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Afghanistan
Taliban kill 4 US troops in Uruzgan
Islamic militants killed four US soldiers in the restive southern Afghan province of Uruzgan, the US military said.

The soldiers, who were patrolling with Afghan troops on Monday, were killed when a bomb went off under their vehicle. The patrol then came under fire from the militants before US air support was called in.

Remnants of the ousted Taliban regime late Sunday ambushed two vehicles belonging to Afghan security forces, killing three of the security personnel and kidnapping five in the southern province of Helmand, senior police said on Monday. A Taliban spokesman said they had killed all eight policemen. Only three bodies have been found so far.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/14/2006 01:28 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [314 views] Top|| File under:

#1  These Taliban remnants are obviously starting to get some professional military guidance. This explains their recent, if modest, improvements in lethality. However, it is "a day late and a dollar short".
Posted by: Anonymoose || 02/14/2006 11:22 Comments || Top||


Africa Horn
Hard Boyz planned to hit African soccer match
Three of the five suspects arrested by local detectives and their Interpol counterparts over alleged plans of a terrorist attack targeting Cairo, Egypt, are Kenyans.

The three young men are of Somali descent and work for a transport company that has offices in Wajir and Nairobi's Eastleigh estate.

They went to Kenyan schools and have been working in the country.

The five suspects were questioned by Kenyan Anti-Terrorism Police Unit detectives and Interpol officers on Saturday, Sunday and yesterday.

The investigators are interested in the suspects' connection with a prime suspect who has not been arrested.

Preliminary investigations by both Pretoria and Cairo security agents have allegedly established that the Kenyan suspects continuously communicated on mobile phones with their South African and Egyptian counterparts.

Transcripts of the telephone conversations among suspects in the alleged international network have already been obtained.

The suspects, who are being held at various police stations in the city and its outskirts, were arrested following intelligence reports from Interpol in Pretoria, South Africa, and Cairo.

Their relatives visited the CID headquarters but were not allowed to talk to them.

Although the Kenyan security agents are being praised internationally for foiling the Cairo terror attack that would have been executed on Friday, the day Egypt was hosting the African Cup of Nations football tournament finals, police spokesman Jasper Ombati and the anti-terrorism police boss Ireri Kamwende yesterday declined to comment about the arrests.

According to Cape Times, South African crime intelligence agents helped thwart plans for a terrorist attack at the African Cup of Nations soccer final in Egypt.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/14/2006 01:52 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [324 views] Top|| File under:

#1  And I thought the British soccer fans were bad!
Posted by: Glenmore || 02/14/2006 7:40 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Al-Ahdal on trial in Yemen
The trial of a man suspected of being the al-Qaeda number two in Yemen has begun in the capital, Sanaa. Saudi-born Mohammed Hamdi al-Ahdal is accused of killing 19 Yemeni security officers as well as financing al-Qaeda and helping an armed group. The trial comes shortly after 23 convicts, including members of al-Qaeda, escaped from prison in Sanaa.

Mohammed Hamdi al-Ahdal was captured in 2003 by Yemeni security forces and his arrest was hailed by Yemeni and US officials as a major blow to al-Qaeda's operational capacity in Yemen. Yemeni security officials believe that al-Ahdal was working directly for the al-Qaeda leader in Yemen, Qaed Senyan al-Harthi, who was killed by a US missile fired from an unpiloted aircraft in 2002.

A second man, Ghaleb Abdullah al-Zayedi, has also been charged with hiding al-Ahdal. Both al-Ahlad and al-Zayedi deny all the charges.

Monday's proceedings began amid tight security.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/14/2006 01:23 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [299 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I find the reference to tight security of note. I wonder, does it really matter if he's convicted, since they can't seem to keep anyone incarcerated, there?
Posted by: Snaish Flaving9011 || 02/14/2006 7:23 Comments || Top||


Bangladesh
Tales from the Crossfire Gazette
2 killed in 'crossfire'

Two alleged criminals including an extremist leader were killed in separate incidents of crossfire between the law enforcing agencies at Khilgaon, Dhaka and Daulatpara in Khulna district yesterday. The deceased were identified as Ilias alias Tepa alias Imran (30) and Asaduzzaman Babu (22), of Maluya village under Vedorganj upazila in Shariatpur.
They killed Babu!
The DB police arrested Ilias on the Dhaka University campus Sunday night and took him to Meradia to recover hidden arms and arrest his accomplices.
Jumped right from Step One to Step Four? No interagation? No confession?

Police sources said, a team of DB along with Ilias went to Meradia Budhbarer Hat in Dhaka to recover arms and arrest his accomplices at around 2.25 am yesterday.
"Come along, Ilias. We's taking a drive"
Sensing their presence
"Sniff, sniff, I smell doughnuts. It's da cops!"
criminals fired on policemen
"Open wildly inacurate fire!"
who also retaliated
"Hold him still..."
and Ilias was shot dead
"Ouch.....rosebud..."
while he was trying to flee. The body of the terrorist was sent to the morgue of Dhaka Medical College Hospital (DMCH) for autopsy.
"Put him in the freezer, Sam. I'll get to him later"

Asaduzzaman Babu, a close aide of notorious criminal Ershad Shikdar, was arrested on Friday at Badda in Dhaka and handed over to Khulna Rapid Action Battalion (Rab).
He's doomed
Following his confessional statement, Rab-6 conducted a drive in Daulatpur area of Khulna early Monday ...
How early?
... to recover arms and arrest his accomplices.
Where, not unexpectedly.....
Rab sources said when the team reached Daulatpur, the accomplices of Babu made a gun attack on the law enforcers.
"It's the RAB! And they've got Babu! Quick, open fire!"
The Rab men also opened fire and Babu died in 'crossfire'.
Yeah, we don't "believe" it either

Rab recovered a gun with three bullets from the spot. Babu, an alleged commander of Purba Banglar Communist Party, was accused in several criminal cases including one for murder.
Commies get a bullet in the head, islamists get tea and cookies
Posted by: || 02/14/2006 07:42 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [320 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Guess the commies don't riot after every crossfire. Mebbe they oughta.
Posted by: Seafarious || 02/14/2006 11:08 Comments || Top||


JMB threatens to kill judge
Banned Islamist outfit Jama'atul Mujahideen Bangladesh (JMB) has threatened to kill Dinajpur district judge and members of his family and blow up his residence within February 23.

Judge Md Motiur Rahman received a letter sent by post Saturday afternoon. The letter asked the judge to practice 'Law of Allah', otherwise he would be blown up by February 23 along with his family members.

When contacted, Motiur Rahman admitted receiving the letter and said he filed a General Diary with Dinajpur Police Station. He, however, said that he would continue going to the court at Dinajpur Circuit House. He further informed that he earlier received twice such letter of threat from JMB in the last three months.

Meanwhile, Dinajpur police on Saturday arrested a suspected member of JMB from Setabganj upazila.

Moniruzzaman, 19, son of Mokshed Ali of village Nashratpur under Chirirbandar upazila of Dinajpur was later sent to Dinajpur jail.

JMB suicide bomber Obaidur Rahman Babu in a statement at the court of Subdivisional Magistrate of Murshidabad district in West Bengal last Wednesday (February 8) confessed to his involvement in the serial bomb blasts in Dhaka, Gazipur and Chittagong districts.

The Murshidabad district SP Niroj Singh told Kolkata jouranlists that the JMB suicide bomber was quizzed in remand for 16 days.

Obaidur Rahman, who was arrested by Indian police on January 22 from Jorhagacha village under Raghunathganj thana of Murshidabad district, was sent to Murshidabad district Jail after recording of confessional statement by the court, said a top police source in Khulna.

Police on Tuesday arrested one person suspecting him to be Siddiqur Rahman alias Bangla Bhai, chief of outlawed JMJB, from the Mymensingh Railway Station.

Later he was identified as Kahit Ifttekhar Ahmed, 48, son of the late Mir Fayek Ali, a resident of Khalishpur Residential Area in Khulna. He was released from Kotwali police station at 3 pm the next day.

Being informed that Bangla Bhai was travelling by Teesta inter-city train to Dhaka from Dinajpur, police cordoned off the Teesta train and checked all the compartments at 6 pm and nabbed Iftekhar Ahmed as he resembled Bangla Bhai.

He was taken to Kotwali police station and interrogated by police. He was found to be a look-alike and released, police said.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/14/2006 01:51 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [318 views] Top|| File under:


Europe
Istanbul explosion injures 6
A huge blast, believed to be caused by a bomb, rocked a supermarket in Istanbul on Monday, wounding six people, local media reported.

Istanbul Governor Muammer Guler was quoted by the semi-official Anatolia news agency as saying that six people were wounded in the blast, one of whom in critical condition. Guler told reporters along with Istanbul Police Chief Celalettin Cerrah that an investigation into the cause of the blast was currently underway, adding "it seems to be caused by a device that exploded."

Earlier, the private NTV cited Guler as accusing Kurdish militants of carrying out the attack.

The explosion took place at a supermarket in the Bahcelievler district of Istanbul, which is Turkey's largest city and popular tourism destination, said Anatolia, adding that the entrance to the two-storey shop was badly damaged. No group has claimed responsibility so far.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/14/2006 01:46 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [305 views] Top|| File under:


Fissures appear within Balkan Islam
For Muslims in this small Balkan country, the Ottoman Empire's Islamic legacy still endures. However, some say Arab rivals are seeking to undermine it.

