop bending over backward to keep from offending this most sensitive, yet intolerant, of "religions."
Posted by: PD || 07/26/2003 1:15 Comments || Top||

#2  This tactic is working for Moussouai so far.
Posted by: seafarious || 07/26/2003 1:36 Comments || Top||

Russian police detain suspects in 1998 kidnap of French aid worker
Main police directorate for the Southern Federal District has officially confirmed the detention of two suspects in the abduction of Vincent Cochetel, a French national, in Ingushetia. Spokesman for the department Alexander Lukyakhov told Interfax that the suspects were detained during detective and investigative efforts by a North Ossetia-Alania police group and an Interior Ministry mobile force in Ingushetia. "Akhmed Yevloyev, born in 1963 and who has a criminal record, and Liza Muradova, born in 1969, were detained in the town of Karabulak, Ingushetia, as suspects in Cochetel's abduction," Lukyanov said. The investigation has established that after the abduction Cochetel was kept in an apartment rented by Yevloyev and Muradova in the town of Sernovodsk, in Chechnya's Achkhoi-Martan district. The detainees are being interrogated.
Ouch. Sounds very painful.
Cochetel, head of an UNHCR office, was abducted in Vladikavkaz in January 1998. He was freed 11 months later in an operation conducted by law-enforcement bodies.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 07/26/2003 00:43 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [345 views] Top|| File under:

Amnesty chief is denied India visa
The Indian government has denied a visa to the secretary-general of Amnesty International without giving a reason, officials from the London-based human rights group said yesterday.
"No reason. We just don't like her. Sorry."
Vijay Nagaraj, an Amnesty official in India, confirmed that the group's secretary-general, Irene Khan Zubeida, had been denied a visa. He said he could not comment further.
"I can say no more..."
Amnesty International has written critical reports about the conduct of Indian security forces in Kashmir and the lack of police intervention in religious riots in Gujarat last year in which more than 1,000 people, mostly Muslims, were killed. "We don't want to make any big statements about it. It is not a secret that Amnesty International has had many difficulties to get access to India," Amnesty spokeswoman Magda Kowalczuk said in London. She confirmed that Zubeida had been scheduled to visit the Amnesty International office in New Delhi from July 9, and said negotiations with the government were going on so the trip could be made 'sometime soon." The Times of India said the group had issued a report earlier this month claiming Indians' constitutional rights continued to be violated in Gujarat.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 07/26/2003 00:25 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [429 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Which rights? Which constitution, for that matter?

These guys can be kinda confusing at times.
Posted by: mojo || 07/26/2003 0:51 Comments || Top||

#2  Now this is funny shit. I can't imagine why India wouldn't just be as pleased as punch to have some self-appointed unaccountable group (which has declared itself as the definitive expert on human rights and drags around an agenda a mile long and has proven they are about as impartial as your dear old Mum) send a high-ranking rep. Sheesh! One might get the wrong impression and think she might be looking to advance the AI agenda. No. 'Course not. Nothing to see here. Move along. Move along.
Posted by: PD || 07/26/2003 1:47 Comments || Top||

#3  she could always visit sunny Pakistan next door where human rights are held in such high regard: particularly THOSE OF WOMEN
Posted by: Anon1 || 07/26/2003 3:18 Comments || Top||

#4  Anon1 - There are prolly no 4 or 5 Star hotels in PakiLand. Can't go there. Check your Michelin Guide, I'm pretty sure of this...
Posted by: PD || 07/26/2003 6:08 Comments || Top||

#5  {Star Trek joke}


{/Star Trek Joke}
Posted by: badanov || 07/26/2003 7:41 Comments || Top||

#6  Amnesty International is an organisation that started out by agitating for personal liberty and the right to hold any opinions you wish. It has since been captured and corrupted by leftists and islamicists. It trades on and in the process destroys the previously good name of AI.
Posted by: Phil B || 07/26/2003 9:18 Comments || Top||

#7  PD sez: "(which has declared itself as the definitive expert on human rights and drags around an agenda a mile long and has proven they are about as impartial as your dear old Mum)"

And they care about human rights about as much as Sirius Black's mum did.
Posted by: Ri'Neref || 07/26/2003 9:41 Comments || Top||

#8  Ri'Neref - Wow - you must be angling for the Dennis Miller Arcane Minutia El Supremo Deluxe Award! I had to go to Google (I'm not much of a Potter guy) and read for 30 minutes to "get it" - so I get it, now. Whew!
Posted by: PD || 07/26/2003 10:37 Comments || Top||