"When my cousin entered university in Saudi Arabia, the Wahhabis offered him 200 euros a month and an apartment if he would spread their customs back in Macedonia," says Blerim, a young ethnic Albanian and Muslim who didn't want to give his last name for security reasons. "He accepted, and my uncle is quite concerned."

The tensions in Blerim's family are being felt throughout Macedonia's growing Muslim community ahead of its elections later this month for a new national leader, or reis. Tapping into young Muslims' disdain for the older generation, which many see as corrupt, bureaucratic, and uneducated, fundamentalists - pejoratively referred to as Wahhabis - are turning some in the younger generation toward more conservative interpretations of Islam.

"Some of our students in the Arabic world do consider [the Arab] version of Islam as more authentic," concedes Muhamed Zeqiri, a young Albanian journalist and graduate of Macedonia's Kondovo madrassah. "However, the extremists can't establish a foothold here - Muslims here are pro-Western, and prefer the moderate Ottoman tradition."

Ferid Muhic, a widely respected philosophy professor, agrees, saying "the Wahhabi lifestyle is just too ascetic for most people's tastes."

Yet, since Macedonia's independence in 1991, the fundamentalists have established a small but persistent presence. With their long black beards and wives veiled head-to-toe in black, they are conspicuous in this fairly liberal society. Their secrecy and self-isolation have also raised suspicions of outside funding.

"They don't have jobs, yet somehow they survive, " says Vebija Fejzulovski, a TV director in the southwestern village of Labunishta. "And their families live well here while [the men] are off for months in Pakistan or Afghanistan."

In a country with numerous social ills, most choose to let the fundamentalists be, perhaps for good reason. When another young Albanian journalist, who did not want to be named, started investigating their funding, he was warned to "think about your family first."

Professor Muhic says many fundamentalists are "just kids going through a phase," but they nevertheless have raised concerns internationally. In December 2004, French terrorism expert Claude Moniquet of the Brussels-based European Strategic Intelligence and Security Center claimed that up to 100 fundamentalists "who are dangerous and linked to terrorist organizations" were operating in Macedonia. Other Macedonian and European security officials surveyed since agree that a small group of local Muslims, exposed to fundamentalism in Muslim states or by Arab proselytizers, are quietly promoting extremist goals.

"We, and our foreign colleagues also, don't consider Macedonia a terrorist target," says one Macedonian intelligence officer, speaking on the condition of anonymity. "We are more worried about being used as a logistics or recruitment base for attacks in the West. We are monitoring some of these Wahhabis closely."

Adding that Al Qaeda has financial links with local crime gangs, Mr. Moniquet in 2004 accused the most powerful Muslim in Skopje, Zenun Berisha, of supporting "very radical Islam." As chief mufti of Macedonia's capital, Mr. Berisha staffed mosques and the Macedonia Islamic Community (IVZ) administration with fundamentalists.

And because his followers still partially control IVZ funds, imams such as Abdurahim Yashari, who "refused to worship Zenun Berisha," haven't been paid in years. A former interior minister, Pavle Trajanov, who worked with Berisha in the late 1990s, insists, however, that Moniquet's allegations against Berisha were "propaganda" by ethnic Albanian political rivals.

Last summer, an armed attack on moderate clerics - which the clerics blamed on those close to Berisha - shook the IVZ leadership. However, political pressure from the major ethnic Albanian parties helped restore order, and last week Acting Mufti Taxhedin Bislimi won a commanding victory in a preliminary election round. Mr. Berisha withdrew just before the voting.

Mr. Bislimi, who was among the clerics attacked last summer, says he believes the fundamentalists are now unmoored. Saying they have "turned on Berisha, probably because he couldn't pay them," he dismisses them as "uneducated and impressionable - some have drug problems or criminal records."

Bislimi and the IVZ are also troubled by sensationalized local media reports that have hurt Muslims' image. "Because of a few hotheads, we've all been given a bad reputation," he laments.

Indeed, many Muslims feel they are being unfairly tarnished by biased media. Remzi Isaku, a young, soft-spoken imam from the northern village of Saraj, says such "propaganda" ignores the fact that most young Muslims - even foreign-trained, bearded ones such as himself - are progressive and committed to revitalizing Ottoman traditions.

"I know my people and our legacy very well," says Isaku, after leading prayers. "An Arab professor once told me, 'I couldn't be imam in your place - your people have a different mind-set.' It's true. And I couldn't serve in his place, either."

If foreign money originally fueled fundamentalism in Macedonia, squabbling among Muslim elders has kept it alive, says Professor Muhic. If the IVZ can purge troublemakers and resolve its disputes, he says, fundamentalism will eventually "either disappear or continue only in isolated small communities."

According to Isaku, stability depends on younger imams who are well educated - and thus have credibility in the eyes of youths. "Correct Islamic teaching is the key," he says. "It resolves social problems, and it prevents radicalism."
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/14/2006 01:40 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [303 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I wish people would stop referring to the Wahhabi form of Islam as "conservative," when really it's about as radical a departure from traditional, ie truly conservative Islam, as it's possible to be.
Posted by: trailing wife || 02/14/2006 7:33 Comments || Top||

#2  Go fissure!
Posted by: Besoeker || 02/14/2006 8:09 Comments || Top||

#3  The Wahabbis also want into Macedonia because they realize what everybody else has long known: Macedonia is the region's "trigger". Efforts to destabilize Macedonia could potentially result in the whole region going up in flames, which is what the Wahabbis really want.

However, the powerful forces that do not want this to happen have done and continue to do many things to help insure that Macedonia is a peaceful, pleasant place, with no regional army daring to try and snatch it.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 02/14/2006 11:19 Comments || Top||

#4  pejoratively referred to as Wahhabis

Why is that pejorative? The Wahhabs are real. It's not a nickname or anything.
Posted by: Seafarious || 02/14/2006 11:24 Comments || Top||

#5  Wahhabis usually don't refer to themselves as such because it sort of helps to deflate their contention that they are the only true Islamic sects since the Wahhabis were only founded in the 1800s. If our leaders were serious about drawing distinctions between good/bad Muslims, they'd stop using meaningless phrases like "extremist, militant, or the ever-popular Islamist" and start referring to actual sects and ideologies like Wahhabism, Deobandism, Salafism, and Khomeinism. I notice that countries fighting terrorism that actually maintain sizeable Muslim populations (Russia, India) are a lot better about this kind of stuff than are their Western counterparts.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/14/2006 12:02 Comments || Top||

#6  thamks Dan.
Posted by: RD || 02/14/2006 12:37 Comments || Top||

#7  Ibn Wahab was a stone nutter. Even the other nuts at the time couldn't stomach his hateful crap. He even got dissed by Sir Richard Burton, IIRC...
Posted by: mojo || 02/14/2006 16:05 Comments || Top||


Bulgaria sez NATO might attack Iran, will join in if it does
Bulgaria as a NATO member will join a possible strike on Iran if the Alliance is accredited to launch the attack, Bulgarian Defense Minister Veselin Bliznakov said on Monday.

Talking to a local TV channel, Bliznakov said that the U.S.-led NATO might attack Iran aiming at stopping it from developing nuclear weapons.

"This might happen if the situation becomes really complicated," commented the minister.

Bulgaria maintains really good relations with the countries from the Arab world, underlined Bliznakov, but Bulgaria also supports the European standpoint on the "Iran issue", which demands Iran's transparency in the domain of nuclear technology, self-control and guarantees of not developing a nuclear weapon.

However, the minister said, there are still not enough guarantees made by the Iranian authorities.

The U.S. military are drawing up a plan for attack on Iran with an aim to stop it from developing nuclear weapons, in case diplomatic efforts fail, unveiled the British "Sunday Telegraph" on Feb. 12.

The Central Command and Strategic Command planners were "identifying targets, assessing weapon-loads and working on logistics for an operation," the newspaper reported.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/14/2006 01:36 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [580 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Does anyone else find this odd? Why would the Iran situation end up as a NATO operation?

I would presume that this will be a coalition of countries providing whatever they can bring to the table, even if it's only a public declaration of support. I would think that no one will be judged by their material contribution, but for their common sense and stalwart stance against insane people acquiring nuclear weapons. Only cowards and mercenary shills and other, similarly, rabid dogs would disagree, as far as I can see.
Posted by: Snaish Flaving9011 || 02/14/2006 7:29 Comments || Top||

#2  Does anyone else find this odd? Why would the Iran situation end up as a NATO operation?

Because for one brief, shining moment, everyone came to their senses and realized Iran was a threat to all NATO countries? Hey, stop laughing! It could happen.
Posted by: SteveS || 02/14/2006 11:02 Comments || Top||

#3  Because for one brief, shining moment, everyone came to their senses and realized Iran was a threat to all NATO countries?

I'm pretty sure France rejoined NATO to keep things like that from happening.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 02/14/2006 11:04 Comments || Top||

#4  The intervention is probably easier to sell in Bulgaria if a treaty obligation can be cited. Otherwise, they'd have to get authorization from their legislature the same as President Bush did in the run-up to Iraq.

Chalk it up to the rule of law, which in that area of the world should be encouraged and applauded.
Posted by: Ptah || 02/14/2006 11:04 Comments || Top||

#5  Why? Because Bulgaria was under Ottoman rule for 500 years and was liberated less than 130 years ago. Bulgarian memories of muslim rule/memace are fresher than our civil war, and it's one they don't want to repeat.
Posted by: ed || 02/14/2006 11:29 Comments || Top||

#6  Maybe Europe is finally awakening to the danger and the realization that they had better stand together. Standing together with the US is even more promising.
Posted by: wxjames || 02/14/2006 12:15 Comments || Top||

#7  Robert Crawford

Hey, good stiletto work there.
Posted by: RD || 02/14/2006 12:45 Comments || Top||

#8  Perhaps Bulgaria would deliver the Ricin Bumpershoot to Mahdi Mahmoud.
Posted by: doc || 02/14/2006 12:49 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Lodi trial set to begin
Thirty-five miles south of the state capital, this quiet agricultural community best known for its annual grape festival and local wines has waited nine months to learn whether it also has been a home for terrorists.

The trial is scheduled to begin Tuesday for a father and son who were among four members of the region’s Pakistani community arrested after a nearly three-year federal probe.

It is expected to provide answers to Lodi residents who have worried about whether their town of 62,000 in the heart of California’s Central Valley harbored a network of terrorists.

“Everyone was wondering, is there a terrorist cell?” Lodi Mayor Susan Hitchcock said.

Two local imams were deported to Pakistan over immigration violations, leaving prosecutors to focus on a local ice cream vendor and his son. They are charged with lying to federal investigators about the younger man’s suspected attendance at an al-Qaida training camp and whether he was planning attacks inside the U.S.

“I would imagine most people would like there to be more to the case than lying,” Hitchcock said. “But that’s not to minimize the fact that the younger man (allegedly) attended a terrorist training camp with an eye to harming American citizens.”

Umer Hayat, 48, is charged with two counts of making false statements to FBI agents about his son attending a terrorist training camp in Pakistan and faces eight years in prison if convicted.

His 23-year-old son, Hamid, is charged with three counts of making false statements to the FBI about attending the camp. The son also is charged with providing material support to terrorists. If convicted, he faces up to 31 years in prison.

Jury selection is scheduled to begin Tuesday in U.S. District Court in Sacramento.

The trial also is expected to show how the Lodi arrests fit into the federal government’s efforts to track down suspected terrorists on U.S. soil since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

Nationwide, 407 people have been charged with domestic and foreign terrorism-related crimes since then, according to the U.S. Department of Justice. Of those, 228 have been convicted or pleaded guilty.

There were 21 convictions in jury trials and 19 pleas last year, including serial bomber Eric Rudolph and confessed al-Qaida conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui, who is now on trial in Virginia.

Federal investigators began examining the Pakistani community in and around Lodi shortly after the 2001 terror attacks. About 2,500 people of Pakistani descent call the area home, most descendants of laborers who began arriving in the early 1900s to work in the area’s orchards and packing plants.

A government informant infiltrated the area’s Muslim community, and by August 2002 had the first recorded conversation with Hamid Hayat. It is among about 1,000 hours of recordings turned over to defense lawyers.

The informant, believed to be a few years older than the younger Hayat, soon became so close to the family that he slept some nights in the Hayat’s modest home.

In early 2003, investigators began focusing greater attention on Hamid Hayat, who was born in the U.S. but speaks little English. He spent half his life attending school and staying with relatives in Pakistan.

He had held only marginal jobs by the time he turned 22, most recently working part-time at a fruit-packing plant.

He left for Pakistan in April 2003, first attending a religious school operated by a relative in the Pakistani city of Rawalpindi. Between October 2003 and November 2004, he also attended an al-Qaida training camp outside the city, according to the federal indictment.

The informant recorded Hamid Hayat in March and April 2003 when he was in the United States and again after Hayat arrived in Pakistan. The younger Hayat said he had been accepted at a camp that provided training in weapons and explosives and hand-to-hand combat, according to the indictment.

He attempted to return to the U.S. in May 2005, but his flight was diverted to Japan after his name surfaced on the federal government’s “no fly” list. He was allowed to continue home but was questioned by federal authorities after he returned to Lodi.

Prosecutors say Hamid Hayat failed a lie-detector test and admitted attending one terrorist camp for three days in 2000 and a second for three to six months in 2003 and 2004. They also say he described the location and layout of the second camp.

Further, FBI agents say they found a book titled “Virtues of Jihad” during a search of his bedroom.

Prosecutors claim Hamid Hayat returned to America last year determined to attack targets in the U.S., including hospitals and supermarkets. FBI agents arrested the father and son after questioning at the Sacramento FBI office in June.

The Hayat family tells a different story. In interviews and court testimony, family members say Hamid Hayat was a rootless young man who so lacked direction and ambition that he was sent back to Pakistan in 2003 to find purpose and a wife. By the time he flew back to the United States in 2005, the young man was married and arranging to bring his new wife home.

Umer Hayat’s brother, Umer Khatab, told a reporter last week in front of the family’s home that he couldn’t comment on the charges or the pending trial.

The Hayats will be tried together but with separate juries because prosecutors say their confessions implicate each other in lying to FBI agents.

Defense attorneys say their clients were pressured by investigators and should have had attorneys and interpreters present when they confessed.

“When Umer Hayat told the FBI on several occasions that he did not know of any terrorist training camps and his son did not attend any terrorist training camps, those were true statements,” Umer Hayat’s attorney, Johnny Griffin III, said Monday. “Concerning additional statements he made, we will demonstrate to the jury the circumstances under which those statements were made and why they were made.”

A mound of documents and recordings provided by prosecutors in recent days contain no smoking gun to prove otherwise, Griffin said.

In Lodi, several residents say the town has returned to a normal pace in the nine months since the arrests. They said they plan to monitor the court proceedings carefully to see what evidence the government presents.

“The neighborhood’s the same. It’s all peaceful again,” said Karina Murillo, who has lived steps away from the Hayats for two years, in a home rented from the Hayat family. “It’s hard for us to believe because we’ve known them. We never saw anything suspicious or anything until the FBI showed up.”
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/14/2006 01:48 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [300 views] Top|| File under:


India-Pakistan
Two more die in Lahore cartoon clash
Pakistani security guards have shot dead two protesters in Lahore during unrest over Western newspaper cartoons satirising the Prophet Muhammad. The shots were fired by guards at a bank as crowds attacked Western targets, including fast-food outlets.

The shootings in Lahore took place outside the Metropolitan bank. Reports say crowds tried to set fire to the building housing the bank. Police also fired tear gas as crowds tried to set fire to outlets of McDonald's and KFC and placed burning tyres on some roads.

The Lahore deaths are the first but not the last in Pakistan since the controversy erupted.
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Indian, U.S. Carriers To Conduct Exercise at Sea
By VIVEK RAGHUVANSHI, NEW DELHI

Aircraft carriers from the navies of India and the United States will rendezvous off the coast of Sri Lanka on Feb. 14 for passage exercises.
Indian Defence Ministry officials said the exercise between India’s INS Viraat and the USS Ronald Reagan was decided on quickly and comes ahead of U.S. President George W. Bush’s visit to India later this year.
Exercises off the coast of Goa, India, last year between the Indian Navy and a U.S. carrier group led by the aircraft carrier Nimitz took months of planning, officials said.
The Viraat, which is en route to its homeport Mumbai from Visakapatnam in southern India, will lead a group of seven warships from the Indian’ Navy’s western fleet in the exercises with the Reagan.
India and the United States have held several exercises in air, on land and at sea since Washington lifted sanctions against New Delhi in September 2001.
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#1  SWEET!
Posted by: mmurray821 || 02/14/2006 16:57 Comments || Top||

#2  Navy plans major Pacific exercises in summer
Following the directions of the recently released defense review to shift its focus westward, the Navy plans to hold a series of major exercises involving four different aircraft carriers in the Pacific this summer, the Pacific Fleet commander said Tuesday.
“This summer we will see significant activity, including multiple carriers,” Adm. Gary Roughead told an Asian Society luncheon.

Roughead said it has been at least 10 years since four carriers have operated in the Pacific Ocean at one time.

One of the carriers that will be involved in the summer exercises will be the San Diego-based Ronald Reagan. Another will come from the Atlantic Fleet, perhaps the first time since the Vietnam War that an East Coast carrier will have operated in the western Pacific, Roughead's spokesman, Navy Capt. Matt Brown, said.

The San Diego-based hospital ship Mercy also will be deploying to the western Pacific this summer, to repeat the well-received humanitarian assistance it provided following the destructive December 2004 earthquake and tsunami, Roughead said.

Brown said the exercises will start in June in the western Pacific with three carrier strike groups, including the Reagan, the Japan-based Kitty Hawk and another Pacific-based carrier. A carrier strike group has at least three warships, an attack submarine and a support ship.

In July, at least two U.S. carrier groups will participate in the “Pacific Rim” exercises, the large multi-national naval maneuvers held near the Hawaiian Islands every two years. Ships from Australia, Chile, Japan, South Korea, Peru and perhaps other nations will take part, Brown said.

The summer's activities will conclude with another western Pacific exercise in August, with the Atlantic Fleet carrier participating, he said.

Roughead said the increased activity was in keeping with the directions from the Quadrennial Defense Review, officially released Feb. 6.

The review said the Navy “will have greater presence in the Pacific Ocean, consistent with the global shift of trade and transport.”

Although the QDR noted that “China has the greatest potential to compete militarily with the United States,” Roughead said he did not consider China “a threat.”