#9  Muggle
Posted by: Frank G || 07/26/2003 12:05 Comments || Top||

#10  ;-) didn't read the latest Potter huh PD?
Posted by: Frank G || 07/26/2003 16:36 Comments || Top||

#11  "Charm THIS, muggle-baiter!" (blam, blam)
Posted by: mojo || 07/26/2003 17:11 Comments || Top||

#12  Expelliarmus!
Posted by: Anon1 || 07/26/2003 22:50 Comments || Top||

Africa: West
Sao Tome Coup Leaders Reinstate Deposed President
Never mind!
Barely a week after a coup in Sao Tome and Principe, that sacked the democratically elected president, the military junta ceded to international pressure yesterday and allowed President Fradiqe de Menezes to come home amidst a red carpet reception. De Menezes, who was in Nigeria at the time of the July 16 putsch, shook hands with international mediators after stepping onto a red carpet from a jet that touched down at an airport outside the capital. De Menezes returned shortly after mediators announced that coup leaders had agreed to restore democratic rule on the twin island state, which is hoping to join Africa's club of oil exporters by around 2007. "An agreement has been reached, the president has signed an accord restoring legality and democratic rule," Gabon's Foreign Minister Jean Ping told reporters in Sao Tome.
"Nothing but a little misunderstanding among friends. Forget we ever said anything..."
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 07/26/2003 00:15 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [346 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "signed an accord"
Huh? What need was there for this? What a load. Either you have legality and democratic rule - or ya don't. A new "accord" implies something was amiss... Or it was a "You're all pardoned" in exchange for "Oops. Uh, ok, you can come back, now, we're sorry." If this, then they don't have legality and demo rule. You can't just kiss & make up with seditionists, else you've proved that you, and the system you represent, are not to be taken seriously - and it's open season anytime someone figures they have a shot.

Pfeh. Pseudo-Democracy. Not the same thing as the real thing. Nope, you fail. Buzz off, little bullshitocracy.
Posted by: PD || 07/26/2003 5:56 Comments || Top||

Africa: Southern
Bob to step down from Zanu-PF leadership?
PRESIDENT Robert Mugabe is ready to relinquish the Zanu PF leadership in December or to hand over power to a transitional authority if a deal is reached with the opposition Movement for Democratic Change (MDC), it was heard this week.
Another tease. He's waiting to see what happens with Chuck...
Sources said Mugabe assured South African President Thabo Mbeki that he could quit the Zanu PF leadership in December during the party's annual conference or formally announce to his party to start looking for a successor ahead of the congress next year. Mugabe gave Mbeki these assurances ahead of United States President George Bush's first visit to Africa early this month. Mugabe also gave the same promises to Mbeki's deputy Jacob Zuma during an Aids conference in Lesotho a few days before Bush arrived in South Africa. Zuma has been working on the Zimbabwe issue of late. On June 4 he met with Democratic Alliance leader Tony Leon and his delegation at Tuynhuys in Cape Town to discuss Zimbabwe. Zuma and Leon agreed the situation could only be resolved through dialogue between the MDC and Zanu PF. Sources said Mugabe met with Zuma in Lesotho to reaffirm the position he had already given to Mbeki. Mugabe apparently spoke to Mbeki before and after the Bush visit and during the African Union meeting in Mozambique. Mbeki met with Bush in Pretoria on July 9 where he reportedly told his counterpart that Mugabe had indicated his willingness to retire. However, Mbeki, who recently said Zanu PF was engaged in "leadership renewal" and that talks between Zanu PF and MDC were on, last week denied this. "There is no such thing," he said. "I don't know where that comes from. There was no discussion at all about anybody stepping down."
"Nope. Nope. Never happened."
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 07/26/2003 00:11 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [345 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Uh-oh.
Posted by: Ri'Neref || 07/26/2003 12:33 Comments || Top||

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  Indo brigadier killed in camp attack
Tue 2003-07-22
  Uday & Qusay: Doorknob dead!
Mon 2003-07-21
  Paleos Outlaw Violent Groups. Really.
Sun 2003-07-20
  Militias hold off rebels in Liberian capital
Sat 2003-07-19
  Liberia rebels take key bridge
Fri 2003-07-18
  Al-Aqsa Brigades demand Yasser dissolve Abbas gov't
Thu 2003-07-17
  North, South Korea Soldiers Exchange Fire
Wed 2003-07-16
  Abdullah Shreidi decomposing in Ein el-Hellhole
Tue 2003-07-15
  Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades Claims Attack on Nightclub
Mon 2003-07-14
  Paleos threaten violence if disarmed. Huh?
Sun 2003-07-13
  Chechen boom mastermind no longer ticklish
Sat 2003-07-12
  135 killed in Burundi rebel assault

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