In assessing possible threats, the admiral said, military planners look at a nation's capabilities and intent.

“There is no question” that the Chinese Navy is modernizing and expanding, but its intent “is more of a mystery,” Roughead said.

The Pacific Fleet is committed to increasing its friendly contact with the Chinese Navy, but also is increasing its capabilities to counter any challenge, he said.
Posted by: Frank G || 02/14/2006 18:04 Comments || Top||

#3  Sounds like the much awaited Operation Nari

Memo to Nari (wherever that is): Yer screwed.
Posted by: Zenster || 02/14/2006 19:42 Comments || Top||

#4  HHHHHmmmmmmm, its the Navy's ambition that all of its major warships, current + future, possess some form of GMD/BMD capability. Since the ENTERPRISE is the Navy's oldest nuke carrier, wouldn't surprise me a bit iff she was selected to be "Testing/Training Carrier" for the Navy's sea-borne UAVS and other New Technologies [Arsenal Ship?]. GMD/BMD, Lasers and UAV min-robots for Navy TacAir???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 02/14/2006 22:37 Comments || Top||

#5  Wonder if they're gaming carrier-on-carrier battles. There hasn't been a real carrier vs. carrier battle since the Great Marianas Turkey Shoot (well, Cape Engano counts, sort of, but the Japanese had no aircraft to speak of in that one), and we're a far way away from the days of SB2Cs and TBFs and 40mm Bofors.
Posted by: Mike || 02/14/2006 22:38 Comments || Top||

#6  GO USA!! Top GUN!!
Posted by: Thramp Glairt4617 || 02/14/2006 22:40 Comments || Top||

#7  The Navy is a bit sensitive about UAV's. The flight distances (carrier to operational area) are much greater than ground based, and UAV aireal refueling really hasn't caught on just yet.
Posted by: Besoeker || 02/14/2006 22:42 Comments || Top||

#8  POint of interest: since the navy retired the Intruders several years ago, and never followed through with the KS-3, organic tanker assets are limited to S-3s (and lawn darts) w/ buddy stores. since the Hornet never had long legs and the 'super dart' (not-so-snarky comment: stop by your local library and check out 'The Pentagon Paradox" for an eye opening expose' on the F/A 18) is only a bit better in the mileage department, the range issue for UAVs really isn't the issue. Both the USN and the USAF are testing UAVS built by Boeing and Northrop Grumman. the NGC bird has demonstrated arrested landings (field type) and the Boeing UAV has demonstrated IFR, boom and probe style, not the navy's basket and probe. and hands off landing capability has been around for several years for the navy's manned aircraft; right now getting all the electronic bits to play is the driver, not the flying qualities. expect to see operational uavs working from ships within 5 yrs (or less).
Posted by: USN Ret. || 02/14/2006 23:26 Comments || Top||

#9  What I'm anxiously awaiting are the UMV's. Unmanned Maritime Vehicles. Think of the Marines that could be harvested for other duties, and no polluting garbage off the fan tail.
Posted by: Besoeker || 02/14/2006 23:33 Comments || Top||

#10  like the Israeli's 'death shark' only bigger?
Posted by: USN Ret. || 02/14/2006 23:38 Comments || Top||


4 militants killed in Kashmir
Four suspected militants have been shot dead by security forces in Indian Kashmir, the police said on Monday. Two militants died in a lengthy gunbattle on Monday in Yaripora village in southern Anantnag district of Indian-administered Kashmir, a police official said. Both were members of the hardline militant Lashkar-e-Taiba group, he said.

In separate incidents, two unidentified militants were killed in attacks by security troops in northern Baramulla and Kupwara districts late Sunday, the official said. One militant died in an ambush in Sumblar village in Baramulla district, while the other was gunned down while hiding in a house in Kupwara district. Violence in Indian Kashmir continues despite a slow-moving peace process between India and Pakistan, who have fought two of their three wars over the disputed region.
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Protesters go berserk in Peshawar
Headline is from the original Pak Daily Times article...
Police on Monday arrested 18 protesters on Monday after thousands of students attacked public and private property and burned several shops here to protest the publication of caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad (PTUI peace be upon him) in some European countries. The police tear-gassed around 5,000 enraged students who pulled down dozens of signboards of a Norwegian cellular firm. The demonstration was the biggest in the city since the cartoons, considered blasphemous by Muslims, were reprinted in some Western newspapers. “We stayed away because the issue is very sensitive and any attempt to stop these people from expressing themselves against the issue will aggravate the situation,” a senior police official told Daily Times on condition of anonymity.
Either that or you stayed away because you're incompetents who're great at beating the hell out of one or two bad guyz, but not so good at controlling howling mobs or bad guyz with guns...
Norwegian firm Telenor’s property was the obvious target of the demonstrators who pulled down all promotional signboards with the Telenor logo and messages from shops, police and eyewitnesses said.
Danes, Norwegians, Samoans, they're all pretty much the same from a Peshawar perspective...
The protestors became unruly after they were barred from marching towards Governor’s House. “They then headed towards the Edwards College and threw stones at the recently constructed portion of the historical Edwards College,” eyewitnesses said. Besides inflicting damage to the college building, a number of college students also suffered injuries, a senior college teacher said.
Severe strain from all that eye-rolling, no doubt. Rawness of the throat from howling. Shoulder strain from waving their little student fisties at the skies. That sort of thing...
Later, the protestors attacked the Peshawar Press Club smashing its windowpanes, damaging the club’s reception and offices of the president and general-secretary, the club said in a statement. “Police contingent remained silent spectators during the attack,” the club management said.
"More donuts, Constable Mahmoud?"
"Why, yes, thank you, Officer Ahmed!"
The students, also joined by members of the general public, then divided themselves into several small groups with each group containing a thousand demonstrators and took to different streets in the cantonment area. “One group reached Sadder bazaar at around 10.30am and began smashing windowpanes of several shops without any attempt from police to protect public property from being attacked,” Muhammad Noor, a shopkeeper who had pulled down the shutter, said. “Not a single policeman tried to stop the mob, which targeted every public installation including traffic signals and streetlights,” he said.
"Tea?"
"Yes, thank you!... Duck!"
"Perhaps we should move couple blocks east?"
"Good idea."
The students were joined by the Mobile Dealers Association of Bilour Plaza and later by every one present at the venue and an organised campaign was then launched against the signboards of Telenor.
"Yarrrr! Kill the billboards!"
Police started firing teargas shells after more than two dozens of the signboards were razed to the ground and torched. Police arrested 18 protesters but it was not clear what charges they were booked under.
"Rioting" not being an indictable offense in Pakland, apparently. Nor destruction of property. Now, if they'd bruised a Koran, that'd be different...
Meanwhile, protesters set fire to a shop selling products by Telenor in Attock, Reuters quoted Norway’s largest telecom company spokesman as saying.
Arson's not an indictable offense, either...
“On Sunday an outlet in Attock selling Telenor products was set on fire,” Telenor spokesman Espen Tuman Johnsn said. “There are some SMSs going around urging people to boycott Danish and Norwegian goods in general and some about Telenor in particular,” he said. Johnson said the boycott campaign had had little impact on Telenor’s operations in Pakistan. Telenor’s fully owned Pakistan subsidiary has around a seven percent market share and about 1.2 million subscribers. Telenor has 11 Norwegian nationals working in Pakistan but said it had no plans to pull any of them out of the country.
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#1  Short trip.
Posted by: .com || 02/14/2006 1:17 Comments || Top||

#2  I protest. Berserk is a Viking specialty.
Posted by: Flick Flailet8178 || 02/14/2006 4:10 Comments || Top||

#3  They strip naked and gnaw on their shields?
Posted by: gromgoru || 02/14/2006 5:35 Comments || Top||

#4  I thought historical berserkers were actually shock troops high on some kind of mushrooms-based drug? Theses are not berserkers, they are rioting primitives from a culture unable to produce anything of value.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 02/14/2006 6:13 Comments || Top||

#5  More and more I keep asking why corporations, when targetted by such ruffians, don't themselves hire some hard boyz to play ball with the baddies?

Think about it. For $20,000, not only would a few hundred of these recalcitrants be nursing broken knees and arms, but nobody would ever mess with the company again.

"Plausible deniability"
Posted by: Anonymoose || 02/14/2006 11:28 Comments || Top||

#6  Etymology of 'assassin'.
Posted by: DMFD || 02/14/2006 23:13 Comments || Top||


Massuris return to Dera Bugti
A second batch of Massuri tribesmen returned to their homes in the Bekar region of Dera Bugti district on Monday, according to APP. A total of 67 families, comprised of 334 people made their way back to their hometown. On their arrival in Bekar, the displaced tribesmen thanked the present government as well as President Pervez Musharraf for their help and support.

Security agencies have arrested a terrorist from Karachi, on the basis of information obtained from three members of the Balochistan Liberation Army (BLA) who were arrested from Quetta. The BLA members have also made startling revelations regarding the seperatist movement in Balochistan and foreign assistance to influential Baloch leaders.
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Iraq
10 Iraqis killed in Baghdad
A suicide bomber blew himself up Monday after joining a line of Iraqis waiting for government checks in a mostly Shiite district of Baghdad, killing 10 people and wounding about 40 — including women and children.

The attack occurred as more than 70 people lined up at a bank to receive government checks to compensate for incomplete food rations. Police said the bomber — who wore an explosives belt — stepped into the line and detonated his explosives as security guards were searching people before letting them in.

Ten people were killed and at least 40 wounded, Interior Ministry spokesman Maj. Falah al-Mohammedawi said. The wounded included three children and nine women, police said.

Late Monday, new television footage showed two hostage German engineers surrounded by masked gunmen. Al-Arabiya TV did not air audio from the tape, but said the kidnappers warned the German government it was the "last chance" to meet their demands or the men would be killed.

Thomas Nitschke and Rene Braeunlich were seized last month in Beiji, 115 miles north of Baghdad. No new demands were made, and the kidnappers did not set a deadline, the TV station said. In an earlier tape, the previously unknown Tawhid and Sunnah group called for Germany to cut ties with the U.S.-backed Iraqi government.

German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier told reporters in Jerusalem the tape was "once again shocking evidence of human humiliation" and said the Berlin government "will continue our efforts to bring the two of them to safety as quickly as possible."

The U.S. military said Monday that American and Iraqi soldiers killed one insurgent and arrested 16 others in raids around the city of Muqdadiyah, northeast of Baghdad. The Sunday night raids involved units from the U.S. 4th Infantry Division and the 101st Airborne Division.

One
Iraq soldier was slightly injured in the firefight in which the insurgent was killed, the military said.

Violence is continuing in Iraq as political leaders try to form a new government to include all sectarian and ethnic communities, a move the U.S. hopes will help calm the Sunni-led insurgency so American and other foreign troops can begin heading home.

On Sunday, Iraq's leading Shiite bloc picked Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari for another term, a major step toward forming a government. But Western diplomats cautioned the process of finalizing a new government has weeks if not months to go.

In a sign of the political difficulties ahead, Khalaf al-Ilyan, a senior official of a major Sunni Arab party, criticized al-Jaafari, calling his administration "the worst Iraq has so far experienced" because it failed to curb alleged human rights abuses by Shiite-led security services.

In addition to those slain in the suicide bombing Monday, at least 14 other people were killed nationwide.

Gunmen killed three brothers and two of their sons in Baqouba, 35 miles northeast of Baghdad, police said. All five were members of the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, the country's leading Shiite political party.

A roadside bomb attack in Iskandariyah, 30 miles south of Baghdad, killed two policemen, police said. Gunmen also shot dead a policeman protecting electric facilities near a hospital in Baghdad's Sadr City, police said.

In Ramadi, a city west of the capital, insurgents killed a police colonel as he drove to work, police said. Another police colonel was shot and killed as he was driving home in Baghdad's notorious Dora district, officials said.

Gunmen also killed an Oil Ministry employee as he was driving in western Baghdad and another man in Karmah, 50 miles west of Baghdad, police said. And police found the body of a man with a bullet in his head in a Sunni Arab part of west Baghdad.

Three masked gunmen stormed into a restaurant in Fallujah, another city west of Baghdad, and shot dead a policeman, the local hospital reported.

Meanwhile, a prominent Shiite cleric, Grand Ayatollah Mohammed al-Yaqoubi, called for a demonstration Tuesday in front of the British Consulate in the southern city of Basra to protest alleged abuse of Iraqi youths by British soldiers.

Video images first reported by the News of the World, a Sunday newspaper, appeared to show soldiers dragging several young Iraqis into a compound and beating them with fists and batons. The newspaper said the video was filmed in southern Iraq by a corporal two years ago. It did not name the soldier or the unit involved.

British military police said Monday they had arrested one man in their investigation of a video that appeared to show soldiers abusing prisoners in Iraq.

An Associated Press photographer who witnessed the demonstration that preceded the alleged beatings said it took place in Amarah, capital of Maysan province 180 miles southeast of Baghdad. Provincial Gov. Adel Mahudar confirmed the demonstration occurred near his office.
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More teevee time for Iraq kidnappers
Late Monday, the Arab satellite TV station Al Arabiya broadcast footage of two German hostages seized last month in the industrial city of Beiji, 240 kilometres north of Baghdad. The tape showed the two German engineers — Thomas Nitschke and Rene Braeunlich — surrounded by masked gunmen. The station did not broadcast audio but said the kidnappers warned the German government that this was the "last chance" to meet its demands or the hostages would be slain. No new demands were given and the kidnappers did not set a deadline, the station said.

In an earlier tape, the previously unknown Tawhid and Sunnah group demanded that Germany cut all ties with the US-backed Iraqi government. The tape was aired three days after a Kuwaiti television Al Rai stationed aired footage showing kidnapped American journalist Jill Carroll, who was seized January 7 in Baghdad. The station said the kidnappers set a deadline of February 26 for their demands to be met or Carroll would be killed.
Posted by: Fred || 02/14/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [308 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Lesson shoulda-been-learned: don't pay off kidnappers, or you set up your people for repeats. Sort of like: don't spend years negotiating with countries that openly state they won't abide by the result. I do hope Faulein Merkel rapidly climbs this learning curve.
Posted by: trailing wife || 02/14/2006 7:45 Comments || Top||

#2  If these stations would get off of their duffs, they'd realize that they have a goldmine of potential reality-TV hits. Do you think that Donald Trump would be willing to lend his hair to Al-Zarqawi for a season?
Posted by: Perfesser || 02/14/2006 12:33 Comments || Top||


Suicide bomber kills 10 Iraqis in eastern Baghdad
A suicide bomber struck Iraqis lined up Monday to receive government ration payments, killing 10 other people and wounding about 40 — including women and children. At least 14 other people were killed in other violence nationwide. The suicide attack occurred in a mostly Shiite Muslim eastern district of Baghdad as more than 70 people lined up at a bank to receive government checks to compensate for incomplete food rations. Police said the bomber joined the line and detonated an explosive belt as security guards were searching people before allowing them to enter the bank. Ten people were killed and at least 40 wounded, interior ministry spokesman, Maj. Falah Mohammedawi said. The wounded included three children and nine women, police said.
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#1  attacking civilians lined up to get ration payments - such brave Jihadis! Feh.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 02/14/2006 11:20 Comments || Top||


The Mayor of Tall 'Afar Salutes the 3rd ACR
from Greyhawk. It needs no comments I could add. The 3rd ACR is rotating home.
Via email from a family member, a letter from the Mayor of Tall 'Afar, Iraq to the men and women of the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment and their families.

In the Name of God the Compassionate and Merciful

To the Courageous Men and Women of the 3d Armored Cavalry Regiment, who have changed the city of Tall’ Afar from a ghost town, in which terrorists spread death and destruction, to a secure city flourishing with life.

To the lion-hearts who liberated our city from the grasp of terrorists who were beheading men, women and children in the streets for many months.

To those who spread smiles on the faces of our children, and gave us restored hope, through their personal sacrifice and brave fighting, and gave new life to the city after hopelessness darkened our days, and stole our confidence in our ability to reestablish our city.

Our city was the main base of operations for Abu Mousab Al Zarqawi. The city was completely held hostage in the hands of his henchmen. Our schools, governmental services, businesses and offices were closed. Our streets were silent, and no one dared to walk them. Our people were barricaded in their homes out of fear; death awaited them around every corner. Terrorists occupied and controlled the only hospital in the city. Their savagery reached such a level that they stuffed the corpses of children with explosives and tossed them into the streets in order to kill grieving parents attempting to retrieve the bodies of their young. This was the situation of our city until God prepared and delivered unto them the courageous soldiers of the 3d Armored Cavalry Regiment, who liberated this city, ridding it of Zarqawi’s followers after harsh fighting, killing many terrorists, and forcing the remaining butchers to flee the city like rats to the surrounding areas, where the bravery of other 3d ACR soldiers in Sinjar, Rabiah, Zumar and Avgani finally destroyed them.

I have met many soldiers of the 3d Armored Cavalry Regiment; they are not only courageous men and women, but avenging angels sent by The God Himself to fight the evil of terrorism.

The leaders of this Regiment; COL McMaster, COL Armstrong, LTC Hickey, LTC Gibson, and LTC Reilly embody courage, strength, vision and wisdom. Officers and soldiers alike bristle with the confidence and character of knights in a bygone era. The mission they have accomplished, by means of a unique military operation, stands among the finest military feats to date in Operation Iraqi Freedom, and truly deserves to be studied in military science. This military operation was clean, with little collateral damage, despite the ferocity of the enemy. With the skill and precision of surgeons they dealt with the terrorist cancers in the city without causing unnecessary damage.

God bless this brave Regiment; God bless the families who dedicated these brave men and women. From the bottom of our hearts we thank the families. They have given us something we will never forget. To the families of those who have given their holy blood for our land, we all bow to you in reverence and to the souls of your loved ones. Their sacrifice was not in vain. They are not dead, but alive, and their souls hovering around us every second of every minute. They will never be forgotten for giving their precious lives. They have sacrificed that which is most valuable. We see them in the smile of every child, and in every flower growing in this land. Let America, their families, and the world be proud of their sacrifice for humanity and life.

Finally, no matter how much I write or speak about this brave Regiment, I haven’t the words to describe the courage of its officers and soldiers. I pray to God to grant happiness and health to these legendary heroes and their brave families.

NAJIM ABDULLAH ABID AL-JIBOURI
Mayor of Tall ‘Afar, Ninewa, Iraq
Posted by: lotp || 02/14/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [299 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I am moved by this display of Gratitude.
Mr. Mayor, if you honor these men, sieze your freedom, love your children and live happy, peaceful lives.
Posted by: Robjack || 02/14/2006 0:26 Comments || Top||

#2  Powerline posted this as well - hopefully it gets out of the MSM blockade! Thks LOTP
Posted by: Frank G || 02/14/2006 0:51 Comments || Top||

#3  Great letter - and a classic of the Arab style of evoking visuals.

Thank You, Mayor!

Great post, lotp - Thx!
Posted by: .com || 02/14/2006 1:00 Comments || Top||

#4  Well, I've heard nothing of this on the Beeb.. Good on the people of Tal 'Afar.. Good on the 3rd ACR and its Iraqi back-up.. I hope we'll get a book out of this one day.. it will make an interesting read.. I think there's an awful lot to come about the behaviour of Zarqawi's mob.
Posted by: Howard UK || 02/14/2006 3:59 Comments || Top||

#5  Wow. That is truly touching and gracious. I am stunned as I've never seen the like of this from any Arab source. Yes, I've lived in the Middle East - a little over 10 yrs in Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, and the UAE. I will email the link out to many people, as I hope everyone will do, as this needs world-wide distribution. My experience over there makes me wonder if we should fear for the safety of the Tal Afar mayor and his family, somewhat? Again, wow.
Posted by: Snaish Flaving9011 || 02/14/2006 7:19 Comments || Top||

#6  Al-Jibouri is obviously not a graduate of the Ray Nagin school of mayorly gratitude. Good on him!
Posted by: Besoeker || 02/14/2006 8:12 Comments || Top||

#7  And we salute you Mr. Mayor! Make the most of your new freedom and we will be proud.
Posted by: mmurray821 || 02/14/2006 11:35 Comments || Top||

#8  As much as I may like this, do we have real verification of this?
Posted by: Glolugum Unotle4665 || 02/14/2006 13:20 Comments || Top||

#9  The 3rd ACR has been reassigned to Fort Carson, here in Colorado Springs. The troops began arriving home three days ago. The entire regiment will be home in a couple of weeks. The city has made plans for a hero's welcome.

As for the authenticity of the letter, I can't vouch for it, but a couple of 3ACR folks said they were given a send-off by the local inhabitants that was "unusual". Colorado Springs is seriously considering adding Tal'Afar to its list of "sister-cities".
Posted by: Old Patriot || 02/14/2006 14:23 Comments || Top||

#10  Greyhawk vouches for it. As one of the pre-eminent milbloggers, himself active duty with service in Iraq recently, he's got all the creds he needs with me.
Posted by: lotp || 02/14/2006 15:47 Comments || Top||

#11  On 1/28/06, one day after the letter was written, three Iraqis were killed and the Mayor of Tal Afar, Najim Abdullah, was wounded as rebel gunmen stormed the mayors office. Najim was wounded when rebels fired a series of four mortar rounds into his office.

Bahrain Tribune Daily Newspaper
Posted by: Anonymoose || 02/14/2006 18:49 Comments || Top||

#12  Correction: the mayor was wounded by the mortar attack, the others died in separate incidents.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 02/14/2006 18:53 Comments || Top||

#13  Shit. Snaish was right.

Heal and protect this guy - this vector of sanity must be preserved.
Posted by: .com || 02/14/2006 22:47 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
'3rd intifada on the way'
With Hamas now in power, the long-ruling Fatah party and its "military wing" Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades forced into the opposition, and Israel announcing it will soon withdraw from the West Bank, Palestinian terror leaders tell WorldNetDaily recent events here are leading them to launch what they call a third intifada – or violent confrontation – against Israel consisting of suicide bombings, rocket attacks against Jewish communities and "a few new surprises in our arsenal."

Some terror leaders, particularly from the Al Aqsa Brigades, whose associated Fatah party scored poorly in last month's parliamentary elections, say they are planning massive violence against Israeli civilians mostly to revolt against the new Hamas-controlled Palestinian government.

"The new intifada is only a question of time and this will be the hardest and the most dangerous one. It's just about timing until the order to blow up a new wave of attacks will be given," Abu Nasser, a senior Al Aqsa Brigades leader from the Balata refugee camp in northern Samaria told WorldNetDaily in an interview...
Posted by: Anonymoose || 02/14/2006 08:09 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [314 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Should this "third" intifada come to pass, the Israelis would do well to completely overrun the West Bank and Gaza, boot out all the Paleo residents, and annex the territory, never again to even mention the idea of a Paleo "state".
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 02/14/2006 10:56 Comments || Top||

#2  Overrun or not, the Israelis should no longer feel much restraint. The Palestinian people have spoken their will and thereby installed a government sworn to terrorism. Their elected representation is now declaring war. The gloves come off and military retaliation is in order. It should be swift, brutal and unhesitating. Like never before, the Palestinians have united in their desire for the destruction of Israel and that quest must be met with crushing defeat. With the cartoon incident in full flower, the mask is now off. Israel had best seize this opportunity while the world still comprehends what Islamist intentions hold in store for the infidels.
Posted by: Zenster || 02/14/2006 11:11 Comments || Top||

#3  Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades is attacking Israel because Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades lost to HAMAS.

And this makes sense,because????
Why not attack HAMAS.
I would think HAMAS is now the enemy of Aqsa.
Posted by: raptor || 02/14/2006 11:32 Comments || Top||

#4  3rd huh? It will work about as well as the first two and I think any restraint the Israelies felt before is now gone.

Good luck with that intifada thing....
Posted by: mmurray821 || 02/14/2006 11:33 Comments || Top||

#5  Heh, it's an Arab / Muzzy thingy, raptor. We wouldn't understand. ;-)
Posted by: .com || 02/14/2006 11:33 Comments || Top||

#6  Make that the fourth intifada ... the third intifada was launched in the US by the Press Corps against the present administration.
Posted by: doc || 02/14/2006 11:33 Comments || Top||

#7  3rd Intifada? Why not? The first two got them the West Bank and Gaza along with unaccountable billions of dollars. Additionally, Hamas ran on a platform of violence and no Peace. They won the election by a pretty clear amount. Who is surprised that they will continue in their ways? Their violence has been rewarded at every step. Their mission is being accomplished with acceptable losses.
Posted by: TomAnon || 02/14/2006 12:03 Comments || Top||

#8  When it starts I think Israel should deport the entire West Bank Muslim pop to Gaza. At a minimum the couple of border cities that are danger close to Israel proper. With the threat that more to follow if they don’t get control of themselves. In the end they will either all be moved to Gaza or a true peace treaty will be signed. You can’t have a compromise and peace until they realize the alternative is absolute destruction defeat.
Posted by: C-Low || 02/14/2006 12:15 Comments || Top||

#9  Exactly what I predicted.
Posted by: Ptah || 02/14/2006 12:41 Comments || Top||

#10  "The new intifada is only a matter of time..." and this surprises who?
Posted by: shellback || 02/14/2006 12:41 Comments || Top||

#11  abu nasser - all BS all the time

the refugee camp is essencially a suburb of Nablus -- no Paleo with any power would call it part of Samaria
Posted by: mhw || 02/14/2006 13:16 Comments || Top||

#12  Their mission is being accomplished with acceptable losses.

Which means it's time to make sure they experience unacceptable losses. I'm confident the IDF is up to such a task.
Posted by: Zenster || 02/14/2006 13:36 Comments || Top||

#13  One upside of Israel being out of Gaza is that it allows Israel to be a lot more indiscriminate with their military action. It's a touch harder to unleash on the bad guys when their all mixed up with the good guys. I've never been a big fan of Israeli withrawl from a political perspective. Militarily, I think Israel should draw the lines of statehood where they see fit whether that means withdrawing or advancing. Their security should be the paramount concern. As for the 3rd Intifada, hopefully Israel unleashes in a huge way.
Posted by: Intrinsicpilot || 02/14/2006 16:21 Comments || Top||

#14  "Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades is attacking Israel because Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades lost to HAMAS.

And this makes sense,because????
Why not attack HAMAS.
I would think HAMAS is now the enemy of Aqsa."

They may yet do that. But Hamas isnt in power yet, and theres going to be a precarious struggle (either a bureaucratic political struggle or a political one, but dont count on the latter) between the Hamas security forces and the old PA sec forces. AAMB may be wise to stay out of that, at least for the time being. Meanwhile by attacking Israel, they can show theyre just as tough hombres as Hamas, they can distance themselves from Abbas and the old guard Fatah leadership, and they can put Hamas in the difficult position of being pressed by Israel and the West to crack down on AAMB. All for the modest price of having a few of their less stable members boom themselves. Win - win. Unless of course the Israelis come after the leaders, which they might well do. Oh well, nothings perfect.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 02/14/2006 16:33 Comments || Top||

#15  that should be "or a military one"
Posted by: liberalhawk || 02/14/2006 16:34 Comments || Top||

#16  meet the new intifada......
same as the old intifada......

.......we won't get fooled again!

(with respects to The Who)
Posted by: Ebbeaque Elmutle9600 || 02/14/2006 16:41 Comments || Top||

#17  d'oh!
that Who homage was me.
someone stole my cookie!! bwahhhhhh

Anyway, seems to me, with a wall going up and separation in the works, Hamas is gonna have a sovereign "entity" to govern.

Any attacks coming from that sovereign "entity" is akin to one country attacking another. Israel certainly has the right -- and the duty -- to respond as if attacked by a country. No need to worry about civilian casualties. The gloves are off.
Posted by: PlanetDan || 02/14/2006 16:44 Comments || Top||

#18  another reason for AAMB to attack Israel. Gives Israel an excuse to cut off the territories further. Which tends to kill the Pal economy, such as it is. Which may kill off the Hamas govt.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 02/14/2006 16:47 Comments || Top||

#19  Will be fun seething in the dark with no power, water or food....
Posted by: Frank G || 02/14/2006 18:07 Comments || Top||

#20  Man, the second one isn't even out on DVD yet?
Posted by: Scott R || 02/14/2006 18:41 Comments || Top||

#21  Will be fun seething in the dark with no power, water or food....

Hokay, Frank, you asked for it. With apologies to Old Blue Eyes ...

Seething in the Dark

Seething in the dark, where the dune ends
We’re seething in the dark with my goon friends
We’re plotting on Down Under and all their beer
Night hurries by but still it isn’t dawn

Looking for the light of a new fuse
To blow up kindergartens, they accuse
And we can face the charges together
Seething in the dark

What – though ammo is old
What – this Semtex is resold
With them bombs can be flung

Hear this seethe of mine
Fumin’ all the time
Another grumble and we’re done

Looking for the light of a new fuse
To blow up kindergartens, they accuse
And we can face the charges together
Seething in the dark, seething in the dark
Seething in the dark


Posted by: Zenster || 02/14/2006 19:36 Comments || Top||

#22  I'm certain SHARON realized the PA will no longer be able to hide behind either Russia or the UNO - let HAMAS, and HEZBOLLAH, etc extremist groups destroy any real dream of a peaceful Palestinian State for the Palestinians.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 02/14/2006 22:42 Comments || Top||


A-Zahar rejects 'satanic' US aid
Hamas leader Mahmoud A-Zahar vowed Monday not to bow to American threats to cut aid, saying the movement did not need "satanic" US money.

A-Zahar also addressed Hamas' much-anticipated social and economic agenda, saying the group intended to fight corruption, eliminate the "tourism of nudity" and use education to promote a culture of resistance.

But, aware of the political realities in the Palestinian territories, Zahar said Hamas had no intention to force Islam on Palestinians or to settle scores with its rivals.

"Those who built their structure on the basis of the Quran...cannot budge because of promises from America or a dollar from Europe," Zahar told a Cairo conference. "I wish America would cut off its aid. We do not need this satanic money," he said.

Since Hamas' victory in last month's parliamentary elections, Western nations have threatened to cut off hundreds of millions of dollars in badly needed aid unless the group, which is responsible for dozens of suicide bombings that have killed hundreds of Israelis, transforms itself.

Hamas was expected to lead a new government.

"America and Europe tried to dry up the funding of the 'terrorist' Hamas that is spent on the families of the martyrs and the detainees, but it (Hamas) has only increased," he said. Such money comes from almsgiving, he said.

He argued that most of the outside aid money was eaten up by corruption under Fatah and lost funds could be made up by removing corrupt officials and turning to Arab donors.

He ruled out making compromises to keep the money coming.

"Recognizing the state of the Israeli enemy is not on the table," he said. "Our program is to liberate Palestine, all of Palestine," he said.

"The Qassam Brigades will continue to increase in numbers, supplies and weapons...until the liberation is completed," he said of the group's military wing. He added that Hamas can develop the capabilities of its missiles.

"Anyone who thinks the calm means giving in is mistaken. The calm is in preparation for a new round of resistance and victory," he said. "If the enemy has something to offer we will study it, but we will not abide by a truce that is for free."

Hamas abided by an Egyptian-brokered truce between the Palestinians and Israel, and has continued to forgo militant attacks beyond the agreement's expiration late last year.

He also again rejected the 1993 Oslo peace accords under which the Palestinians recognized Israel and set up the Palestinian Authority.

"We are entering (parliament) to eliminate any traces of Oslo," he said.

But Zahar called for making a distinction between bestowing legitimacy on Israel and recognizing the facts on the ground. He left the door open for possible future talks with Israel through a third party.

"Negotiations are not our goal," he said. "Negotiations are a means. If they realize the best interest of the Palestinian people, then we will find a thousand mediators...to negotiate," he said.
Posted by: tipper || 02/14/2006 04:32 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [442 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Hamas leader Mahmoud A-Zahar vowed Monday not to bow to American threats to cut aid, saying the movement did not need "satanic" US money."

Lol, I need to borrow your pills, Fred, I agree with Zahar...

Make it so.
Posted by: .com || 02/14/2006 4:39 Comments || Top||

#2  You're fired. No, I resign.
Posted by: Jake-the-Peg || 02/14/2006 7:02 Comments || Top||

#3  OK. Send the money to Israel instead, in the form of Hellfires.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 02/14/2006 7:52 Comments || Top||

#4  I wonder if the PA can exist without satanic electricity from Israel.
Posted by: mhw || 02/14/2006 8:01 Comments || Top||

#5  This is the GOOD type of "rejection" it puts dollars back into the pockets of US taxpayers. I hope it is contagious.
Posted by: Besoeker || 02/14/2006 8:08 Comments || Top||

#6  Excellent. Problem solved.
Posted by: Ol Dirty American || 02/14/2006 10:06 Comments || Top||

#7  Hamas leader Mahmoud A-Zahar vowed Monday not to bow to American threats to cut aid, saying the movement did not need "satanic" US money.

Fantastic! Cut them off then, as in NOW.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 02/14/2006 10:58 Comments || Top||

#8  Works for me. See ya, wouldn't want to be ya.
Posted by: mojo || 02/14/2006 11:29 Comments || Top||

#9  "He argued that most of the outside aid money was eaten up by corruption under Fatah and lost funds could be made up by removing corrupt officials and turning to Arab donors."
I think this would shock Jacques. Corruption by Arafat?
Posted by: plainslow || 02/14/2006 11:34 Comments || Top||

#10  eliminate the "tourism of nudity"

Hey, wait a minute!
Posted by: Zenster || 02/14/2006 12:02 Comments || Top||

#11  I have no need of Satanic money ... Now where did Suha leave the checkbook?
Posted by: doc || 02/14/2006 12:42 Comments || Top||

#12  Good, a lot of extra money that should be spent on Americans or protecting our country.
Posted by: bgrebel || 02/14/2006 16:24 Comments || Top||

#13  Uh-oh. It just occurred to me that A-Zahar is merely requesting the non "satanic" US money instead. Darn.
Posted by: Ol Dirty American || 02/14/2006 17:26 Comments || Top||

#14  This is money they shouldn't of been having in the first place, no biggie!

Let them buy their own bombs!
Posted by: Thramp Glairt4617 || 02/14/2006 22:41 Comments || Top||

#15  All American money is "satanic", lol.
Posted by: .com || 02/14/2006 22:49 Comments || Top||

#16  Do they know that EU money is 'satanic' too?
Posted by: DMFD || 02/14/2006 23:10 Comments || Top||

#17  I keep wondering if we should tell them what goes into the inks used for currency?

Nah, let 'em wonder / worry, lol.
Posted by: .com || 02/14/2006 23:12 Comments || Top||


Jordan: Defendants claim confessions extracted under duress
Four men standing trial at the State Security Court (SSC) accused of plotting to attack Americans in the Kingdom on Monday retracted their confessions claiming they were extracted under duress. The four defendants, Loui H., 25, Hamdi A., 23, Mohammad H., 24, and Mohammad O., 26, claim they were threatened by security forces into confessing to the plot. Two other defendants, Osama A. and Haitham A., are being tried in absentia on the same charges. One of the defendants, Mohammad O., said he was denied access to a lawyer during his interrogation.

According to the charge sheet, Loui H. decided to attack Americans in the Kingdom after attending religious classes in early 2005 in the Hitteen refugee camp, located between Amman and Zarqa. The prosecution claims he then proposed the idea to the rest of the defendants, who were all friends, and they agreed. The defendants at first decided to attack liquor stores and bars by placing cyanide on the doorknobs to kill people frequenting these premises, the charge sheet said. But the defendants were unable to find cyanide on the Jordanian market and instead decided to attack Americans using machineguns, the charge sheet added. Hamdi A. suggested killing Americans who frequented a hotel in the capital, “since he was employed there and it was easy for him to befriend these Americans and lure them outside the hotel where they would be killed by the rest of the group.” The defendants also suggested attacking bars in Amman and a bar in one of the major hotels in Aqaba, “since one of the defendants used to be an employee there and still owned an access card to that hotel,” said the charge sheet.

The men suggested naming themselves “Khatab Brigades” and purchased a machinegun to accomplish their alleged plans, according to the charge sheet. Some of them travelled to Saudi Arabia and received training from Osama A. and Haitham A., according to the charge sheet. However, the first four defendants were arrested in Jordan in September 2005 before being able to accomplish any of their alleged plans, according to the charge sheet.
Posted by: Fred || 02/14/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [304 views] Top|| File under:

#1  More people watching too much American television. Duress is illegal Stateside, but not over there, stupid wannabe terrorists.
Posted by: trailing wife || 02/14/2006 7:54 Comments || Top||

#2  ...confessions extracted under duress

And your point is?
Posted by: mojo || 02/14/2006 12:41 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Indonesia court gives death to terrorism suspect
An Indonesian court sentenced a man to death on Monday for killing eight people in attacks in the Moluccas islands that sparked fears of sectarian bloodshed in the region, local media reported. The court in the islands' main city of Ambon said that Assep Djaja and his accomplices had carried out what it said were terrorist attacks in two villages in the islands last year and in 2004. Four policemen guarding a Christian enclave surrounded by Muslim villages were killed in the attack last year. "What the defendant had done was sadistic and inhumane," Antara national agency quoted the court as saying in its ruling.

The Moluccas islands, 1,440 miles east of Jakarta, was the scene of vicious communal fighting between Muslims and Christians from 1999 to 2002 which left more than 5,000 dead. The conflict also drew Muslim militants from groups such as the al Qaeda-linked Jemaah Islamiah, a Southeast Asian network blamed for numerous bomb attacks across Indonesia. Since a 2002 truce between Muslim and Christian communities, sectarian battles have subsided on the islands although violence still sporadically erupts.
Posted by: Fred || 02/14/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [305 views] Top|| File under:

#1  sounds good - now do it
Posted by: Frank G || 02/14/2006 0:24 Comments || Top||

#2  Less talk - more neck stretching.
Posted by: Zenster || 02/14/2006 11:14 Comments || Top||

#3  That's ALLEGED terrorism suspect.
Posted by: Perfesser || 02/14/2006 12:20 Comments || Top||

#4  Neither alleged nor suspect, once he's been convicted.
Posted by: trailing wife || 02/14/2006 14:13 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Al-Qaeda entering Lebanon with Syrian compliance
Al Qaeda is trying to increase its presence in Lebanon and create a foothold in the country, the country’s acting Interior Minister Ahmad Fatfat told Asharq al Awsat Saturday.

In recent weeks, the Lebanese authorities have uncovered two al Qaeda groups and detained several foreigners, including Syrians, Palestinians and a Saudi. “We do not know the size of this activity but the issue is worrying us. I have the impression [al Qaeda] is trying to establish bases in Lebanon.”

Fatfat denied Lebanon was fertile grounds of extremist Islamic groups, such as al Qaeda, as had been mistakenly reported by news agencies following an interview he gave to the French newspaper Liberation. He did, however, admit that al Qaeda was secretly active in places “where there are suitable ideological current and social conditions (such as poverty).

The Interior Minister hinted Syria was allowing al Qaeda members to infiltrate into Lebanon and indicated Osama bin Laden’s group was coordinating its activity with the Palestinian pro- Syrian Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine- General Command. He revealed the PFLP-GC had fired rockets at Israel, under orders from al Qaeda and noted “there are several trends within al Qaeda”, one of which would be cooperating with the Syrian security services.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/14/2006 01:26 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [321 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Al Qaeda - the "rent-a-thug" service for the Muzzy world.
Posted by: HV || 02/14/2006 14:41 Comments || Top||


Iran starts enrichment work
Iran notched up the brinksmanship over its disputed nuclear programme Monday, abruptly postponing talks with Moscow on a plan to enrich Tehran's uranium on Russian territory to allay fears it is building an atomic weapon. Diplomats in Vienna, Austria, told the Associated Press, meanwhile, that Iran had started small-scale enrichment of uranium, a process that can produce fuel for an atomic bomb.

"Uranium gas has been fed into three machines," one senior diplomat said on condition of anonymity because he was not authorised to speak on the matter. Another diplomat confirmed that limited enrichment had begun at Iran's Natanz site. State-run Iranian television later reported that Alaeddin Boroujerdi, head of the national security and foreign relations committee in parliament, said the country began its peaceful nuclear enrichment activities Monday. Boroujerdi said inspectors from the Vienna-based International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) were present.
Posted by: Fred || 02/14/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [530 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "kick me, dammit, I like it"
Posted by: Frank G || 02/14/2006 0:19 Comments || Top||

#2  Heh, as if they ever stopped.
Posted by: .com || 02/14/2006 0:19 Comments || Top||

#3  The gauntlet is getting ready to be thrown down -the USA either accepts nuclear Iran, and by extens North Korea, etal., which in the long run also makes the NPT useless; or it does not. The USA = WORLD accepts the Islamic Extremists/
Radicals future GLOBAL CLAIPHATE, or does not. Its a given already that Dubya will be blamed for both new 9-11's inside America as well as Iran having the bomb = failing to prevent Iran from having the bomb, ala IFF AMERICA DOES NOT ATTACK AND WAGE WAR, AMERICA WILL BE ATTACKED AND WARRED AGAINST, NO MATTER WHAT POLICIES DUBYA ENACTS. FTLG, people, STAY ARMED AND READY!
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 02/14/2006 0:25 Comments || Top||

#4  Has anyone seen a good estimate of how many centrifuges they actually have? I've seen numbers from 20 (leaked by western intel services) to 20,000 (from anti-mullah expatriates). Natanz is supposed to be able to handle 20,000 centrifuges. Is that estimate based on floor space or the size of the electrical substation? Someone out there must be doing an open source analysis. Hell, with Google Earth and the brainpower here, we ought to be able to figure something out. I already figured out how much juice it takes to make a uranium bomb (posted here a couple of weeks ago) and was able to obtain a same order of magnitude answer on a calculator* on the Urenco site. If a bonehead like me can get in the ball park then maybe we can figure out how far Iran's gotten.

An aside: if government analysts are as lazy as business analysts, then it's no wonder that the data leaking out is so unreliable. When the dot com bubble burst, all of them were out to lunch. I don't think that a one of them got off their asses to check the production queues in Asia and Mexico. None of them were analyzing. 99% of them were just blowing smoke. Yet the information was widely available and was well known within the industry.

* Do the freakin Euros ever learn? Jeez, just give every 3rd rate dictator in the world a handy calculator so he can figure out exactly how much ore, electricity, and industrial plant he'll need to build his own bomb. Excuse me while I go build a bomb shelter in the back yard now.
Posted by: 11A5S || 02/14/2006 0:51 Comments || Top||

#5 
Cleanup on aisle 5.
Posted by: Master of Obvious || 02/14/2006 1:23 Comments || Top||

#6  Outing yerself, MoO?

LOL.
Posted by: .com || 02/14/2006 1:40 Comments || Top||

#7  Now THAT's cleaning up after yourself!
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 02/14/2006 12:27 Comments || Top||

#8  "Diplomats in Vienna...one senior diplomat said on condition of anonymity because he was not authorised to speak on the matter...Another diplomat confirmed..."

Well there ya have it...after all they're diplomats dammit! Not only that, they're European diplomats.
Posted by: DepotGuy || 02/14/2006 14:32 Comments || Top||

#9  I read an estimate somewhere that it would take something like two years to manufacture and test the 20,000 centrifuges. That was a best case, so it probably assumes they have sufficient precision machining equipment for mass production. That also probably assumes they have a quality control infrastructure and the kind of work environment conducive to efficient and low defect production. (Does that sound palusible?) But also that is the easiest part. There is A LOT more to it than that, like making it work as a system.
Posted by: HV || 02/14/2006 15:07 Comments || Top||

#10  Messing around with uranium hexaflouride gas is extremely dangerous. The gaseous diffusion plant at Oak Ridge was at one time the largest area under one roof in the world. This would be a HUGE facility. I don't remember how many centrifuges are in the plant at Oak Ridge but I don't think it's 20,00.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 02/14/2006 15:37 Comments || Top||

#11  Just for information.
The K-25 gaseous diffusion plant at Oak Ridge required 4000 stages. This plant was one-half mile long and six stories high and covered 43 acres. The production of a suitable barrier was the key to successful separation. The holes must be microscopic (approximately one-millionth of an inch in diameter) and uniform in size. The porosity must always be high to sustain high flow rates and the barrier must not react with the highly corrosive hexafluoride. Nickel and aluminum oxide were best suited for barrier materials. Diffusion equipment is large and consumes significant amounts of energy. The entire system must be leak free; no air can be allowed in and no uranium hexafluoride can be allowed out. By the spring of 1945, Oak Ridge had shipped approximately 132 lbs. of enriched uranium (approximately 90% U-235) to Los Alamos, New Mexico. This was used in "Little Boy", the bomb dropped on Hiroshima on August 6, 1945. The majority of fission weapons since that time have used plutonium. Uranium enrichment is currently used to produce fuel (3 to 4% U-235) for civilian nuclear reactors.

Posted by: Deacon Blues || 02/14/2006 15:43 Comments || Top||

#12  How much electricity did the Oak Ridge plant need? Is it possible to bury that kind of generating power?
Posted by: Snuns Thromp1484 || 02/14/2006 19:30 Comments || Top||

#13  As far as I know the ammount of electricity used is still classified. At least, I can't find any information on it. TVA supplied the electricity to Oak Ridge. There is a generating plant just up-stream that was built for the purpose. It's hydroelectric. I must say, however, the generator supplied more than just the K-25 plant, but I don't think it's feasable to build something that big underground.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 02/14/2006 19:56 Comments || Top||

#14  Great info, DB - Thx!
Posted by: .com || 02/14/2006 22:49 Comments || Top||

#15  Concur with DB. Something that enormous would produce significant MASINT...(measuring and signals intelligence). The larger the activity, the more difficult it is to effectively hide.
Posted by: Besoeker || 02/14/2006 22:53 Comments || Top||

#16  and protect.....
Posted by: Frank G || 02/14/2006 22:59 Comments || Top||



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